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Is the GOP a winner or loser?

What do Republicans have to gain, or lose, from blocking climate change legislation?

Posted by Washington Post Editor on November 2, 2009 10:58 AM
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MarieDevine Author Profile Page :
 

A Better Solution - A Different Direction

This climate change agreement cannot change the problem of climate change because they see the problem as CO2. NOVA had a program a number of years ago that if the sun and moon were a little closer, it would dramatically increase the C02 and you would almost be able to watch things grow, they would grow so fast. By reducing C02 it would decrease the growing capacity of the earth and we would die quickly from starvation at least.

It takes more polluting energy to create green technology and transport all the parts around the world. It would not reduce the cost of energy, it would only change who was paid for it. Most people, especially in a financial crisis will not be able to afford the new technologies. The plan is well-intentioned, but has no positive affect.

The surest, easiest, quickest, fairest, most beautiful and least expensive solution is to turn from the employment lifestyle that is destroying the air, land, water and food making the people and the earth diseased. We can solve the world problems at the same time we turn to a garden paradise lifestyle with trees, plants and pets that provide fresh food around us. It is the only sustainable solution. It will be an answer to the expected extinction of humanity and a joy in ending the oppression and stress of the employment lifestyle. It is a solution that ends the controversy. It obviously will work; the only question is, Are we ready to retire?
Marie-Devine-Divine-Way

 
sterlinggo1 Author Profile Page :
 

1. The President and Congress must sign the Kyoto Agreement, now. Undersanding we are sgning in principle, but, by economic basis.
2. Policy will design a market for the entrepreneurial spirit. Word....

Antonio the Sun

 
UpperLeftCorner1 Author Profile Page :
 

The Repubs can reinforce several key strains of their concerted branding effort:

1. They are the "Tantrum Party" - No, No, No!!

2. They are opposed to and don't believe in modern science - or really, science at all.

3. They don't believe in being "stewards of creation" - a belief shared by many religions.

4. They worship the "Free Market" above all else. New slogan for the Repubs: "The Market is my family. Values you can take to the Bank."

5. They only care about that portion of the Market that is entrenched and relies on fossil fuels. They are the Fossil Fuel sect of the Free Market religion.

6. In economic and social terms, its not that they are incapable of looking beyond the "next quarter" - they just don't believe in it.

So, the Republicans will gain even more allegiance from those who believe in the above. With that secure base of support, they can expect a clean sweep for their slate in the 2010 elections in BF, Arkansas. Oh, wait. I hear at least 10 people in BF have gone to community college and most of the rest know how to read and write. Well, there's always the Welfare State, Alaska.

 
gneubeck Author Profile Page :
 

With the Nation in economic distress, and unemployment at 10% the Democrats in the House Of Representatives; and, now the Senate, without even knowing the content blundered thru Obama's "Cap and Tax Bill". Legislation that could well topple our economy into a depression. Pure fiscal insanity. For the Kool-aid addicts who believed Obama when he said that he would give a tax break to 95% of Americans, hold on to you wallets and prepare for the largest single regressive tax increase in American history. This "Global Warming" fraud will prove to be the biggest jobs killer ever conceived; and, simply ship millions of America jobs overseas to countries such as China and India. The next time you hear the ranting of an Obamanite, ask them why there is "NO" statistical correlation between atmospheric CO2 levels and global temperatures (the latter which actually have slightly decreased over the last decade) -and- why the temperature trend lines on Mars tracks identically with that on earth. ((Hint: the Sun is the only common denominator.)) In brief: global temperature variations correlate precisely with Solar activity. As for the sustained hype over Ice Cap melting and sea level rise, Ice core drilling in the fast ice off Davis Station in East Antarctica shows that last year, the ice had a maximum thickness of 1.89m, its densest in 10 years. The average thickness of the ice at Davis since the 1950s is 1.67m. To emphasize the importance of these statistics, Antarctica contains 90% of the world's ice pack. Now you know why the inventor of the internet, Albert Gore, refuses to debate the issue. If the Global Warming enthusiasts were sincere in their intent to reduce CO2 emissions they would be actively promoting the significantly expanded use of Nuclear Power for America's electrical energy generation, not only to rerduce CO2 emissions; but, as well, to dramatically reduce our dependence on imported energy resources; and, to provide a distributed grid with dormant interconnectivity. The logic in this dilemma is exceedingly transparent, our Dictatorial Marxist, Barack Obama, simply wants more control over your activities and lifestyle; and, the health of the American economy be dammed. It's essential that we clean house in the upcoming elections. Greg Neubeck

 
gneubeck Author Profile Page :
 

With the Nation in economic distress, and unemployment at 10% the Democrats in the House Of Representatives; and, now the Senate, without even knowing the content blundered thru Obama's "Cap and Tax Bill". Legislation that could well topple our economy into a depression. Pure fiscal insanity. For the Kool-aid addicts who believed Obama when he said that he would give a tax break to 95% of Americans, hold on to you wallets and prepare for the largest single regressive tax increase in American history. This "Global Warming" fraud will prove to be the biggest jobs killer ever conceived; and, simply ship millions of America jobs overseas to countries such as China and India. The next time you hear the ranting of an Obamanite, ask them why there is "NO" statistical correlation between atmospheric CO2 levels and global temperatures (the latter which actually have slightly decreased over the last decade) -and- why the temperature trend lines on Mars tracks identically with that on earth. ((Hint: the Sun is the only common denominator.)) In brief: global temperature variations correlate precisely with Solar activity. As for the sustained hype over Ice Cap melting and sea level rise, Ice core drilling in the fast ice off Davis Station in East Antarctica shows that last year, the ice had a maximum thickness of 1.89m, its densest in 10 years. The average thickness of the ice at Davis since the 1950s is 1.67m. To emphasize the importance of these statistics, Antarctica contains 90% of the world's ice pack. Now you know why the inventor of the internet, Albert Gore, refuses to debate the issue. If the Global Warming enthusiasts were sincere in their intent to reduce CO2 emissions they would be actively promoting the significantly expanded use of Nuclear Power for America's electrical energy generation, not only to rerduce CO2 emissions; but, as well, to dramatically reduce our dependence on imported energy resources; and, to provide a distributed grid with dormant interconnectivity. The logic in this dilemma is exceedingly transparent, our Dictatorial Marxist, Barack Obama, simply wants more control over your activities and lifestyle; and, the health of the American economy be dammed. It's essential that we clean house in the upcoming elections. Greg Neubeck

 
gneubeck Author Profile Page :
 

With the Nation in economic distress, and unemployment at 10% the Democrats in the House Of Representatives; and, now the Senate, without even knowing the content blundered thru Obama's "Cap and Tax Bill". Legislation that could well topple our economy into a depression. Pure fiscal insanity. For the Kool-aid addicts who believed Obama when he said that he would give a tax break to 95% of Americans, hold on to you wallets and prepare for the largest single regressive tax increase in American history. This "Global Warming" fraud will prove to be the biggest jobs killer ever conceived; and, simply ship millions of America jobs overseas to countries such as China and India. The next time you hear the ranting of an Obamanite, ask them why there is "NO" statistical correlation between atmospheric CO2 levels and global temperatures (the latter which actually have slightly decreased over the last decade) -and- why the temperature trend lines on Mars tracks identically with that on earth. ((Hint: the Sun is the only common denominator.)) In brief: global temperature variations correlate precisely with Solar activity. As for the sustained hype over Ice Cap melting and sea level rise, Ice core drilling in the fast ice off Davis Station in East Antarctica shows that last year, the ice had a maximum thickness of 1.89m, its densest in 10 years. The average thickness of the ice at Davis since the 1950s is 1.67m. To emphasize the importance of these statistics, Antarctica contains 90% of the world's ice pack. Now you know why the inventor of the internet, Albert Gore, refuses to debate the issue. If the Global Warming enthusiasts were sincere in their intent to reduce CO2 emissions they would be actively promoting the significantly expanded use of Nuclear Power for America's electrical energy generation, not only to rerduce CO2 emissions; but, as well, to dramatically reduce our dependence on imported energy resources; and, to provide a distributed grid with dormant interconnectivity. The logic in this dilemma is exceedingly transparent, our Dictatorial Marxist, Barack Obama, simply wants more control over your activities and lifestyle; and, the health of the American economy be dammed. It's essential that we clean house in the upcoming elections. Greg Neubeck

 
vigor Author Profile Page :
 

The Republican Party is a parasite on the country. The good of a few has been costing the rest. Our Treasury has been depleted, we are in several idiotic wars, and the leaders of the Party care little for the well being of the majority of the country. They do not stand for principles; They are not religious, but will exploit religious people at the drop of a hat. Better health care could be achieved for all with benefits for all, but it is being stopped so that a few rich insurance executives won't lose their second or third houses in the Hamptons.

Republicans are not Conservatives. They are not fiscally responsible. They are also not socially conservative. Larry Craig and Mark Foley and David Vitter are glaring examples of what they really stand for; unified and unchecked power that will benefit a few overstuffed Americans.

Phonyism is their new Mantra.
We are not Socialists, but that is their ignorant cry.
Obama is a US citizen, and we all know it.
Sarah Palin is unfit to lead and we all know it.
Doug Hoffman was unfit to lead too, and Ms Scozzafava knew her party had made another bad choice.

Let the Republican Party die and we will start a new American Party from the middle.

Let Karl and Glenn and Sarah and Sean have the what's left of a dead party.

We need to stop voting for people that don't respect us and have done more harm to America than any Terrorist could have dreamt of.

 
fr3dmars Author Profile Page :
 

Been there done that!

During the brief and (unjustifiably) short term of Jimmy Carter, we took strides well beyond the rest of the world in the development of "green energy" technologies. Tax credits for innovation and development led to a fundamental burst of new processes and materials.

Come "Papa" Reagan and those credits fell amidst profligate waste on unneeded military building and tax cuts (yeah - the same same ones that made GHW Bush, a good and honest man, a one term president because he had the courageous temerity to declare that his predecessor's policies had bankrupted us and that taxes must increase to pay the bills. Would that his son were so wise!)

So where are we? Hmm,those brilliant start-ups fostered by Carter tax breaks are generating substantial profits for investors (and treasuries) here? Nope. Norway!!! and Japan.

Can an elephant learn? Sure, and if a frog had wings, it wouldn't bump *ss!

 
aeaustin Author Profile Page :
 

Today's Republican Party is the single most negative factor in American society. Democrats who follow that unAmerican course must be shunned.......

The end of Corporate Welfare is inevitable!

An Independent

 
aeaustin Author Profile Page :
 

Time to wake up and smell the roses! Today's private insurer-controlled health care system is bankrupting our government and the American people. Reality sucks but we all are paying the excessive costs, whether it be in dollars or in little or no health care. The system is broken......

Medicare for all makes the most sense but the Repugs/Conservatives had rather keep those industry CEO and upper management profits flowing. Reality, again. Today's Dem plan is a little half-as_ed but it is the best available to start cleaning up the mess. The Repug plan is just more Corporate Welfare.

An Independent

 
alance Author Profile Page :
 

Is the GOP a winner or loser? What do Republicans have to gain, or lose, from blocking climate change legislation?

It all depends on what kind of legislation. If it means opposition to cap and trade - the GOP will come out as winners.

Thoughtful people of both parties see the benefits of getting better gas mileage, reducing their utility bills through conservation, better insulation and windows and solar energy.

To label everyone opposed to the current legislation as Neanderthals is a big mistake. The numbers of climate skeptics is growing fast.

Don't add any more taxes on energy. We need to start drilling for oil and gas ASAP - and treat it as a national priority.

 
leptoquark Author Profile Page :
 

I have never understood the underlying philosophical motivation behind the Republican position on this issue. What is it that they think they are defending in denying climate change? The merits of the science seem perfectly reasonable to me, yet they seem to have a real problem in thinking that mankind can have a global effect on the entire atmosphere. I think that deep down, they consider it offensive that their freedom to live as they please might be abridged by the needs of others. But, guess what guys, that's the way we live all the time in the real world. You should no more think that you should be able to wastefully guzzle gas, or leave 100 watt bulbs burning outside 24/7, than you should be able to drive on the left whenever you want. People live with rules in society, and in spite of what Libertarians say, those rules are there for a reason: so that all may live.

 
 
 
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