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Murkowski targets EPA on climate

By Juliet Eilperin

Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) offered legislation Thursday afternoon to overturn the Environmental Protection Agency's finding that greenhouse gas emissions endanger public health and welfare.

The resolution of disapproval under the Congressional Review Act, a rarely used legislation maneuver, directly challenges the Obama administration's right to regulate greenhouse gases on its own. Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark.) joined Murkowski in sponsoring the measure.

Murkowski questioned why "bureaucrats" in Washington "are contemplating regulations that will destroy jobs while Americans are doing everything they can just to find one."

"We should take the EPA regulations off the table," she said in a floor speech, adding that Congress will eventually be able to craft a bipartisan response to the question of climate change. "We are not incapable, or even unwilling, to legislate on this topic... We're being presented with a false choice between unacceptable legislation, and unacceptable regulations."

The EPA issued the endangerment finding in December and it became final last week. The finding enables the agency to regulate greenhouse gases as a pollutant under the Clean Air Act.

Senate Environment and Public Works Committee Chairman Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) called the move "a new low, in my humble opinion."

"The Murkowski amendment is a direct assault on the health of the American people," Boxer said, adding that it is "an unprecedented move by a United States senator and her co-sponsors to overturn a health finding made by health experts, and scientific experts, in order to side with the special interests."

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Republicans truly are the scum of the earth. No shame whatsoever.

Posted by: thedude1974 | January 22, 2010 10:05 AM
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More proof that inbreeding is bad for America - first Bush, then Murkowski, with lots of Republicans to believe them. New law - no child of a member of Congress (or of a President) should be eligible for that office.

Posted by: pjohn2 | January 21, 2010 5:57 PM
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Letting the EPA and Senator Boxer regulate anything is a big mistake. The EPA is only interested in expanding its' beaurocratic power and Boxer only interested in promoting Obama's socialist agenda.

Posted by: GordonShumway | January 21, 2010 5:56 PM
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More proof that inbreeding is bad for America - first Bush, then Murkowski, with lots of Republicans to believe them. Ne wlaw, no child of a member of Congress (or of a President) should be eligible for that office.

Posted by: pjohn2 | January 21, 2010 5:56 PM
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CO2 is a gas essential for life on earth. Its portion of the atmosphere is far too trivial to effect the temperature. The EPA and Senator Boxer are wrong. Senator Murkowski is right.

Posted by: jimhill1 | January 21, 2010 5:34 PM
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For God's sake!! The Liberal socialists have made it clear that the END JUSTIFIES THE MEANS!

Here is the plan:
1.) Damage the economy and employment by putting a stranglehold on businesses by blocking the construction of power plants, refineries, and blocking use of our abundant natural resources like oil and coal.

2.) Damage the economy and employment by raising corporate tax rates chasing businesses out of the country.

3.) The Santa Clause tactic: Get the people dependent on government entitlements and liberal socialist policies by promising presents from the public treasury. All you have to do is vote them into power.

4.) The Robin Hood tactic: Use the despicable tactic of class warfare by demonizing the unworthy "rich" and promising wealth redistribution (just like Obama). All you have to do is vote them into power.

5.) Use the thuggery of big unions (like SEIU) to strong arm union members and influence the public in events such as town hall meetings.

6.) Use corrupt, left-wing organizations like ACORN to carry out the agenda.

7.) Build the government bureaucracy to levels that federal and local government employees are dependent on big government liberal socialists for their jobs. All they have to do is vote them into power.

The list goes on and on and on.

Posted by: JimMF | January 21, 2010 5:33 PM
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Yeh, Murkowski,
CO2 is a natural byproduct of respiration. The arrogance of Obama, his democratic minions, and EPA bureaucrats to think they can regulate it is astounding.
I'd like to see the modus operandi be: when is doubt, have Congress pass a new law. The current alternative is tyranny by the majority.

Posted by: bruce18 | January 21, 2010 5:24 PM
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I have some definite beliefs but I like to think I am pretty open and willing to listen to both sides. I realise both parties do/say stupid things and have holes a truck could go through. This kind of move from her as well as those of some other Republicans, (cough! cough! Tom Coburn!), are like adding nails to a coffin containing a possible future Republican vote from me.

Posted by: gonhkn | January 21, 2010 5:17 PM
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So not only are we not allowed to have affordable healthcare, but now we have to let polluters kill us, before or after the medical bills drive us all into bankruptcy?

Posted by: hootie1fan | January 21, 2010 5:04 PM
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It seems that Democrats overreach when trying to make the quality of life for our citizens better, and the Republicans overreach when trying to make the pockets of their Corporate friend better.

Why do Congressional Republicans put Corporate Greed above the lives of Americans.

What good is having a job, when Republicans are slowly killing me with CANCER causing chemicals in my food, water, and the air I try to breath every day.

And, I can't go to the Doctor or Hospital to find help in fighting off the Cancer, because Republicans REFUSE to help the Obama administration in passing substantive Health Care Reform.

Republicans are the GRIM REAPER'S of American Civilization.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | January 21, 2010 5:03 PM
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There are six key greenhouse gases: carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), hydroflurocarbons (HFCs), perfluorocarbons (PFCs) and sulphur hexafluoride (SF6). Is it a good thing to leave these gases unregulated so we will have more of them to breathe? How many parts per million (ppm) are acceptable? And does the outside temperature make any difference on the effects of breathing in these gases? Glad to see Murkowski and Lincoln are volunteering so many people for this project - so we can find out that breathing nitrous oxide makes you feel happy and silly while the carbon dioxide slowly kills you. And if you enjoy methane, build your home next to a livestock feed lot.

Posted by: MIndfulPerson | January 21, 2010 5:02 PM
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For God's sake! What more does anyone need to understand and see that ReThuglicans stand for one thing and one thing only: the super-rich.

Opposition to environmental regulation? Because it would harm super-rich incomes.

Opposition to health-care reform: because it would harm super-rich incomes.

Its not even subtle. In fact, its one of the more transparent facets of politics today.

Screw the environment; screw the vast majority of the American population. As long as the economic top 1% are kept whole, that's all that matters.

Posted by: AnonPoster | January 21, 2010 5:01 PM
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"There are concerns about carbon emissions and there are ways to deal with them properly. If you are going to be whooping around a massive amount of the American economy, you do it through the legislative process where proper oversight and transparency can prevail. To do it through an administrative decision by the EPA is just bad governance. And, by the way, dumb.

This is another example of the administration taking an arrogant stance on due porcess and good governance. Thank goodness for a couple of legislators who will stand up for proper procedure, in the interest of doing this correctly."

Posted by: DOps | January 21, 2010 4:31 PM

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"due porcess"? "proper procedure"?

Are there no bounds to your ignorance? Or your willingness to flaunt it in public?

First, from the standpoint of the facts of the matter, this has nothing to do with the arrogance of the Obama Adminstration. The way that this is being handled is being dictated by the law. What you seem unable or unwilling to understand is that the EPA is exercising authority that was explicitly granted by the US Congress and the President in the Clean Air Act. And the Supreme Court has instructed EPA that the law requires them to use that authority. It would be illegal to do otherwise.

Second, there is only one logical conclusion to the ill-informed drivel that you espouse: you believe that every federal regulatory agency should be abolished and all such decisions should be made by the legislative branch. Do you think we should abolish the SEC and let the House and Senate Banking Committees regulate the industry themselves? That's what you're proposing. That's a great idea if you want another Wall Street crash. But if you want a country that works -- that protects the people from poisons in the air and ponzi schemes on Wall Street -- then you need independent regulatory agencies in the executive branch that stand up for the people.

But based on your comments, I doubt that you're really interested in having a country that works...

Posted by: spike3905 | January 21, 2010 5:01 PM
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well, well. The Post has deleted my comment questioning the integrity of the reporter. How very interesting indeed.

Posted by: silencedogoodreturns | January 21, 2010 4:59 PM
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They can be slapped in the face with contradictory evidence but the global warming cultists still want to damage the economy with a carbon fee/tax and tell others how to live their life.

Posted by: JimMF | January 21, 2010 4:58 PM
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"Yes, when we exhale, we release CO2. There are other entities,
such as plants and trees that absorb the CO2. "
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That's during the day. At night they give off CO2.

How insane to try to overturn science with legislation.
Landrieu should change her party affiliation. I hope
Louisiana can find someone to run against her in the primary.

Posted by: dotellen | January 21, 2010 4:58 PM
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The global warming hoax depicted as science has been proven severely infected with corruption and tampering. Those of you are inhailing the sweet aroma of faux science need to wake up and read the data. There is nothing like ignorance that will end up destroying mankind, and some of you are "tag you're IT" or just dummer than a bag of rocks.

Posted by: candyzky | January 21, 2010 4:56 PM
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"Yes, when we exhale, we release CO2. There are other entities, such as plants and trees that absorb the CO2. "
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That's during the day. At night they give off CO2.

How insane to try to overturn science with legislation. Landrieu should change her party affiliation. I hope Louisiana can find someone to run against her in the primary.

Posted by: dotellen | January 21, 2010 4:56 PM
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"Yes, when we exhale, we release CO2. There are other entities, such as plants and trees that absorb the CO2. "
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That's during the day. At night they give off CO2.

How ridiculous to try to overturn science with legislation. Landrieu should change her party affiliation. I hope LA can find someone to run against her in the primary.

Posted by: dotellen | January 21, 2010 4:54 PM
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And Senator Boxer is absolutely correct. The regulations are already resulting in creating jobs... many in the small business sector.

Posted by: TheTruthPlease | January 21, 2010 4:53 PM
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THE INCONVENIENT TRUTH THAT IS BITING THE MAN-MADE GLOBAL WARMING PROFITEERS AND CULTISTS IN THE BUTT:

Reported by Daily Tech -2/26/08 - Cooling World Temperatures according to the Hadley Center for Climate Prediction. Twelve-month long drop in world temperatures wipes out a century of warming:
“Over the past year (back to early 2007), anecdotal evidence for a cooling planet has exploded. China has its coldest winter in 100 years. Baghdad sees its first snow in all recorded history. North America has the most snowcover in 50 years, with places like Wisconsin the highest since record-keeping began. Record levels of Antarctic sea ice, record cold in Minnesota, Texas, Florida, Mexico, Australia, Iran, Greece, South Africa, Greenland, Argentina, Chile -- the list goes on and on.”

AND THE ANECDOTAL EVIIDENCE FOR COOLING GOES ON……..
1-25-09 – UAE - Snow covered the Jebel Jais area for only the second time in recorded history yesterday. Jebel Jais was dusted in snow on Dec 28, 2004, the first snowfall in living memory for Ras al Khaimah residents.

12/24/09 - Record Setting Snowfall Across Oklahoma, Most Interstates Closed

1/2/10 - Britain is bracing itself for one of the coldest winters for a century with temperatures hitting minus 16 degrees Celsius, forecasters have warned.

12/31/09 – Washington, D.C. - The December 18-19 snowstorm dumped 60 centimeters (24 inches) of snow on the city, the heaviest on record in the month of December.

12/14/09 - Calgary dipped to minus 32.4 degrees, beating a record set over 100 years ago and Edmonton International Airport in Canada saw a record low of -46.1 C and -58.4 C with a windchill, outfreezing even the Arctic.

7/31/09 - This was the sixth coolest July on record. The high was 86 on July 17. For June and July, the average as of Thursday was 70.6, the third coolest. As of the end of the day Thursday, the average temperature in July was 72.6, nearly four degrees below normal.

June to August 2009 State Climate Results: (National Climatic Data Center)
States Below Normal: 25
States Near Normal: 16
States Above Normal: 8

Oct/08 - New Zealanders shivered through the coldest October in 64 years.

AUSTRALIA SEES VERY EARLY SNOW AND VERY LATE SNOW.
4/30/09 - Mount Buller in Victoria’s alpine region – the earliest start to the ski season in the resort’s 45-year history.
12/11/09 - SUMMER in Australia, Victoria’s Mount Baw Baw was one of the many locations to receive snow falls.

Posted by: JimMF | January 21, 2010 4:52 PM
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"Yes, when we exhale, we release CO2. There are other entities, such as plants and trees that absorb the CO2. "
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That's during the day. At night they give off CO2.

How insane to try to overturn science with legislation. Landrieu should change her party affiliation. I hope LA can find someone to run against her in the primary.

Posted by: dotellen | January 21, 2010 4:51 PM
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Republican is nothing if not a party of beliefs. Clearly Murkowski believes global warming is a Liberal myth aimed at destroying Our Country. Also, Godless Communists invented Darwin's Fact of Evolution because everybody knows that Genesis is the way it happened. We elect 'em. They do what they've been taught since they were three years old. Don't confuse them with facts.

Posted by: BlueTwo1 | January 21, 2010 4:51 PM
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"Yes, when we exhale, we release CO2. There are other entities, such as plants and trees that absorb the CO2. "
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That's during the day. At night they give off CO2.

How insane to try to overturn science with legislation. Landrieu should change her party affiliation. I hope LA can find someone to run against her in the primary.

Posted by: dotellen | January 21, 2010 4:49 PM
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A typical Juliet Eilperin one-sided propaganda piece. No explanation of what the EPA ruling means, or why it came into being, or even that it covers carbon, for goodness sake.

But then, when her husband stands to make millions off the global warming hoax, why would we expect her to cover this even handedly? Just because she's a Post reporter? Yeah, right.

Posted by: silencedogoodreturns | January 21, 2010 4:45 PM
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Lisa's wishing won't change how nature works. She'll help pollute the air we breathe faster. So what? The die is cast. It's only a matter of time. Lisa and her Republican know-nothings will suffer along with the rest of us.

Posted by: frodot | January 21, 2010 4:45 PM
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Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) offered legislation Thursday afternoon to overturn the Environmental Protection Agency's finding that greenhouse gas emissions endanger public health and welfare
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is she fking nuts?

greed greed greed... worked for bushole gang

WITH THE BUSH LEGACY... A RUINED ECONOMY AND THE RICH GET RICHER

SEC Chairman Cox Admits Deregulation Caused Crisis
Bush Appointee Christopher Cox, Head of the SEC, who admitted the credit crisis was due to deregulation, burned the oil wells as the Republicans left the White House along with all of the various agency heads. http://tinyurl.com/nzz25g

Under Pressure, Bush Eased Lending Rules
WASHINGTON (AP) --The Bush administration backed off proposed crackdowns on no-money-down, interest-only mortgages years before the economy collapsed, buckling to pressure from some of the same banks that have now failed. It ignored remarkably prescient warnings that foretold the financial meltdown, according to an Associated Press review of regulatory documents.http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28001417/

Posted by: kkrimmer | January 21, 2010 4:44 PM
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Guess what? A cold winter does not global warming disprove. Look at the bigger picture - this year has been one of the hottest on record, all in all. The trend is upward sloping.

Posted by: ravensfan20008 | January 21, 2010 4:43 PM
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Obama and the EPA have tried an end run and now the linebackers will stop it. As they should.

Posted by: FLvet | January 21, 2010 4:41 PM
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Murkowski is right!

Guess what. If science is based on the evidence, the last three to four years has debunked the hypothesis that CO2 and other "so-called" greenhouse gases have been causing global warming. We have had record setting snow and cold temperatures across the globe IN SPITE of "high" CO2 levels.

Corrupt scientists (on the "climate change" payroll) and green technology capitalists are desperately trying to keep their cash cow on life support.

Of course, there are the environmental wackos that need a crusade to give their lives meaning and the desire tell others how to live their lives.

Posted by: JimMF | January 21, 2010 4:38 PM
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Hey Baby you used to be a hottie. Now you're an air-head.

Posted by: billm32 | January 21, 2010 4:36 PM
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There are concerns about carbon emissions and there are ways to deal with them properly. If you are going to be whooping around a massive amount of the American economy, you do it through the legislative process where proper oversight and transparency can prevail. To do it through an administrative decision by the EPA is just bad governance. And, by the way, dumb.

This is another example of the administration taking an arrogant stance on due porcess and good governance. Thank goodness for a couple of legislators who will stand up for proper procedure, in the interest of doing this correctly.

Posted by: DOps | January 21, 2010 4:31 PM
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So where is this going to go?
Posted by: moebius22 | January 21, 2010 4:12 PM
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No where. EPA doesn't fart without approval of Congress.

Posted by: oracle2world | January 21, 2010 4:28 PM
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Do you ever get the feeling that
we're living on Easter Island and
just chopping up the last trees?

I always wondered how things
like that happened...now I can
see for myself in real time.

We're history before it's history.

Posted by: printthis | January 21, 2010 4:27 PM
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I thought the EPA was, after 8 years of inactivity, finally doing its job of protecting America's environment, resources and people.

Murkowski is a chowder head and is obviously kow-towing to some moneyed interests. Those moneyed interests should be happy today, not sad, because now the Supreme Tort has just legalized vote buying.

Posted by: tony_in_Durham_NC | January 21, 2010 4:27 PM
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Just lock her in the garage with the engine running. Don't worry, it's only science. She won't choke.

Posted by: jckdoors | January 21, 2010 4:24 PM
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"Fluoride causes cancer, destroys enzymes in the body and makes tooth enamel brittle."

....and pollutes precious bodily fluids.

Posted by: edbyronadams | January 21, 2010 4:18 PM
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Just lock her in a garage with the engine running. Don't worry, it's only science. She won't choke.

Posted by: jckdoors | January 21, 2010 4:17 PM
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As a citizen of Alaska, I am once again ashamed of one of our Senators. First, it was Murkowski the Elder, who upon being elected to the office of Governor of Alaska, appointed his own daughter to replace him in Washington. Then, there was the shameful acts of Ted Stevens, the lying scoundrel, whose fouled name STILL adorns the Anchorage International Airport.

And now, here is little Lisa - denying that greenhouse emissions are a threat to the planet. Never mind that Shishmaref is eroding into the Chukchi Sea at the rate of 10 feet per year due to the rapidly melting sea ice that protects it and the permafrost upon which it was built. You remember Shishmaref, Senator, don't you? It's a town in your state... It serves as Alaska's most obvious statement that climate change does exist, and that it directly affects the lives of people in your very own state - you know, the place you're supposed to represent?

Never mind that as many as 150 million people may become "climate refugees" because of global warming, according to an Environmental Justice Foundation report, which attributes some of the moves to rising sea levels. These people don't matter to you either, do they?

The people that matter to you? Well, who else? The people who helped elect you - big oil - and how do we know that this is true? Because the legislation that you introduced on the floor of the Senate was drafted with the aid of two energy industry lobbyists. How convenient. How cozy. How stupid do you think we are?

Lisa Murkowski, you are putting your own re-election hopes before the good of the people you have been elected to represent. You did the same with health care reform - and by the way, thanks for the lecture you sent me in response to my letter begging you to reconsider your vote. Thanks for the empty speeches at your "town hall meetings". Thanks for being anti-everything Obama. And hey - thanks for all the fish....

Posted by: borntorun45 | January 21, 2010 4:15 PM
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So where is this going to go?

Posted by: moebius22 | January 21, 2010 4:12 PM
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This is overreach by the EPA and needs to be stopped. I applaud this bipartisan effort to block it. I hope the independent voters of California show Ms. Boxer the door this coming November.

Posted by: cocktails42 | January 21, 2010 3:55 PM
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Overreach? Once again the forces of ignorance demonstrate that there are no bounds to what they don't understand or their willingness to expose it in public. The EPA's actions are not the result of a regulatory agency gone wild, but rather the direct result of a ruling by a right-wing Supreme Court that American law REQUIRES EPA to regulate CO2 as a pollutant.

If have any interest in understanding what you're talking about, you can find the story here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/02/AR2007040200487.html

Posted by: spike3905 | January 21, 2010 4:11 PM
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"Murkowski questioned why "bureaucrats" in Washington "are contemplating regulations that will destroy jobs while Americans are doing everything they can just to find one.""


This is Just the first in many more over-reaching by repubicans energized by the win of Brown in Massachusetts. They will take Brown's win as a message that everyone wants everything overturned, and that the conservative agenda is 100% back in play. Good luck with that. Democrats over reached when Obama was elected, and now repubicans will over reach because Brown was elected.

Posted by: swatkins1 | January 21, 2010 4:06 PM
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The coal industry and electric industry want to use the toxic waste from coal fired electric power plants which is full of heavy metals like mercury, lead, and arsenic as farm fertilizer. This would save the corporations billions by avoiding the need to dispose of this waste safely. Poison the consumer and save money. This is the same scam the aluminum industry got away with when they needed a way to get rid of the toxic fluoride waste from aluminum processing. Put it in city water and toothpaste and on children's teeth. Fluoride causes cancer, destroys enzymes in the body and makes tooth enamel brittle. Obama and the EPA are going to approve this waste for use to grow food for the American people at last report.

Posted by: angel6 | January 21, 2010 3:59 PM
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Why waste time on this subject when Health Care, Jobs, Economy, Budget Deficits, Terrorism require our full attention? Is it a coincidence that the overwhelming majority of people with higher education in this country believe in global warming, whereas the two co-sponsors of this bill represent two of the most backwater, least populated, ignorant, and pro-oil/coal states in the Union?

Posted by: viconquest | January 21, 2010 3:57 PM
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This is overreach by the EPA and needs to be stopped. I applaud this bipartisan effort to block it. I hope the independent voters of California show Ms. Boxer the door this coming November.

Posted by: cocktails42 | January 21, 2010 3:55 PM
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Republicans can run barefoot through the grass all they want. Ignore the facts, keep doing whatever you please, think only only of yourselves. But when you turn around and say "Look mommy, see what I can do!" mommy, and rest of the world will be dead.

Posted by: KJR1 | January 21, 2010 3:54 PM
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Once again an Alaskan woman gives her state a well deserved black eye. She represents the oil and gas lobby. Rest assured, she'll have a hard time squeezing votes from the SE Alaska fishing fleet.

Of course, that's small potatoes compared to the advertising onslaught Exxon, Conoco, and BP can now unleash on her behalf.

Posted by: akcrabber | January 21, 2010 3:51 PM
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If Barbara Boxer or other legislators want to give the EPA the power to regulate carbon dioxide emissions, fine. Pass it through Congress

Otherwise it is a power grab by the bureaucracy over matters it was never intended to manage.

Good on Murkowski.

Posted by: edbyronadams | January 21, 2010 3:51 PM
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Simple solution. Humans exhale CO2. Divide everyone alphabetically by surname. A-L people breathe on even-numbered days, M-Z breathe on odd-numbered days. Everyone breathes on the 31st if the month has 31 days. Problem solved. My proposal is every bit as rational as the fiction that spewed out of Copenhagen.

Posted by: Chippewa | January 21, 2010 3:51 PM
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"I suggest all you liberal wackos STOP BREATHING!!! You exhale CO2 with every breath you take. CO2 is REQUIRED for life to exist. We have idiots in charge at the EPA and that idiocy goes all the way up to the Office of the President.

Posted by: MikeJ9116 | January 21, 2010 3:11 PM "
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Yes, when we exhale, we release CO2. There are other entities, such as plants and trees that absorb the CO2. Forests are, for this reason, called carbon sinks. The same is true regarding certain parts of oceans. Mass deforestation removes the carbon sinks

If you leave it up to "conservatives" (I put the emphasis on that word, because the only thing conservatives are interested in conserving is their money - everyone else be damned.), we wouldn't have any forests and any emissions standards to reduce the release of CO2.

By itself, CO2 is not harmful and I agree, it is laughable to even suggest that it is. But in great amounts, you're breaking a delicate cycle. Not that you care - your only agenda is to slam liberals. If liberals suddenly went against the EPA and climate concerns, you would be slamming them for not caring about the environment.

My take on it all is to stop playing politics on both sides, REMOVE ALL CORROSIVE INFLUENCE from the research field - this means special interests. Then you can do actual research and get meaningful data on how excess CO2 being released into the atmosphere affects the planet, if at all.

Thank goodness for independents.

Posted by: ClandestineBlaze | January 21, 2010 3:45 PM
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Another, really - really bad day for the DEMOCRUDS.

Posted by: stephenwhelton | January 21, 2010 3:44 PM
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Wow, full-frontal parliamentary mischief from a couple of energy industry lobbyists, er I mean senators. Then again, the science is largely irrelevant to the ignorant and the corrupt. Best to disregard these know-nothing pranks. It's strictly window dressing for the folks back home.

Posted by: CopyKinetics | January 21, 2010 3:36 PM
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If the Senate were truly a democratic body, the votes of Senators like Murky would be proportional to the number of people they represented and we wouldn't have to worry about States like Alaska where most of the tiny population live off the polluted dollars of Big Oil.

Alas the Senate was one of our Founding Fathers biggest mistakes.

Posted by: rtreff | January 21, 2010 3:35 PM
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Nothing surprising here. Our political system is incapable of solving any problem of importance. Republicans operate without benefit of brains and consciences, while Democrats are invertebrates. The result? The Senate is tied up in knots for months and is then incapable of passing health care reform, while this measure will no doubt fly through both Houses in record time to ensure that we hand an uninhabitable planet to our kids. And today's Supreme Court decision to protect the "free speech" of the health insurance and oil industries is the last nail in the coffin. This country is finished as a great power. Pretty soon we will so dysfunctional that we'll just sit in the dark, incapable of replacing an old light bulb with a super-efficient one when it burns out. Wouldn't it be ironic if we ultimately solve the climate crisis -- not by innovation -- but by a return to the Dark Ages? That's where Murkowski, Lincoln, et al are leading us...

Posted by: spike3905 | January 21, 2010 3:33 PM
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I am a US Army veteran who supports strong climate change and job creation legislation. Alaskan Senator Murkowski’s amendment and others like it that attempt to limit the ability of the EPA to protect public health and safety works against the values we fight for while serving in war zones. Her Coal industry funded efforts are an embarrassment to troops serving in war zones who expect their representatives to work to protect their families and support programs that can provide jobs upon their return. While we fight for our lives and freedoms, she fights for Coal companies’ ability to pollute and limit our investment and job growth in industries that will cleanly replace Coal with Energy from Biomass, Solar, Wind, Nuclear, Water and Geothermal. While we strive for National Security, Energy Independence and New Jobs, she fights against our efforts.

Posted by: liveride | January 21, 2010 3:32 PM
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anarcho-liberal tarian, does that title mean you are a liberal anarchist? like william ayers? what foudation does an anarchist rest on? chaos? we got that in obama. now americans are going to get rid of the van jones and william ayers and rev. wrights from public office.

Posted by: 12thgenamerican | January 21, 2010 3:31 PM
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Is it just coincidence that these two monkeys are also women?

Posted by: adrienne_najjar | January 21, 2010 3:31 PM
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Another Neanderthal republitard.

Posted by: adrienne_najjar | January 21, 2010 3:30 PM
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hopefully you can get the rest of the repubs to help you. the epa and the other enviro-wacko's are killing jobs and costing american families billions. if there is a revolt, they will be the ones who cause americans to flip out.

Posted by: 12thgenamerican | January 21, 2010 3:27 PM
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Sens. Murkowski and Lincoln, bought and paid for by [insert names of energy corporations here], now with the express blessing of the US Supreme Court.

It pains me to say this, but I must concede that some of our women Senators are no more intelligent or ethical than their male couterparts.

Posted by: nan_lynn | January 21, 2010 3:26 PM
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CO2 is present naturally in the atmosphere, so hence, too much of it cannot be dangerous? To carry that illogical way of thinking even further: water naturally occurs on this planet, therefore too much of it cannot be dangerous. Can you please explain, then, how people die from drowning?

It sure is confusing. Our bodies are mostly water, so how could water, a naturally ocurring substance, hurt us?
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The only thing that is confusing you is your lack of logic in making your point. We don't breath water, DA. CO2 levels have to be over 10% to be deadly to humans. The current level of CO2 in the atmosphere is 0.038%. Do the math. It is IMPOSSIBLE for CO2 levels to rise in the atmosphere to anywhere near toxic levels. The EPA is flat out lying to us in order to gain control over our lives and to dictate to us how we will live. The days of these socialist/communist jerks running our government will come to an end after the 2010 and 2012 elections.

Posted by: MikeJ9116 | January 21, 2010 3:23 PM
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Churchmen in the Middle Ages prevented their cherished belief in a geocentric universe from being shattered by refusing to look through Galileo's telescope. Today, deniers of global warming chortle every time there is a heavy snowfall or temperatures lower than average, ignoring the fact that one day doesn’t make a year and one year doesn’t make a decade. In South Central Pennsylvania this past summer, it seemed as if June was cooler than normal. There was a lot of rain and grass unusually stayed green. However, in spite of this, the month was actually warmer than average. First hand observations by eye witnesses are often unreliable. We are putting more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than before, and we are rapidly reducing the amount of forests available to absorb the CO2 produced. Climate change deniers love to laugh at the absurdity of humans impacting the environment. Well, humans turned verdant lands surrounding the Mediterranean into an arid landscape in a couple of millennia; the waters of the Med are deep blue and clear due to the lack of top soil available for runoff. One only has to visit Las Medulas in Northern Spain to how destructive man can be even using primitive engineering technology. The Romans used crude hydraulic means to devastate a 10km sq. area of hills to mine for gold. The area looks like a lunar landscape. Ironically Las Medulas has been designated a World Heritage Site, which, come to think of it, is not that ironic. What better monument to our penchant for despoiling the environment than this. Sadly those today retarding progress toward saving the environment will be long dead when the worst happens.

Posted by: csintala79 | January 21, 2010 3:20 PM
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The liberals have been telling the same lies and some of you just keep buying in. When I was a young Marine the scientist were preaching the impending doom of the coming ice age. 30 years later it’s getting warmer so they changed the impending doom to Global warming. I know lets destroy the economy on the word of these guys!

Posted by: thenev | January 21, 2010 3:15 PM
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Posted by: markandbeth92
America is slowly shaking off the marxist shackles place on us by democrats.
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Amen to this comment. Tyranny lives in the liberals that currently control Congress and the White House.

Posted by: MikeJ9116 | January 21, 2010 3:14 PM
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Someone without any apparent knowledge of basic science wrote:"No, the EPA called C02 a pollutant not based on science but on politics. C02 is nessesary for life on earth! That is a stone cold fact. C02 was named a danger to health only because it could be taxed PERIOD! That is not science but sealing from the people of America."

CO2 is present naturally in the atmosphere, so hence, too much of it cannot be dangerous? To carry that illogical way of thinking even further: water naturally occurs on this planet, therefore too much of it cannot be dangerous. Can you please explain, then, how people die from drowning?

It sure is confusing. Our bodies are mostly water, so how could water, a naturally ocurring substance, hurt us?

Posted by: josetucson | January 21, 2010 3:14 PM
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There is another alternative on this issue of greenhouse gas emissions. You can have technical standards for new equipment instead of a cap-and-trade system. The technical standards would specify the efficiency and gas emissions of various devices, but the standards would avoid the complexity of the cap-and-trade system. Over time the new technology would displace the older high-emitting technology. This approach would limit negative economic impacts and would encourage the invention and innovation of new technologies and industries. This would lead to new types of nuclear and renewable technologies. In addition, new applications for existing technologies, such as nuclear-powered ships would be encouraged. Technical standards would move the global warming issue closer to being a winning economic factor instead of being a loss.

Posted by: nleggett | January 21, 2010 3:12 PM
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He read from his bible and quoted Sarah Palin to fight the EPA. We can see Russia from here!

Posted by: patmatthews | January 21, 2010 3:12 PM
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I suggest all you liberal wackos STOP BREATHING!!! You exhale CO2 with every breath you take. CO2 is REQUIRED for life to exist. We have idiots in charge at the EPA and that idiocy goes all the way up to the Office of the President.

Posted by: MikeJ9116 | January 21, 2010 3:11 PM
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WTF- have we all gone mad? Who in the heck will care about jobs when there's no Earth? Maybe that's an extreme view, however, given the fact extreme idiots from extremely idiotic (Alaska) and poor (Arkansas) states are dictating this discussion, I think my argument is sound. If these regulations will destroy jobs, well then I guess we have to find new jobs. Its happened before and it will happen again.

Posted by: doesntmatter | January 21, 2010 3:04 PM
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Yay Murkowski!

What America needs is lots more pollution—like Murkowski says, it's good for the economy.

Posted by: lichtme | January 21, 2010 2:58 PM
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What is it with Alaska? Have they no schools up there?
Murkowski's position is so lame that it leads one to believe that there must be some monetary motivation to make her take it.

Of course, we've seen other monetary motivations happening in Alaska. I guess it should come as no surprise.

Posted by: aorj | January 21, 2010 2:57 PM
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Quote: "The Murkowski amendment is a direct assault on the health of the American people," Boxer said, adding that it is "an unprecedented move by a United States senator and her co-sponsors to overturn a health finding made by health experts, and scientific experts, in order to side with the special interests."
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No, the EPA called C02 a pollutant not based on science but on politics. C02 is nessesary for life on earth! That is a stone cold fact. C02 was named a danger to health only because it could be taxed PERIOD! That is not science but sealing from the people of America.

Thanks God for Murdowski having the stones to say "Waite, that is stupid and evil".

America is slowly shaking off the marxist shackles place on us by democrats.

Posted by: markandbeth92 | January 21, 2010 2:54 PM
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Big energy and the politicians they own are trying to set this country back 40 years when it comes to pollution. Yes I am all for jobs but not if they pollute the air I breath.

Posted by: metroman76 | January 21, 2010 2:50 PM
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"We are not incapable, or even unwilling, to legislate on this topic... We're being presented with a false choice between unacceptable legislation, and unacceptable regulations."

Apparently Murkowski hasn't been paying attention. The US Congress is incapable of legislating on any topic. Even when a party has a filibuster-proof majority, nothing gets done. Our lives are constantly bombarded with their twisted kabuki, we're filled with anxiety as they bargain with our lives, and in the end they take their paychecks and their cadillac healthcare plans and they graciously smile and give us the finger.

Posted by: lostinthemiddle | January 21, 2010 2:46 PM
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Daddy's girl needs to wake up and smell the science.

Get out of the pocket of Big Oil and start representing the citizens of your state.

Posted by: anarcho-liberal-tarian | January 21, 2010 2:45 PM
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