THE QUESTION

Was it worth compromising to secure 60 votes?

The Senate bill includes special accommodations for certain states and industries. Was it worth including the compromises to secure 60 votes?

Posted by Rachel Saslow on December 22, 2009 3:00 PM
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dbreitzmann: It is vital that we all remember that healthcare is a human need. Whether or not we agree that it is an inalienable right. True change is ...

shadycustom: I really wonder how much the insurance, hospital and the drugs co. donante to the democract casuss to get this bill pass to mandate everyone...

TarheelChief: Congress ignored the public. State and local governments,major industrial and service corporations will go broke paying for health care lia...

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rreiser147 Author Profile Page :
 

In the health care "reform" bill: page 195- "Officers and employees of government health care bureaucracy will have access to ALL american financial and personal records".page 59-"The federal government will have direct, real-time access to all individual bank accounts for electronic funds transfer". HOLY COW! What if they make a mistake? What if theytake funds from an ira account? What recourse woul you have?
This is totally illegal and against the constitution! If this law passes I strongly recommend that American file class action law suits immediately! The law trumps congress.

 
rreiser147 Author Profile Page :
 

I wonder if anyone can tell me how much more it would cost me under "reform" to have a shaft surgically removed from my lower body??
Just on the subject of medicare, did you know that with current cut backs of fees to doctors and hospitals it is now already very hard to find doctors who will accept medicare? Does Obama think that cutting an additional 500 BILLION DOLLARS more from medicare will affect seniors in a positive way? Under "reform" they have reinvented something called the "medical home" (section 1302) which specifies that patients might have to settle for a nurse practitioner rather than a physician as a primary-care provider. Medical homes are likey to resemble the unpopular gatekeepers of 20 years ago because cost control will be a major consideration (rationing). It may be, I believe, that they expect that you would not be able to find a "doctor" as a primary physician at the reimbursement rates they will be paying! Medicare will be gutted and severely restricted for all of us who have paid, in the form of medicare payrole taxes all our lives. This is a breach of contract to say the least! The medicare fund has been systematically been looted for years by congress and the money spent elsewhere. This is why they are having problems meeting current expenses. They gave all our money to the banks and the ceo's so I guess we will have to make up the difference. God help is all! Stay healthy.

 
dbreitzmann Author Profile Page :
 

It is vital that we all remember that healthcare is a human need. Whether or not we agree that it is an inalienable right.

True change is not invoked by this bill. It is a monstrosity that the average American, working full time would't read in six months.

Any solution must protect self-directed care, free of cost constraints. We must also value labor by protecting the solvency of Medicare. Youth are now paying for this social program without a promise it will exist when they retire. Older Americans must be protected as well.


The average 60 year old cannot afford the premium she would be quoted for individual insurance. We are essentially, gambling that no one over a certain age will ever be unemployed. As is the trend in European nations, funny as we don't like any other of their models, retirement age will be moved even later in life.

I am an advocate for the only system which protects the average American. She is living on credit, has no savings and couldn't afford a $5,000 out of pocket maximum if her life depended on it (literally).

All care should be nonprofit, paid by doubling the Medicare tax, to 4% and the 28 year old just denied cancer treatment his doctor said was life saving, would sleep better tonight.

 
shadycustom Author Profile Page :
 

I really wonder how much the insurance, hospital and the drugs co. donante to the democract casuss to get this bill pass to mandate everyone carry insurance

 
TarheelChief Author Profile Page :
 

Congress ignored the public.
State and local governments,major industrial and service corporations will go broke paying for health care liabilities.
No restraint has been put on medical providers. They have not capped the cost of medical education.They have failed to increase enrollments in medical and nursing schools.They failed to restrain hospital costs or limited attorneys' fees.
It's time to avoid Congress,the Supreme Court, and the President and take matters to the public.
It is not a radical idea it was done several times in difficult times when the ratification process bogged down,after the Civil War,during the first two decades of the 20th Century.

 
 
 
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