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Gen. John Batiste (Ret.)

A retired U.S. Army Major General, John Batiste is president of Klein Steel Services, Inc, based in Rochester, New York.

We need manufacturing jobs, not social programs

Q:The overwhelming consensus among economists is that the economy needs another shot of short-term stimulus spending. But as the president and congressional leaders have discovered in trying to pass a new stimulus bill, voters want to start bringing the deficit down now. Is this one of those leadership moments when it is better to accommodate strong constituent beliefs rather than trying to convince them they are wrong?

The major shortcoming of previous stimulus efforts is the failure to empower and energize America's manufacturing base. Only with the recovery of our manufacturing base will the economy sort itself out and the deficit be reduced. Up until now, however, the stimulus effort has been misdirected to social programs that will only produce a culture of dependency and more debt. I am reminded of the quote "Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today. Teach a man to fish; and you have fed him for a lifetime".

The administration's stimulus handouts amount to very expensive feel-good fixes that quickly run out of steam. There is no staying power and we continue to spend money that we do not have. I believe that a better solution would be to create real manufacturing jobs in serious numbers. One is hard pressed to find any company in the manufacturing sector that has seen the first dollar of stimulus.

I believe in the America work ethic. Most Americans would much rather be part of a high-performing manufacturing team than be dependent on government social programs. There is no honor in receiving a handout when one is perfectly capable of working to support his or her family.

Sadly, our president and congressional leaders have it wrong and thankfully our system of government has a forcing mechanism--the voice of the people. I for one expect a loud and sustained constituent voice.


By Gen. John Batiste (Ret.)

 |  June 22, 2010; 3:11 AM ET
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But I thought 'the invisible hand o' capitalism' was just making the right judgements when all these manufacturing jobs left our nation or died entirely.

Truth is, as long as we are trying to compete with workers living far below our general standard of living, there is only one thing to do, lower our standard of living. There would be many benefits to this, and I look for it to happen as long as our businesses race to the bottom in an attempt pad quarterly reports instead of looking at the bigger, long term, picture.

Posted by: blackmask | June 23, 2010 6:09 AM
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I'm a software contractor. During the period 2000-2006 I had a string of jobs working for companies involved in the process of buying other companies. My job was to transfer the data from the various disparate database(s) of the bought company into the purchasing company's data structure.

In each case the company bought a competitor to eliminate the competition. They weren't interested in maintaining the other company or hiring their people. Those jobs were lost, gone for good.

That's what companies do. They are in the business of making money for their shareholders, they are NOT in the business of creating jobs or maintaining employment.

Employment is a side effect.

You can't just wave a magic wand to create new jobs. Unless you want to interfere in the corporate model you can't make them hire people who just aren't employable.

A company's job is to make money. They can't manufacture things nobody wants or can pay for. They can't make money paying inflated (living) wages to overpriced unskilled labor.

What are you going to do? Are you going to mandate from on high that corporations start losing money manufacturing overpriced things nobody will pay for, just so more unskilled peasants can have a job?

sounds awfully communistic to me.

Posted by: barferio | June 23, 2010 5:55 AM
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There was Never a first so-called Stimulus! - The most Hurting of U.S. Citizens are being ignored!- The DISABLED & ELDERLY Living in POVERTY are Suffering even more. This Congress does Not care- period! - How Shameful. - (also:-) --- SENATE has members with 2-3 terms. Please tell the American People why You have NOT developed a Plan for Alternative Energies by now? - This is insanity, and of course an act of being a Traitor! - 36+ years ago We needed an alternative to OIL! - 36+ Years of Congress after Congress doing NOTHING!! -- You 'Red' & 'BLUE' Traitors should be more than Ashamed. - You should be in Prison. - WE-the-People are Sick & Tired of both Republican & Democrats in CONGRESS being in $BED with these globalist Derivative-Pushing BANKsters, and the MONOPOLY OPEC-OIL!! -- "ENOUGH of this CRAP"!! -- WE-the-People deserve better than a Congress of 'turn-coat' Corporate $special-Intersts cronies!!! -- "WAKE-UP-PEOPLE"!!! - OUR Great "REPUBLIC" is being Destroyed!!! - jward52

Posted by: jward52 | June 23, 2010 5:46 AM
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Out here in the hinterland of Western Pennsylvania the local newspaper is full of stories about the exploits of the high school sports teams and the ambition of all the young folks seems to be to buy a big truck and drive it around conspicuously. What, exactly, is to be manufactured here? The populace is barely literate and still hearkens to it Appalachian roots in social values. The idea of getting an education and creating something new is way beyond these people. Oh, and hatred of "immigrants" is right up there with White Pride, homophobia, Sarah Palin, and other "Christian" values. The author doesn't have a clue, obviously. Get your butt out beyond the Beltway and see for yourself. The idea of being competitive with a German or a Chinese would be met with a blank look.

Posted by: PJTramdack | June 23, 2010 5:20 AM
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What manufacturing jobs, where?
What is to be manufactured, who is to buy it?

It is beyond stupid to think that just saying we need more manufacturing jobs is going to do anything about creating them. Entire industries have disappeared, not one single job formerly existing in them will ever come back.

You can't just invent jobs out of thin air.

That's all this author has here, thin air.

Posted by: barferio | June 23, 2010 4:27 AM
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Wonderful,this week Whirlpool announces it will move production of its Evansville Indiana to Mexico. Apparently U.S. Mexican Workers are too expensive. But if you buy one of their products,be prepared to pay the "American" Price. Want- to- be Governor of California,Ms. Meg, moved thousands of H.P. jobs to China. The Chinese Employees are so happy about pay,benefits,and working conditions,they are killing themselves, jumping off roofs and stairwells at the plants. The same subcontractor makes junk for Apple and Dell,thats why I guess I-Phones sell for the Chinese price of $5.00 each,since the Chinese workers make about $235.00 a month, and Apple passes on the savings to you. Soon G.M. I am betting will be making more and more Chinese Auto's,along with the new wave of Chinese cars in the next five years. The rest will follow.
Meanwhile our Zombie Banks will be betting on Movie Futures,and selling Pork Bellies and Chicken Fat Futures short. No time or money is available to invest in the mother country. I weep for the future.

Posted by: jeromejmarkiewicz | June 23, 2010 4:03 AM
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One question, Gen. Batiste: How?

The President (and his predecessor) supported spending billions of dollars bailing out (or if you prefer "stimulating") one of the largest manufacturing sectors -- auto. And he gets regularly panned for it. Should we do this for all suffering manufacturing industries?

Or should we focus on putting money into new manufacturing related to clean energy -- because that actually IS part of the stimulus, even though Batiste doesn't seem to know it. What's your plan Gen. Batiste?

I admit that this piece is quite cute and charming in a sixth grade essay sort of sense -- "I believe that a better solution would be to create real manufacturing jobs in serious numbers!" "I believe in the American work ethic!"

But despite that, it's a disservice to the reader for the Washington Post print and front-page promote such a misinformed, empty criticism.

Posted by: vvf2 | June 23, 2010 3:58 AM
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This is country U.S. on planet Earth to planet Batiste: the manufacturing jobs in the US are gone and, as Bruce Springsteen would sing in 1985, they ain't never coming back. That's the human American citizen cost of globalization to make the financial sector well off, and so-called American manufacturing corporations pay good dividends to their stakeholders.

Until we CHANGE (for real this time) our social economic system from a predatory market based system to a regulated open market system (also called social capitalism) we won't have the slightest chance of avoiding government over-stimuli to a dead manufacturing sector.

Posted by: jczarne | June 23, 2010 2:54 AM
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Just like the guy in the YouTube video on the Canadian Hemp industry - if we could tell the difference between marijuana and hemp here in the United States like the Canadians can, we could be growing and processing hemp and making a profit on 25,000 different useful and healthful products in about 4 and a half months right here in the U. S. of A.! If Congress and government would just get out of our way, we wouldn't be in half the trouble we're in today.

Posted by: Allfiredup | June 23, 2010 2:28 AM
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Thanks to our ridiculous "Robin Hood in reverse" tax system, it pays to outsource our jobs and work the remaining folks in what's left of our domestic work force to death - all so that a few bigwigs can command multi-million dollar salaries and bonuses. Imagine what would have happened if this non-system were in place on, say, December 7, 1941. There wouldn't BE a U.S.A.
The point of higher tax brackets for huge salaries is not to actually have the government collect that money - it's to force companies to plow their profits back into job creation and capital maintenance and upgrades, by giving them a choice between investing in themselves (and hiring more workers, instead of laying so many off and burning out the rest) or paying out a big chunk of their profits in taxes. Of course, they would rather not pay those huge taxes, so instead they'd end up creating more jobs. That was the system until the Reagan years, and it worked well until our own management made the mistake of losing sight of what the customers really wanted (in other words, getting smug). Now we're literally subsidizing our own unemployment and committing national suicide by losing our manufacturing base. If we don't change course, this country is kaput.

Posted by: grossness54 | June 23, 2010 1:46 AM
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Interesting comment from someone who spent his career in one of the largest sinks of our tax dollars. Instead of dumping money into the bloated military budget, maybe money should be spent on infrastructure that help US commerce. If anyone knows engineers that work for defense contractors, they know that that refer to defense contracting as "white collar welfare"

And regarding the loss of manufacturing jobs, I understand that the unemployment rate for those with advanced degrees is very small even in this recession. The message is that if you want to be on top of the financial pyramid, you need to have top of the pyramid skills. Sorry to say but in today's global economy, manufacturing is no longer a top of the pyramid skill as it was 50 years ago. Timd to start thinking about moving foward and being competetive in the global economy, not moving backward.

Posted by: scientist2 | June 23, 2010 12:34 AM
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What a silly, self-serving column. Sure, I'd like Government to give my software firm a hand-out just like this writer wants one for his steel company. But it's just more dumb right wing politics to somehow try to tie that to the stimulus investments which saved over 3 million american families' jobs,as so ably orchestrated by this administration.

Posted by: jbh3 | June 23, 2010 12:18 AM
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It's my understanding that economists generally believe that the Great Depression was pushed along by increasing tariffs, and extended by increasing taxes.

Interesting that this retired general, who I must believe never studied economics, is now urging us to repeat both those mistakes.

Posted by: thmas | June 22, 2010 11:49 PM
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DAVEW175 is correct. General John Batiste offers nice platitudes about trashing the stimulus plan but what are the specifics of General Batiste's plan ?

Posted by: prolgazinternet | June 22, 2010 11:46 PM
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I met a former democratic multi-term congressman from South Carolina last week at a small party. He found out that I was a republican (the only one there).

We had a lively discussion that included the topic of manufacturing jobs. Apparently his district had been the largest textile manufacturing district in the country during his tenure, but the factories closed and the jobs went to China.

I told him my guess was that over taxation and regulation were at fault.

He replied that businesses in this country were just evil and out to make money, nothing more. He compared modern business to the Robber Barons of the nineteenth century, in need of a Teddy Rooseveldt to come save the public from them.

Then this gem:

One day (according to the congressman) the owner of the textile factories came into the congressman's office. "congressman, these here taxes are killing me, and why do I have to pay them? Just today, I was in the grocery store, and people wee using food stamps to buy liquor!" The congressman's reply? "Well, just think of it as an insurance policy. If "those people" (the congressman's words) didn't get that money, they'd be burning your factories down!"

A democratic congressman.

And he couldn't understand where the jobs went.

And I guess that his party still can't.

Posted by: tacheronb | June 22, 2010 11:42 PM
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For many years, those of us who used to be in the manufacturing arena were screaming that those jobs going overseas were never coming back and that the service economy was just "dollars chasing dollars" and no way to create wealth.

But business knew better and chased cheap (in all definitions of the term) labor. We were told that this was the global economy and we were in competition with labor on the other side of the world.

Now, when we need to be able to manufacture things, we find all those factories are shuttered and the workers with all that knowledge and skill are flipping burgers.

And that is the free market at work? Is this how we are going to work our way out of the recession (depression?) into which the housing/banking/auto/oil industries have taken us?

Something(s) are VERY wrong with those pictures!

Label me a former quality engineer at the Eastman Kodak Co. - used to be the largest film maker in the world. Now struggling to survive.

Posted by: mberke | June 22, 2010 11:08 PM
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their carbon footprint and saving the taxpayers of new mexico $600,000 over the next 20 years. They will provide manufacturing jobs to an Albuquerque based solar panel company and a local steel fabricator. The bus stops will encourage increased ridership, lowering our carbon footprint and providing manufacturing jobs to a local steel fabricator.

So my projects are more than just social programs. They are concrete projects that provide jobs, save taxpayer money and lead to an energy independent future. But Mr. Jean Batiste is right about one thing: I do FEEL GOOD about my ARRA projects.

Posted by: junk-u | June 22, 2010 10:28 PM
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John Batiste gets a little bit right, most people do want meaningful work that pays a living wage. A number of the more perceptive replies accurately note the impact of globalization and give the historical context that make obvious (to anyone learned enough) that traditional manufacturing isn't coming back - not in our lifetimes.

Batiste uses the simple platitude about giving a man a fish and teaching a man to fish. I suppose Batiste may not read the papers, but everyone now knows how to fish and we are running out of fish. The old models of resource exploitation are rapidly becoming unworkable. We need to change the model. Sustainable resource management is not an option - it is a requirement for survival of mankind. A simple minded approach clearly appeals to many simple minded individuals, but it ain't gonna work.

We do need to put people to work doing productive tasks, not churning out crap and squandering natural resources while destroying the environment.

Batiste has a magical plan, "...with the recovery of our manufacturing base will the economy sort itself out and the deficit be reduced. Up until now, however, the stimulus effort has been misdirected to social programs that will only produce a culture of dependency and more debt."

Right, just wave the manufacturing wand and poof. By the way, most of the stimulus spending has not been on misdirected social programs. Check your facts, sir. The stimulus spending has kept the economy from descending into a deeper recession/depression. We cannot continue to deficit spend indefinitely, everyone knows that, but we will do greater harm than good by pulling the plug and provoking a deep depression. What is critical is that we use the time we have to create new jobs for the future that center around sustainable resource management, clean renewable energy production and energy and resource conservation. President Obama is correctly pushing for such and the Republican are obstructing the effort by all means, at the behest of business interests that benefit from the present exploitive destructive model. I would not follow Batistes lead, he lacks a clear understanding of what we face and his remedy is a pastiche of worn outdated fantasies.

Posted by: right_as_rain | June 22, 2010 10:10 PM
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I agree with the many, many posters who point out that the General's desires are completely impractical. People who want factory jobs can't expect anything near unionist wages anymore, and should be grateful for anything near $15 an hour. Company owners should take on all the risks of their own financing for investment upgrades in plant and equipment.

Finally, innovation is an American responsibility, to invent or discover new products worth manufacturing, that people all over the world will want to buy. There can't possibly be less inventors in the US than there were 50 or 100 years ago, so where are the companies making and selling their inventions? I would gladly pay $200 for a device that would make bath water in hotels and high-rise apartment or condominium buildings really hot. Why can't I buy one outside India? And so on.

There is no lack of things to be manufactured. I think there is a lack of company owners with the guts, balls, and fire in their belly to be the leaders to do the job, plain and simple.

Posted by: FirstAdvisor | June 22, 2010 9:51 PM
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Thank you very much for writing this article. We need to get off our addiction to cheap Chinese stuff. I often wonder why more people aren't concerned about this. Every great nation has to have manufacturing or it will cease to be a great nation. We can't sustain ourselves on suing each-other, serving food and health care. I don't understand some of the silly comments posted so far blaming this particular president. This ignorant vitriol is unnecessary. Check out this article in the Post:http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/21/AR2010062104755_2.html?hpid=topnews

As the above article quotes 'Under the pressures of globalization, the number of manufacturing jobs in the United States has been shrinking for decades, from 19.5 million in 1979 to 11.6 million this year, a decline of 40 percent.'

This has been going on for a long time folks.

Posted by: stswork | June 22, 2010 9:18 PM
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After one and a half year and over a trillion dollars now we need manufacturing job subsidies? I THOUGH THE FIRST TRILLION WAS FOR THE MANUFACTURING JOB. As long as we have minimum wage and union, the manufacturing jobs are not going to come back to this country. forget it because our dear president is busy destroying any job that is available to us.

Posted by: chaemoondriver | June 22, 2010 8:54 PM
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This guy seems to be arguing for the government-sponsored creation of millions of manufacturing jobs.

Manufacturing what? And selling to whom?

Oh, I get it - he wants a centrally planned economy where the government decides what we're going to make, and how much of it each person is going to get.

Sounds like the right wing has finally flown up its own ass.

Posted by: wands1 | June 22, 2010 6:49 PM
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Great advice, especially coming from someone who spent their first career collecting a check from one of the biggest drains on the federal budget.

Start energizing the manufacturing base by closing your steel plant and let the countries who can produce it cheaper and at just as high a quality do it. Then we can cancel the US subsidies to your industry and focus our national resources in competitive fields. You could use your leadership expertise to start up a clean energy, or new high tech company that actually has a workable future, re-hire all of your former employees, and quit being a speedbump on the capitalism highway.

There is no re-createing the 2nd industrial revolution. Steel, automobiles, small electronics, and textiles aren't growth industries any more. That's why those things are all produced in third world sweatshops. You can't rebuild the American economy on sweatshop manufacturing unless you're gonna pay sweatshop wages too. You can't have the prosperity of the 1950's without the devastation of our competitors of the 1940's. Quit trying to re-make the past. The new manufacturing has to be high tech, computers, green energy, etc. Don't waste stimulus money on corporations that have already failed to compete. Use those stimulus $ on "feel good" lines of manufacturing and fields of production that will serve future generations of consumers, not re-visit some romantic vision of the blue collar middle class past.

Thanks for the economic advice. Twenty years manufacturing "peace" certainly makes you an expert in field.

Posted by: took1 | June 22, 2010 6:18 PM
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I used to work in manufacturing (in quality control) and whole-heartedly agree with Gen. Batiste. I feel once manufacturing jobs are gone, they're gone forever. Like other fields, manufacturing has its own unique learning curve. If skilled machinists die out without opportunities for apprentices, their knowledge dies with them.

So much for the supply side. How can demand be created? American manufactured goods will be much more expensive than comparable foreign goods, putting them at a competitive disadvantage. Apart from items exempt from international trade laws (say, military needs), I don't see how goods made in the USA can be a viable competitor without a continuous, long term (several decades) commitment to manufacturing.

Posted by: yo_tamon | June 22, 2010 5:33 PM
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Thank you for writing this, you have hit the nail on the head. I often pose the question of what would happen if we went to war with China? Not a problem, they would ship us all we needed to fight them. You know all the unimportant stuff we no longer make. Shoes, clothes, electronics on and on it goes. Folks you cannot build up industries overnight. It takes years to build the factories and train the work force. What we have done to ourselves is stupid. At the very least, build factories close to us in Mexico. It would be less dangerous and would solve out immigration problems.

Posted by: gvelanis | June 22, 2010 5:24 PM
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The issue is bigger than outsourcing, although that is an important symptom.

The fundamental issue is human skills and how our economic system has failed to recognize their economic importance and cultivate human capital in our economy. I submit that the notion of labor as an economic commodity is ultimately at the root of this failure. If you fail to see labor as a valuable human endeavor, and fail to see the value of the human performing the labor, then you will come to a dehumanized view of economic activity, which will disincentivize in investment in human capital: skills, job training, equipment, infrastructure, automation. Think of how the corporate notion of on-the-job training has disappeared in the last 30 years.

But the reality is that everybody must get trained, regardless of their education level. The reality is that not a single penny of profit can be generated by investment alone, it always takes human skills to succeed in business, even in finance.

When we erode the human capital base of our economy, by outsourcing and eliminating our manufacturing base, without engaging in complementary investments to offset the lost skills, then we are simply eroding our economic future. Wake up -- we cannot survive as a service-sector only economy--that is a huge deception! We must make things, we must export goods, we must have thriving small and medium-size manufacturers, and we must develop a skilled workforce. Our economic performance has been going in exactly the opposite direction.

How do we improve the situation? I am no expert, but it seems to me that investors should be rewarded for direct investments that bolster human capital in the USA, but also should be penalized for investing in ventures that outsource jobs and do not engage in workforce job development. You cannot simply force this on the public sector while refusing to pay taxes to the public sector.

Also, we should rexamine the notion of very large businesses providing the only 'feasible' economies of scale. It appears that this calculation does not account for many real world factors. We need an economic environment that favors smaller, regional business units, with more local manufacturing.

Instead, what we are witnessing is the squeezing of the very last drop of profit from the fruits of American labor. And we are doing nothing to replant and cultivate the garden which bore that fruit. Can you guess what path that puts us on?

Posted by: AgentG | June 22, 2010 5:22 PM
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We started falling when we lost our manufacturing base in the 70's, mainly due to what we were producing during that time frame. The world was changing and other countries were thinking forward rather than backward, as a result becoming more efficient in their manufacturing techniques while we were still acting like it was the 50's and 60's. We're still in a fog but getting better but let me get out of the trees and back to the forest. If we (USA) don't manufacture we (USA) don't export which means we (USA) are not bringing any money in. When your not bringing any money in doesn't that make us (USA)unemployed? So then we spend on credit to keep the "status quo" while staying in denial about who and what we owe. That creates a trade deficit, less going out than coming in and how long will we keep doing this before it (credit) does us in. It's all ready happening in some smaller cities, where the infrastructure is collapsing because the credit has run out. We need to get together as a nation with the same sense of urgency that we did during WWII, and just start building factories to become productive again. If the people, the corporations (greedy executives fired) and the government (lobbyist not invited) came together on this it could be done. The latter two ofcourse should be "policed" by the people involved. But then again, I'm making a comparison between two different generations, the one with a work ethic and a common cause vs. the one that only worries about their own personal gain. The difference between these two will result in the fate of our nation. I'm not opportunistic it's a favorable equation.

Posted by: JimB20009 | June 22, 2010 5:11 PM
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No way you can expect the Obama government to create jobs without spending money...every single Republican and some cowardly Red State Democrats will fight this tooth and nail because of "deficit concern". These concerns are foolish and if you were serious you would admit we have to spend (the GOVERNMENT! must spend) more money in the short-term to save our economy and all those manufacturing jobs that you are so concerned about...where were you when they were being lost these past 15 years?

Posted by: walden1 | June 22, 2010 5:08 PM
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Hahahaha. Yes, wasteful stimulus money should not be spent on existing businesses or projects that are of no interest to me. No, government money should be spent on creating manufacturing jobs where the private sector can't or won't spend money to do the same. Yes, if only the government would just stock my "fish pond" for me, everything would be much better.

Posted by: clear_eyed_man | June 22, 2010 4:29 PM
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My fellow Americans, We as a nation have grown collectively retarded,The model for free enterprise has always been America,Lets get out of the personal greed mode big and small business and kick this economy in the ass.

Posted by: leetoth | June 22, 2010 4:26 PM
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Yep, get rid of 'free trade' deals that destroy american manufacturing, and prop up american agriculture!

Develop a serious manufacturing policy, as China and Germany have -- countries that actually make, export and sell goods!

Accept that we can't have an artificially inflated dollar, because it prices our manufactured goods out of competition around the world (which also subsidizes Chinese/German manufacturing).

Trade deficit will shrink, deficit will shrink, and there will be productive work for Americans to do!

Until policy-makers get over these knee-jerk positions, we can't manufacture anything but military equipment.

I know, we aren't allowed to talk bad about 'free trade' deals, even though they are basically designed to pick winner/loser industries. We are supposed to believe the lies that they remove all barriers to trade (they don't).

Until we stand up to the corporate outsourcers pushing these myths, it's the dole for much of the American workforce.

I agree, Americans don't want that, but they have no choice. They are being undermined by their elected officials -- who have to rely upon their corporate benefactors to be in office.

What a mess!

Posted by: rat-raceparent | June 22, 2010 4:26 PM
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You say....

"I believe in the America work ethic. Most Americans would much rather be part of a high-performing manufacturing team than be dependent on government social programs. There is no honor in receiving a handout when one is perfectly capable of working to support his or her family"

What does this mean? What actions do you recommend? Of course people would rather have good jobs but that's not a plan.

Posted by: davew175 | June 22, 2010 4:16 PM
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As long as "We the People" want $10 t-shirts manufacturing will never return to our shores. We are the enemy.

Posted by: daburge | June 22, 2010 4:05 PM
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Dear John Batiste,
I couldn't agree with you more only I'll take it one step further. There is an ulterior motive to this Administration's madness. The idea is to make America weaker and weaker...but why? In a world where tyranny and nuclear weapons run hand in hand, why on earth would obvious weakening policies be put into place? Here's one possibility...

http://conservativeamerican.org/dems-libs-socialists/dems-libs-socialists-obama/obama-adviser-promotes-sharia-law-on-british-tv/

Posted by: ssol4569 | June 22, 2010 3:59 PM
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You are correct. But alas our manufacturing base was outsourced many moons ago and now it's the IT sectors turn. Next, will be health care. The Congress is currently trying to eliminate all of the tax incentives for outsourcing and the big industrial complex is fighting it tooth and nail.
I thnk were doomed.

Posted by: rlsrd | June 22, 2010 3:55 PM
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Thank you so very much for writing this. This is what I have been trying to express to people in the best way that I could many times, and you have done it so very well.

I do not see how anyone can miss that the nations who increase their manufacturing rise and those who decrease it fall, and always have through history.

They do not seem to comprehend that every nation needs an internal economy that circulates the life blood of a nation, and that exports and imports should be as carefully monitored as giving or receiving blood.

If they cannot create a sustainable internal economy then their existence as a nation is forever dependent upon the tolerance and aid of a foreign power.

Please continue to write on this so they will understand.

Posted by: Elisa2 | June 22, 2010 2:21 PM
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