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White House at War With Fox News?

According to the Post's media critic, Howard Kurtz, the White House is now fighting a three-front war: Iraq, Afghanistan and Fox News. Read more of the article.

By Jodi Westrick  |  October 13, 2009; 10:21 AM ET  | Category:  Local , National Save & Share:  Send E-mail   Facebook   Twitter   Digg   Yahoo Buzz   StumbleUpon   Technorati  
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What needs to be remembered is that the news is just another TV show

Posted by: nmoses | October 13, 2009 10:26 AM

Fox News is ONLY about Entertainment.

Posted by: CapHillResII | October 13, 2009 10:44 AM

"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."

"Even if you win the rat race - you’re still a rat"

And so on. What's the point of fighting with fox news? Does the white house get some kind of reacharound for giving Fox this attention?

Posted by: katavo | October 13, 2009 10:49 AM

Wait a minute. Who picked the fight?

The White House should fight back all the media that lie, prevaricate, or twist the truth to serve their politics. That includes Fox and it includes WaPo. The current Layton story about regulatory moves by the White House is one of the most blatantly politicized "news" articles I have ever read. I will not be swayed by the claims of impartiality here at WaPo anymore.

Posted by: lostinthemiddle | October 13, 2009 10:55 AM

Lostinthemiddle: and what, the White House never lies, prevaricates, or twists the truth?

People just need to adopt a healthy skepticism about ANYTHING that they read, hear, or watch--whatever the source.

And it's remarkable that the White House is picking a fight with Fox News. Again, the children in this administration prove that there is no issue too small for them to get sidetracked on it (racist cops, Chicago bids) and lose sight on the real tasks at hand (economy, health care, social security, Afghanistan, etc.).

Posted by: JoeSchmoe06 | October 13, 2009 11:20 AM

Look at Mormon Elder Glenn Beck's amazing attitude change about health care in America after we went from CNN to Fox:

Posted by: coloradodog | October 13, 2009 11:33 AM

if the white house fights Fox...
they are fighting free speech...
the white house will lose...
the people will make sure of that...

Posted by: DwightCollins | October 13, 2009 11:46 AM

Unbelievable. The WH doesn't seem to have a problem with "opinion presented as news" when it comes from MSNBC. Their only issue with Fox is that it fact-checks Administration statements, unlike the rest of the "tingle down my leg" pseudo-journalists that rah-rah at the WH's cue.

Posted by: OttoDog | October 13, 2009 12:00 PM

What Ottodog said, and I'm not a big supporter of the Republicans these days. :/ The major broadcast news media *except* Fox have not been reporting the news -- they've been acting as outsourced parts of the White House Press Office.

Fox has been doing its usual tabloid stuff, of course, but at present I can't say that that's so bad in light of the lack of news from the rest of the broadcast media. Thank goodness for the Internet, a few decent reporters in the "print" news media (most of whom are online these days), and a bunch of bloggers. If it weren't for them, we would have no real news.

The White House should stay out of it if they can't do something to encourage these AWOL reporters and media outlets to go back to doing their real jobs.

Posted by: sakeneko | October 13, 2009 12:12 PM

This White House is a total joke. Fox has hurt their feelings...unbelievable, get a life Obama, quit flying around the world omitting all those carbons, and maybe Michelle should walk to the fruit stand.

Posted by: tcdifla | October 13, 2009 12:36 PM

Cut me a King-Sized break. The main stream media-types BROILED GWB endlessly for the entirety of his eight years. Have we forgotten the endless din against Reagan, Bush1 as well? Osama bin Obama has had a complete and utter pass from ALL the media in the run-up to his inauguration,, Fox included, on everything from his non-citizenship (prove it, Dimmocrats) to his inexperience, to the corruption that brought to he and his wife (another picture of corruption) a 1.6 million-dollar home in Chicago and is only now beginning to receive his just desserts, albeit only from Fox. For the rest of the media and the world, the Coronation of the Great (corrupt and criminal) One goes on. This guy is inept on every level, his party has had veto-proof (and now filibuster-proof) majorities in the House and Senate for nearly four years and have failed to enact anything on the liberal agenda. Democrats are completely inept and without account, even to their own party. Dimmocratz OWN the process and can't get their agenda in. It's the Viet-Nam generation at work, which is to say, no work is being accomplished at all.

Which is clearly to the benefit of us all.

Posted by: JamesChristian | October 13, 2009 1:44 PM

>>>The main stream media-types BROILED GWB endlessly for the entirety of his eight years.

This is revisionist history. The plain facts show that George W. Bush got the lightest treatment from the American news media of any post-Watergate president.

The NY Times apologies over the weakness of its coverage in the run-up to the Iraq War (remember the sinister, and poor-sourced 'aluminum tubes) proves as much.

The facile, glib and groundless comment quoted above also fails greatly to account for the fact that George W. Bush had something no post-Watergate president had -- a completely pliant all-news cable channel (the most-watched, too) that was able with great agility to blunt and drown out any serious journalistic inquiry against Mr. Bush.

Indeed, Mr. Bush got the softest treatment from the press as any president in nearly two generations.

There are few facts to support the 'broiled' contention. But then again, after the Bush years, those who rely on facts to form a solid understanding of reality have come to expect that those who defend Bush's sort of thinking are not above resorting to outlandish and factless 'day-is-night' and 'up-is-down' storytelling.

Posted by: 1EgoNemo | October 13, 2009 2:29 PM

DwightCollins wrote: "if the white house fights Fox...they are fighting free speech..."

Free speech does not stop at the doors of the white house. They don't have to take the lies Fox is telling every minute of the day silently. Fighting Fox does not mean fighting free speech, it means freely telling the truth about the lies spoken freely by Fox. See? Everyone is free to speak.

As Fox continues to lie people will stop watching them, as I did after I caught a lie being told during the Libby trial. I feel a lie told as "news" is a pretty powerful breach of public trust. It only took one breach for me to turn them off, except when I'm interested in the comedy they call O'Reilly and other nonsense.

If you're interested in what Fox has been peddling Dwight check out:
You can even boycott them if you like. See? Free speech and freedom to boycott. God Bless America!

Posted by: Fate1 | October 13, 2009 3:19 PM

So Fox News "lies" while the other networks continue their sycophantic slobbering over this Administration. At least Fox has attractive women, what does MSNBC have - all right, I'll include Chris Mathews has an attractive women. (Tingles up the leg indeed!)

Posted by: CubsFan | October 13, 2009 3:46 PM

A fight against Fox News is not a fight against legitimate conservative values, ideas, and viable options; it is a fight against malicious lies, manipulative rumor mongering,and indecent un-Christian moral character!

Posted by: bernieandruth | October 13, 2009 3:57 PM

RIGHT ON THE MONEY: "A fight against Fox News is not a fight against legitimate conservative values, ideas, and viable options; it is a fight against malicious lies, manipulative rumor mongering,and indecent un-Christian moral character!" Posted by BERNIEANDRUTH only moments ago...AND, I would add one additional piece of wisdom..It will be fun to watch their lies, innuendo, rumor mongering, deception and all around incompetents as 'news' folks(which they are NOT) fall apart under withering public scrutiny...


Posted by: rbaldwin2 | October 13, 2009 4:45 PM

Fox is not news, but propaganda for the Republicants. They have never won a major news award, because they don't present the news. They present bias, lies, and distortion.

And Shrub and his administration did the same with news organizations they thought were being unfair to him. The difference is, Fox is not news.

Posted by: COLEBRACKETT | October 13, 2009 5:18 PM

Politics as usual. A shame!

Posted by: trumeau | October 13, 2009 5:20 PM

At least Fox is open about where its loyalties are--unlike MSNBC that has been owned by the democrats for years now but pretends to be balanced.

Posted by: Dakota6 | October 13, 2009 5:38 PM

Having grown up in a Republican family and gone to church every Sunday, I'm appalled and ashamed of the bad name Fox News gives to the GOP, with their incessant lies and dirty tricks. For that reason, it is banned in this conservative home. If Fox broadcasted nothing but porn 24 hours a day, they would raise their moral standing significantly, in my opinion!

Posted by: bernieandruth | October 13, 2009 5:53 PM

I'm bewildered.

I disagree with President Obama's philosophy and leadership skills, I believe the leader of our country should never lower themselves like this.

His doing so sends strong questionable signals about his character and his sense of self.

Posted by: JAH3 | October 13, 2009 6:31 PM

The more I see and hear from Fox News, the more it needs to remove the label "News" from its name. Essentially, it does just enough basic news reporting to justify its name. Even in this area, it has as many misses as it has hits. It is also serving as a means to inflame protests and so forth. It is an active agent and has become the maker of its own news.

Posted by: EarlC | October 13, 2009 6:32 PM

The White House should fight lies.

But the bigger strategy is simple.

First, they know that partisans on both the left and right have their minds made up on FoxNews. They also know they cannot muzzle the channel, which is very popular and only increasing in viewership.

Second, they are trying to reach independents who may be tuning in for the entertainment. And Fox is very entertaining.

Third, the move is part of a larger Democratic strategy to alert people in the middle that, "This channel cannot be trusted to be unbiased." The Dems sent their first shot across the bow when they boycotted Fox for the Democratic debate during the campaign. They want independents to distrust on some level anything Fox says about the administration.

I think it's a smart strategy that will only work through repetition of the central message: Fox cannot be trusted.

Under this strategy, the president will grant an occasional interview and will eventually lift the ban on his team doing Fox shows. But the central message will be reinforced.

Fox is smarting, too. Don't believe otherwise.

Chris Wallace pitched a hissy-fit. CEO Roger Ailes has already met with WH advisor David Axelrod, and Fox put together a loonnng report that ran on Greta about the W.H. boycott. They challenged the boycott on all their shows, with Beck and O'Reilly taking the lead. Obama brings ratings and Fox wants to be in the game not on the sidelines. All media is the same way.

Posted by: mypitts2 | October 13, 2009 7:45 PM

Not one commenter in defense of Fox claims they actually report NEWS.

How telling.

Good for the White House! It's time a pig is called a pig. All the traditionalists' thinking was old when Ardipithecus was new.

Posted by: ethanquern | October 13, 2009 7:50 PM

To call Fox 'news' is a lie. They are a money making group of extremists. Let's see, they applauded the USA losing the 2016 Olympics and booed the awarding of our President the Nobel Peace prize. They call themselves Americans? Ha They should be ashamed of themselves(but they won't be).

Posted by: kinsman_bob | October 13, 2009 8:14 PM

The question is not worded correctly and puts the White House in a negative position. However, not surprised considering this is based on a Howard artical but this is typical of the "new" WaPo.

Posted by: rlj1 | October 13, 2009 8:21 PM

Oops typo - the post should read.

The question is not worded INCORRECTLY and puts the White House in a negative position. However, not surprised considering this is based on a Howard artical but this is typical of the "new" WaPo.

Posted by: rlj1 | October 13, 2009 8:24 PM

Fox is not a "news" media but a platform for vicious right-wing nutjobs to spew misinformation to the mindless masses who are dumb enough to watch Fox.
WaPo - please keep your editorial writers on the OpEd page. Leave the sensationalist journalism to the Tabloids like Fox. Trash for trash.

Posted by: pjohn2 | October 13, 2009 9:20 PM

bernieandruth wrote: "If Fox broadcasted nothing but porn 24 hours a day, they would raise their moral standing significantly, in my opinion!"

I have to agree. Have you seen the stuff Fox has put on TV this fall?
* 24 - Cheney used this as an example of why torture works.
* American Dad - Vile show, banned in this huose.
* Are You Smarter than a 5th Grader? - A show for Fox News watchers to test their intelligence.
* The Cleveland Show - Worse than American Dad
* Cops - Talk about low budget TV.
* Dollhouse - soft porn banned in this house.
* Family Guy - Worst of the worse.
* Glee - more soft porn.
* Hell's Kitchen - Who wants to see a bad manager berate his employees? Fox News watchers of course!
* House - Never understood this show.
* Lie To Me - Haven't seen it but the name must be from a Fox News watcher.
* More to Love - Still trying to find how low they can go.
* The Simpsons - Only show worth watching because it started before Fox went evil.
* Sit Down, Shut Up - Because Bevis and Butthead was so wonderful.
* So You Think You Can Dance - Created solely to give Tom Delay another job he would be bad at.

If the majority of America is religious and good how can a network survive with this tripe to offer? Or maybe religious right wing Americans really like this trash. You won't find liberals watching any of this ... stuff.

Posted by: Fate1 | October 13, 2009 10:35 PM

Fox is easy. Just don't watch their stupid programming. It's not like we don't have hundreds of stations these days.

Posted by: JoeNTx | October 13, 2009 11:45 PM

Fox media is the Republik Party's pravda.

Posted by: whocares666 | October 14, 2009 12:20 AM

Why the heck shouldn't he pick on poor old Fox?

The GOP has used the big, bad, liberal media as their favorite tool to whip their base into a frenzy.

Meanwhile "the most watched Cable news" gets a free pass for their questionable journalism? Please. The protests against taxes and health care would hardly be big enough to fill a high school auditorium were it not for Fox.

Those posers should wear cheer leading outfits and make an elephant their mascot.

Posted by: delantero | October 14, 2009 12:24 AM

Fox is nothing but a propaganda machine for the Greedy Old People.

Posted by: freespeak | October 14, 2009 5:40 AM

Fox News is simply not reputable. They are without question the most slanted outfit that currently exists on our dial. The biggest laugh is that for years the right screamed about the liberal media and then we get this joke of a news organization. How many liberal news organizations/networks of the past have refused to show the President of the United States. Can anybody out there say their slogan of "fair and balanced" without smiling or breaking out in uproarious laughter. LOL

Posted by: croftonpost | October 14, 2009 7:10 AM

Obama will lose his war against Fox News. This battle will only result in higher viewership numbers for Fox News. Historically, politicians who directly take on the media lose their battle.

Posted by: liberalsareblind | October 14, 2009 7:28 AM

A generation ago it was Rev. Moon and his "Mooney Times" of Washington distorting the news and now it's Murdock and his Fox News. Same skunks, different media.

Posted by: tomniederberger | October 14, 2009 8:37 AM

The queston is biased. Fox News started this fight a long time ago.
Fair and balanced? Phooey!

Posted by: dlgreene | October 14, 2009 8:45 AM

I like seeing both sides accusing the Post of being biased against them. The Post is doing about as good a job as anyone can expect at being unbiased these days.

Chris Matthews started it all if you ask me, when he publicly declared he would do all he could to help Obama. Not help the country -- Obama. MSNBC and most but not all NBC reporters have been horrifically biased in his favor. Fox is a natural response to another cable network ignoring a big audience.

Posted by: kls1 | October 14, 2009 6:45 PM

"What needs to be remembered is that the news is just another TV show"
Posted by: nmoses | October 13, 2009 10:26 AM


(clutching head ... eyes popping out)


WRONG! This is the PROBLEM. I've been fortunate enough to LIVE long enough
to remember when the news was NOT expected to be a profit center -
but WAS expected to be a truthful, informative public resource. and a network's FCC license depended on it.

Until this problem is addressed - no current news source (especially FOX)
can be trusted.

Posted by: daveque | October 14, 2009 7:43 PM

Fox News has plenthy of news. It covers lots of world and local events separate and discreet from the insensibilities of the traitors who disguise themselves as democrats in the Federal Government. Is everything these loons do have to be discussed in codes behind closed and locked doors? Adding more and more pages at the last minute so voting is impossible. Shoving more socialistic agendas at us in all direction so nobody has time to separate them.

Does the Constitution mean anything? Horray for Fox News. It contains the only logical and fair dialogue I know about.

Posted by: mark_mcgovern | October 26, 2009 5:46 PM

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