Post User Polls

Guns in Virginia restaurants: Do you agree?

The Democratically-controlled Virginia Senate has voted to allow concealed weapons permit holders to carry guns in restaurants that serve alcohol, as long as the person carrying the weapon does not drink. The gun bill passed on a 22 to 18 vote, after senators had a vigorous debate about whether or not people might have a reasonable reason to carry guns in restaurants. Read the full article.

By Jodi Westrick  |  February 16, 2010; 2:35 PM ET  | Category:  Local Save & Share:  Send E-mail   Facebook   Twitter   Digg   Yahoo Buzz   Del.icio.us   StumbleUpon   Technorati  
Previous: How long was your commute today? | Next: Metro: Should fares be increased?

Comments

Please email us to report offensive comments.



LOL! Virginia is for Lunatics! Get drunk, Virginia, shoot each other, make America a better place.

Posted by: Boogie_Knight | February 16, 2010 3:56 PM

You can bring a concealed gun to a restaurant serving alcohol, but only if you don't drink! If the gun is concealed, how is anyone going to know you're packing heat AND drinking? By the time it becomes an issue, it's probably going to be too late.

Posted by: SUMB44 | February 16, 2010 5:23 PM

Will it require restaurants to admit people with guns? Is this more government regulation on business - taking away their choice to run their business as they see fit - including not admitting people carrying weapons?

Posted by: graceld99 | February 17, 2010 12:02 AM

The hysteria over guns and restaurants assumes that a gun owner has never owned a gun while consuming alcohol. In fact, many gun owners drink at home where they have more than one drink, and have more than one gun too!

Posted by: blasmaic | February 17, 2010 5:52 AM

By all means. And while your at it, remember: What good is the right to bear arms if you can't shoot someone with them?

Posted by: coloradodog | February 17, 2010 7:40 AM

CCW holders almost never commit crime so I don't see the difference. Those CCW holders who have committed murder did not do something rash on the spur of the moment with a concealed weapon either; typically they have done some premeditated murder and just happened to be CCW holders.

This will make no difference one way or the other.

Posted by: flonzy3 | February 17, 2010 8:28 AM

remember, only pull a gun on someone if you plan to shoot...
raise a gun to a cop and you are dead...
other than that...
have a good time and don't drink...
shoot the guy that drinks and raises his gun...
he will deserve it...

Posted by: DwightCollins | February 17, 2010 8:29 AM

also...
to all the leaders of the tea bag movement...
they want to know who you are...
that means they want to hurt you...
keep you guns at hand and be prepared to defend yourselves...

Posted by: DwightCollins | February 17, 2010 8:31 AM

New state motto, soon to appear on bumpers all over the commonwealth:

"Virginia is for ay-holes"

Posted by: adrienne_najjar | February 17, 2010 9:22 AM

How would one police this? You can bring in your gun but you may not drink alcohol... How does that get policed?

Perhaps it raises the question as to whether or not you have a second amendment right to get totally blotto while carrying your gun? No danger there, right? I suspect that the current supreme court will have no problem with that. Hell, they may even extend those rights to corporations. What a country.....

Posted by: robertmerry | February 17, 2010 9:47 AM

This is a right and long overdue decision.
Finally, a normal law-abiding person will be able to defend him/herself and his/her family from those who carry guns to restaurants anyways, not depending if that is allowed by law or not.
I wish we live in a world with no crime, guns, violence, but it is utopia. Therefore, a right to protect yourself and your family is a must.

Posted by: volga | February 17, 2010 9:54 AM

The State of Virgina just put another Idiotic law on the books. No news here. The NRA has full control of the Virgina State Government and if they have their way, every citizen in the state will be required by Law to carry at least one fire arm.

Stay Classy VA, a Bible in one hand and a Gun in the other....a Real "CHRISTIAN STATE".

Posted by: austininc4 | February 17, 2010 9:59 AM

The irony is, this just makes it more likely that some drunk fool will take a firearm off of an unsuspecting gun-holder and kill someone with it...

It is really quite simple. More guns in places with alcohol is not a good idea.

Posted by: maurban | February 17, 2010 10:08 AM

Oh good grief, Virginia.

Posted by: sarahabc | February 17, 2010 10:59 AM

Surprised Virginia doesn't require everyone to carry a concealed KJV bible along with your concealed weapon.

Posted by: janouzpoha | February 17, 2010 11:22 AM

"Finally, a normal law-abiding person will be able to defend him/herself and his/her family from those who carry guns to restaurants anyways ..." Seriously? When is the last time you've been threated at gunpoint at a restaurant? And what "dangerous" places are next? Grocery stores? Nail salons? Post offices?

Posted by: Labradorian | February 17, 2010 12:11 PM

With the passage of these gun-rights bills, expect the crime rate in VA to go lower while it goes up in DC and MD as the criminals looks for safer victims.

Perhaps you gun-hating Leftists should read up on S. Gratia-Hupp's account of the Luby's restaurant shootings.

Posted by: NeverLeft | February 17, 2010 12:19 PM

SUMB44: "You can bring a concealed gun to a restaurant serving alcohol, but only if you don't drink! If the gun is concealed, how is anyone going to know you're packing heat AND drinking? By the time it becomes an issue, it's probably going to be too late."

That's exactly right and why this is a bad idea. It's impractical for restaurants to enforce...Imagine a waitress or bartender asking, "Can I see some ID and whether you're packing w/o a CCW permit?"

And for patrons who think they "need this" how about building a concession stand/bar at your local gun range and shot two birds with one bullet!

Posted by: dayface | February 17, 2010 1:17 PM

Jeez, the level of hysteria among the hoplophobes (look it up, children) is amazing. Its the typical, unsupportable Brady Bunch "blood in the streets" argument that somehow never comes true. If I'm minding my own business, having a quiet dinner with my family, you won't know whether I'm armed or not and it is no one's damn business. I'll decide if I "need" to carry, thank you. I'm not bothering you, and it's not my problem if you are going to wet your panties because someone somewhere might have a legally permitted concealed weapon. If it bothers you, stay home. Better yet, grow up.

Posted by: Major94 | February 17, 2010 1:44 PM

It will really hurt their business. What kind of an idiot would cross the river to dine with gun packing morons? Please secede again. The US would be better without the entire south.

Posted by: bflorhodes | February 17, 2010 2:05 PM

As usual, the self-righteous self-satisfied gun-fearing/hating faux intellectuals ignore the specifics of this story, the fabricate an outlandish scenario to affirm their concocted stereotypes.

In my state it has been legal to carry a concealed firearm in a restaurant that serves alchohol (carrier must remain sober) since the law took effect 16 years ago. No incidents have occured. None. To the contrary, persons with concealed carry licenses across the nation have proven that they break laws at a rate far lower than any similarly sized sample of the public. Direct your fear and concern toward the people who carry guns illegally.

Posted by: GDHP1 | February 17, 2010 2:07 PM

I don't see what the problem with this is, as long as any given dining establishment retains the right to bar weapons from their establishment entirely. Private property rights should always trump an individual's right to bear arms.

As for alcohol and weapons: any experienced gun owner knows the two don't mix.

Posted by: micron26 | February 17, 2010 2:12 PM

this is brilliant! you can carry a weapon to a Virginia restaurant as long as you do not drink. And how exactly will this be enforced? Is the waiter supposed to pat you down before bringing you a drink? Do you have to certify at the door that you are not packing heat? It's great to know that at a time of huge deficits, transportation difficulties, cuts in education, joblessness, and homelessness that the VA State Legislature is on the job! 20 bills passed on the right to carry a gun.

Posted by: fmjk | February 17, 2010 2:12 PM

People who have been drinking do not pause to consider their actions. They are DRUNK.

Posted by: JohnWWelch | February 17, 2010 2:30 PM

Good Law. It will keep permit holders from idadvertentlt breaking the law.
Previously if you could be arrested if you were in a restaurant that served alcohol while otherwise legally carrying a firearm.

Posted by: Etek | February 17, 2010 2:30 PM

"Good Law. It will keep permit holders from idadvertentlt breaking the law.
Previously if you could be arrested if you were in a restaurant that served alcohol while otherwise legally carrying a firearm."

So... you're saying that the best way to keep people from breaking a law is to get rid of the law. Well, that certainly explains how gun owners manage to be such exemplars of legality! I'm sure many criminals would love to extend that logic to the laws they find inconvenient.

Posted by: progressivePragmatic | February 17, 2010 3:55 PM

Someone who has applied for a concealed carry permit has already provided the government with plenty of personal information on them such that if they break the rules pertaining to the CCP, they will get into deep trouble. Now, do people that are going off on this REALLY think that someone who has brings a legally into an establishment is the one who is going to commit a crime with it, or is it more likely that someone who has a weapon illegally is more likely to do so? We already have laws against armed robbery and murder, yet still they occur...

Posted by: nestor21 | February 17, 2010 4:10 PM

I'm sincerely hope that we do not hear about someone shooting a waiter or chef at a VA restaurant because the food or the service was bad.

Posted by: mbc1954 | February 17, 2010 4:14 PM

Guns are really not that big an issue. 30,000 shootings per year, and probably 2/3rd's are bad guys, so it actually nets out a positive.

Abortion, however, is a huge issue. 1,500,000 "procedures" per year. This is a Holocaust, People!

Posted by: RealTexan1 | February 17, 2010 4:19 PM

Virginia is for gun-toting lunatics. Eeee, haaa, Jimmy Bob.

Posted by: Towards_Light | February 19, 2010 1:22 AM

The comments to this entry are closed.

 
RSS Feed
Subscribe to The Post

© 2011 The Washington Post Company