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Should the Redskins trade Albert Haynesworth?

A little more than a year ago, the Redskins made defensive lineman Albert Haynesworth the highest paid defensive player in the NFL. According to Washington Post Redskins reporter Jason Reid, the team is now attempting to trade the mammoth lineman.

Regardless of reason for a potential move, would trading Haynesworth be a good idea for the Redskins? Weigh in below.


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Who are the 28% idiots that say keep him. He's a freaking bum. shows up out of shape and never did one thing for $21 million. We should get him out the door and kick him in the backside on the way out.

Posted by: Jaymand | April 6, 2010 7:55 PM

Who are the 73 idiots who said trade him? Yeah, let's pay him $30 million dollars for 12 games and THEN trade him, that's the ticket! If you voted to trade Haynesworth, chances are you don't know a damn thing about football. The guy is first and foremost the most dominating defensive tackle in the NFL. Period. Secondly, he was NOT out of shape last year, that is probably the most absurd story to come out of the 2009 Redskins season.

Reality is Redskins fans are the most fickle fans with the shortest memories ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

Guy is a stud and great value to the community as well (does tons of work for charity and donates tons of his money and time as well).

bottom line is he'll be here next year unless Tennessee makes a big offer to get him back.

Posted by: Barno1 | April 6, 2010 8:05 PM

The real idiots are the ones who decided to bring him as a Redskin for 100 million. Now that was stupid. But then it is only money. LOL Synder always pays out big money to learn his lessons.

Posted by: hcpc | April 6, 2010 8:26 PM

Its 73% not 73 people. I think we now know who the idiot is. lmao

Posted by: clwalker1906 | April 6, 2010 8:37 PM

If the guy is going to be a pain in the ass in the locker room, come in acting better than everyone else and not a team player, than let him play in Buffalo or wherever else he can be put out of the NFC. Who can figure out a guy with everything in the world, and still wants to act a fool. He wants to make sacks and be on ESPN, the heck with everything else.
-M

Posted by: Blueslegend | April 6, 2010 8:46 PM

LMAO AT CLWALKER, KEEP HIM AND FINE HIS FAT ASS FOR ALL HIS DAMN GAME CJECKS IF HE DOESN'T PRODUCE! DUDE IS VERY LAME FOR NOT WANTING TO COME AND WORKOUT WITHT HE TEAM. HE IS A LOSER IF HE DOEASN'T GET IT TOGETHER. I DON'T EVEN THINK IT'S ABOUT WINNING WITH HIM. HE CAME FOR A CHECK AND TO EAT LITTLE DEBBIES AND SUCK WIND. SEND HIS COUNTRY ASS SOMEWHERE ELSE...

Posted by: 50midgets | April 6, 2010 8:48 PM

GET HIM OUTTA HERE! WIND SUCKING BUM! ANOTHER DEION SANDERS! JUST FOR THE MONEY! I THOUGHT NFL CONTRACTS WEREN'T GAURANTEED ANYWAY....

Posted by: 50midgets | April 6, 2010 8:50 PM

TO HCPC...IT WAS CERRATO WHO MADE THOSE DUMB DECISIONS TO PAY OVERHYPED PLAYERS ALL THAT MONEY NOT SNYDER. SO SHUT IT UP!

Posted by: 50midgets | April 6, 2010 8:53 PM

This is an uncapped year. Unless there is a labor agreement, this is also the last year without a work stoppage. Money is irrelevant this upcoming season.

Attitude is everything. Albert has shown little desire to workout with the team or be a part of the new regime.

Get rid of him now, while we can. Pay someone to take him and his bad attitude.

Posted by: jimbo561 | April 6, 2010 8:57 PM

Being one of the highest paid does not make you one of the best. You just have a good agent. The Eagles were smart to say no thank you on that deal. Send him to Detroit or Oakland. They'll take anybody.

Posted by: aliben1 | April 6, 2010 9:02 PM

He is typical of today's athlete's he feels he's entitled they should have never brought his fat overweight, don't wanna workout, poke chop and gravy eatin,thigh friction rubbin,waist dunn lapped over,fat azz to this team it was another in a series of stupid moves by Vinny and Danny thank God that's over with,oh by the way trade his dumb behind.

Posted by: dargregmag | April 6, 2010 9:02 PM

I said yes not because I think he is a bad player or a bum, but rather his desire to not play in a 3-4 defense. I gotta think ShanAllen probably agree that Albert isn't prototypical for that style which makes him expendable and probably could garner us some additional draft picks...

Posted by: LaureninGlenBurnie | April 6, 2010 9:35 PM

Its 73% not 73 people. I think we now know who the idiot is. lmao

POSTED BY: CLWALKER1906 | APRIL 6, 2010 8:37 PM

When I posted, 105 people had voted and it said 70%. You are a moron.

Posted by: Barno1 | April 6, 2010 10:02 PM

Keep him...give him his prozac when he's at practice and in team meetings. However, on game day, take him off all meds and don't let him eat in the morning. He'll drive the other team crazy from the nose tackle or end position! After next year, see if you can trade him but only if you can get a similar beast and who is more of a team player.

With all that said, I predict 8 sacks for Albert and 32 plus for our other guys.

Go Skins!

Posted by: DCSPORTSFANATIC | April 6, 2010 10:21 PM

Its 73% not 73 people. I think we now know who the idiot is. lmao
POSTED BY: CLWALKER1906 | APRIL 6, 2010 8:37 PM
When I posted, 105 people had voted and it said 70%. You are a moron.

Ok further proving your stupidity. I guess in bizarro world 73=105. Do yourself a favor genius just stop posting. lol

Posted by: clwalker1906 | April 6, 2010 10:25 PM

I think they should trade him, not because of the money, not because he isn't/wasn't our best defensive player, but because he isn't on board with the Head Coach and he doesn't want to play where they ask him to.

That's too bad. I wish they could come to some agreement about how to use him. Let's see Orakpo get 11 sacks next year with the Samoan guy in the middle. I'd be very surprised. Andre Carter? He'll be lucky to make the starting D.

Very Unfortunate.

By the way, WHY did we have to go to a 3-4? Seems like a bad fit, considering we've got SOME personnel in place already. Maybe it would be easier to cut Haslet.

Posted by: Thinker_ | April 6, 2010 10:33 PM

They should also throw in Carlos "no hands" rodgers, Portis, Hall and anyone else who simply does not "get it"...

I'm tired of hearing all of these players yap about how good they shoulda, coulda, woulda been about this, that and everything else. (sometimes moss as well with his burger king mini hands dropping easy passes)

Just play hard and celebrate after wins. (not after every single play)

go skins!

Posted by: boricuabopper | April 6, 2010 10:45 PM

Who are the 73 idiots who said trade him? Yeah, let's pay him $30 million dollars for 12 games and THEN trade him, that's the ticket!

POSTED BY: BARNO1 | APRIL 6, 2010 8:05 PM

Why do you care how much Snyder paid him? It's not like it is your money...

Posted by: bbrown4 | April 6, 2010 11:06 PM

I can't help but wonder if Haynesworth for Marshall would be another Portis for Bailey, or if it is exactly the type of deal the Skins need to make.

Posted by: CommieX | April 6, 2010 11:17 PM

@Commiex: I don't know if we want to trade one problem child for another. I'd rather see AH go and get some draft picks in return; same for JC.

The money is spent, just like last season is over. Have to deal with what's in front because that's all that can be changed.

Posted by: dalison | April 6, 2010 11:37 PM

@Dalison: Would be nice to get a 4th for JC, incredible to get a 3rd. Haynesworth may have more value than Marshall, WRs are more common than dominant D-lineman - maybe they could get Marshall and a 2nd. I agree with you that they need picks to rebuild, but they sure seem to be looking to win soon.

Posted by: CommieX | April 7, 2010 12:03 AM

I understand Refrigerator Perry is available, let's trade for him .. if you're going to go for fat and slow get the best.

Posted by: boblas | April 7, 2010 12:13 AM

Why should we keep someone who doesn't want to be here? Since this is an uncapped year, better to dump his salary now. It's Snyder's money, let him waste it as he pleases (but don't expect him to drop prices if he ever figures out how to save any.)

I do take issue with deciding to go to a 3-4 defense. IMHO we have too many DLs and too few LBs (or the wrong types of players) to run it. I accept that coaches have philosophies, but this seems a lot like the constant shift in offense styles from Norv to Marty to Spurrier to Joe to Zorn that's partly to blame for never having the right personnel for the scheme. Now it's infecting the defense. How about some continuity for a change?

Posted by: pyrotech | April 7, 2010 12:48 AM

Yes you trade him. He's already shown you exactly what he is and you won't get better from him than you've already gotten.

It sends a message that the Danny's foolishness will no longer be tolerated and that it doesn't matter who you think you are or what you WERE promised or what you WERE paid, you will conform or you will be GONE (are you listening Tortoise?).

This is a case of cost vs worth and it is not worth it to continue trying to make this work. This was Dan's dumb move (one of MANY) and hopefully his last dumb move...swallow it and Move on.

Morale improves INSTANTLY because there is accountability and no more 'owner's pet' rules. Good.

Posted by: kahlua87 | April 7, 2010 1:27 AM

We should think about this logically.

First, this is an uncapped year. Money doesn't matter. Snyder makes more than enough to throw away an extra $22 mil give or take. Trust me, I'm writing my check for my tickets again this time of the year. Since there is no cap hit, the cash doesn't matter.

Second, think of where are needs are. If we can get some quality offensive linemen (which is what we should have spent our money on last year... not defense!!!) then it may be worth trading him, but only if we can get enough in return.

If not, then keep him and play him. He's damn good, and makes everyone around him better.

Also, folks keep talking about the skins wouldn't want to trade him after paying him $22 million roster bonus. Well, this misses the truth entirely: The skins couldn't trade him until they pay that money. Think about it, teams aren't tripping over themselves to buy out the rest of his contract, and they'd be more likely to want to make a trade if it cost them $22 million more?!?! We'd be laughed at in all 31 cities.

The huge contract was our mistake, so we needed to pay the piper. Mercifully it won't cost us anything from a competitive standpoint, as it's an uncapped year so it won't stop us from being able to say sign our #4 pick without releasing other players, or renegotiating more contracts, pushing the crisis off to next year....

Again, if you can get value, which is more likely now that he's only guaranteed $9 million more in this contract, then you go for the trade. If not, you tell him to buckle up, come to camp in shape, and play like he want's to be here... cause the bench is always welcome regardless of how much money you make. The point is to win.

Posted by: Cobalt1 | April 7, 2010 2:02 AM

Additionally, if you aren't a season ticket holder, you don't have any right to say: "WE paid him $30 Million Dollars." And even if you are, it's still not your money. (Especially since this money has no salary cap ramifications... it's not going to hurt the team if there's no cap.) Danny spends it, and Danny must make it back. You don't have to eat and drink in the stadium, let Danny make back his millions off someone else. Me, I tailgate in the parking lot and for the most part, as long as the owner is spending money trying to win, I won't blame him for that.

I may blame him for meddling, or impatience, or trying to fleece his fans, but that's another story....

Posted by: Cobalt1 | April 7, 2010 2:09 AM

It's like John Matusak said in the movie North Dallas Forty when he laid into a coach; "When we want to call it a game, you want to call it a business, and when we call it a business, you want to call it a game". Listen, anyone who thinks that Haynesworth wasn't a major reason Orakpo and Carter got over 20 sacks between them doesn't know football. If we had a real FS on the roster instead of 3 SS's, our D would have been top 5 in yards allowed AND scoring. Second, the man explicitly asked BEFORE signing about where he would be asked to play. He explicity said he didn't want to play the NT position. He wasn't told then he would play where ever he was told to play, and would have to accept whatever scheme the revolving door coaching staffs wanted to implement. He was told he would be a 4-3 DT. But business is business, and his contract doesn't negate playing NT. Fine. He didn't say he WOULDNT play NT, he just isn't happy about it. Does his contract say he can't be unhappy about anything? And about the VOLUNTARY workouts, are they in his contract? This attitude that when its an ownership/management issue, business is business, but when its a workers issue, well, then commitment and kiss ass ooh rah and going the extra mile are vital It goes both ways. Yeah, the players make alot of money, but Shanny and Allen and Snyder don't make chump change. They get very nice monetary returns for their efforts. Its the same old crap. The workes are supposed to give effort beyond their contract requirements, but management and ownership get to hide behind "its only business". It would have been nice if JC would have gotten a simple 10 second phone call just saying "we wanted you to hear it from us first, we just traded for McNabb". But they didn't have to, business is business. Haynesworth played more than any other D lineman on the team except Carter. So he was tired alot. He still kicked against double teams on every play, and probably triple teams on many. We're not talking about dancing against an outside double team like an Orakpo or Ware. We're talking about intense, in the trenches, sumo wrestling type physical battles. Every fricking play. And he was very effective.

Posted by: kenboy1 | April 7, 2010 2:11 AM

He is an excellent player but if he doesn't want to be an integral part of the team, you have to bite the financial bullet and let him go. No room for drama queens.

Posted by: adrian7 | April 7, 2010 3:51 AM

Shanahan is proven...if he says Heynesworth goes, he goes. Afterall, he is the genius that got us McPuke.

Posted by: jshoup5 | April 7, 2010 5:56 AM

Trade the Baconator!

Posted by: CHICO13 | April 7, 2010 7:52 AM

@Kenboy1: Good points about AH. He's clearly a very talented D lineman. My biggest concern with him is his team oriented attitude. He knows better than the coaches what he should be doing. If I'm being paid the kind of compensation he is (tops in my role among all my peers nationwide) and my employer tells me I should do something a certain way, I do it. Especially if my new employer has a reputation for success and is counting on me to be a key part.

He may be able to pull that rope better than anyone, but if he's pulling it in the wrong direction it's just not helping the team succeed.

Posted by: dalison | April 7, 2010 8:52 AM

If you voted to trade Haynesworth, chances are you don't know a damn thing about football- Barno1
So Barno1, are you saying Mike Shanahan does not know anything about football? Because he is one of the people that think we should trade Albert! Albert just wanted a big pay day ( which he got, now that was stupid on the Redskins part) and now he has no more motivation, he is dead weight. So no matter if you pay him a dollar or 20 million if he is not going to contribute its time to move on...

Posted by: Alxander95 | April 7, 2010 9:10 AM

Source: No Haynesworth trade in worksEmail Print Comments 4Share3 retweet 13By Adam Schefter
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Despite multiple reports that the Washington Redskins are determined to trade defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, a high-ranking Redskins source insisted the team is not.


Haynesworth

The source said Haynesworth is, and will continue to be, the Redskins' starting nose tackle.

Haynesworth's name has not come up in any trade discussions since March 31, when Washington and Philadelphia discussed a potential deal for quarterback Donovan McNabb, according to the source.

Monday, sources told ESPN the Redskins offered in one of their first attempts to land McNabb, but that the Eagles were not interested. The two teams completed the trade sending McNabb to Washington on Sunday.

As the most highly-sought free agent of 2009, Haynesworth signed a $100 million contract with the Redskins, including $41 million in guaranteed money. Haynesworth will earn a guaranteed $3.6 million in 2010 and $5.4 million in 2011.

Adam Schefter is an ESPN NFL Insider.

You DO NOT trade someone after you pay him $32 Million. You also don't trade a 29 year old Monster of a player.

Posted by: ryan_conaway | April 7, 2010 9:20 AM

Snyderrato at it's typical worst. Lose him.

Posted by: ridgely1 | April 7, 2010 9:34 AM

I would trade Haynesworth to Buffalo for a 7th round pick just to see him on the sideline with snow on his head & a frozen O2 mask on his face.

Posted by: birdytom | April 7, 2010 9:45 AM

BARNO1 you are 73% idiot. We made a stupid move last year by signing him. If we have the chance to move him now we should, recoup some draft picks and move on. Lets not forget that Cerrato who is a 100% idiot is the one who wanted to go out and get him. He is lazy, fat, and out of shape. Get rid of Slobsworth.

BARNO1 now that I have read your post completely you are a 100% idiot right there with Cerrato. He was out of shape all year. 40% of the plays he was on the sidelines huffing through an air mask. And when have you ever seen a player being taken off the field on a cart and then all of a sudden he comes back out and play again? He is a take the money and run guy. Scratch that, take the money and walk guy. It is you who has the short memory. IDIOT

Posted by: ThanxPhilly | April 7, 2010 10:04 AM

Barno1: Who are the 73 idiots who said trade him? Yeah, let's pay him $30 million dollars for 12 games and THEN trade him, that's the ticket!
Is that how are you going to raise and poise your fat AZZ child in your house "idiots". Let you loose and go to the wood to do your own stuff, don't stay around and mess up whole team...

Posted by: bigskin04 | April 7, 2010 10:17 AM

This is an unanswerable question until we know what we'd get in return. Trade him for nothing? Probably not. But for a draft pick or decent player or two? Absolutely. You can't just ask unconditional questions like that, they make no sense.

Personally, I don't care about the money, it's Snyder's. I just want a good player or some picks, don't care how we get them.

Posted by: RIP-21 | April 7, 2010 10:38 AM

I would love to play football if I had Albert's talent. For $100 Million I would play any position and move my family and trainers to Virginia. I respect the good players that earn their contracts but Fat Albert is a jerk. With his agent and cadre of lawyers he can twist his contract any way he wants. Fat Albert will do the minimum effort it takes to get paid. I blame Wonderboy Snyder for getting fleeced by a conniving Fat Albert.

Posted by: jercha | April 7, 2010 10:43 AM

I use that 'North Dallas Forty' quote quite often because it really does explain the labor vs management mentality of Pro Sports.

They have to right the ship and that means cleaning all the barnacles off the bottom and getting 'true'. They cannot continue compounding bad decisions by making worse decisions. Keeping a malcontent or adding a malcontent is just that. They have kept one (Tortoise), added one (Johnson) and may add another (Marshall) while trying to jettison one (AH).

Jury is still out on this 'think tank'

Posted by: kahlua87 | April 7, 2010 10:58 AM

No doubt he can play when he wants too. This is about attitude. You pay someone that kind of money, you expect him to play hard, be a team leader (that means showing up to all voluntary meetings and workouts), and do what the coaches say do. If these articles are correct about him refusing to do certain things, trade him. Problem is we are in the same boat with him, as with JC. Talented player that everyone knows we are wanting to get rid of. Is a buyers market. True, he will be in demand, but we are dealing from a weak position.

Posted by: skins50 | April 7, 2010 11:21 AM

Uncapped year - don't sweat Dan's $ - even if he's going less than full out because of an "attitude" he's better than 75% of what's out there.

Posted by: ElYeah | April 7, 2010 11:31 AM

I agree we should trade him. Sure, I know he can dominate a game but, he hasn't for us. Instead he dominates the media with his selfish attitude. Let's get something for him and move forward. "You gotta know when to hold and know when to fold". Hopefully, Allen and Shanahan are trying to build a team of "football players" and not one of "football prima donnas" that we faithful have endured for to long.

Posted by: budandjoyce1 | April 7, 2010 11:41 AM

Haynesworth represents the utter HUBRIS of the Cerrato era. NO player is worth that kind of money. And shame on Snyder for allowing this waste! Sure, his presence on the line improved the pass rush. But in a 3-4, if he won't play nose tackle, what good is he? Shanahan can't start his tenure by indulging this prima donna, or he'll lose control of the locker room. If Snyder's willing to take the financial hit, we should trade him for some O-line help, an LB and/or a FS. Right away!

Posted by: DCtoDE | April 7, 2010 11:59 AM

The money spent is a sunk cost...the real question is do you want to spend $9 mill more over the next two years to have him on the team? I'll go with Shanahan that having this guy be a disruptive force in the locker room is not worth what he gives you as a disruptive force in the locker room.

Blame Vinny for rushing to grossly overpay this guy.

Posted by: sollazo | April 7, 2010 12:27 PM

It depends on the trade. If there is a good bounty of picks or we can swap him for a promising OT then essentially the Redskins will have just used a Madden technique in real-life. Buy the best free agent available and then trade him for picks.

Look at this way. We wouldn't be losing player that we had invested draft picks in. We would effectively be buying draft picks and/or players from another team.

This will only ever work during an uncapped year, we might as well take the opportunity.

Haynesworth was actually pretty good last year. He didn't pick up great stats last year, but other players had better years than normal because of all the blockers offensive co-ordinators set on Haynesworth.

He did look a touch out of shape, but as a 330lber who played the second most defensive snaps of any Redskin linemen and spent most of that time facing double teams it is probably totally unreasonable to expect that he wouldn't get winded. You can't be 330lbs and a superbly conditioned athlete unless you're about 8ft tall.

He is a good player, who had a decent year in a system that was never going to get him a lot of sacks. He should have some trade value, and I for one would have no problem with Dan Snyder giving him 32-million dollars for one year, if we can trade that cash in for early round draft picks.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | April 7, 2010 12:37 PM

Another wasted free (loader) agent signing. 4-12 season, 0-6 NFC east last year

He got 21 million dollars for what?!?!?!

So he can tell the coaches & management what he aint going to do??

Posted by: dc4life | April 7, 2010 12:54 PM

SNYDER + CERRATO = DISASTER
Snyder+ Bruce Allen = HeadButting
Snyder+ Bruce Allen + Mike Shanahan = 8-8

Snyder without Redskins = PRICELESS!!!!

Posted by: wagenstill | April 7, 2010 12:56 PM

um, someone said let Snyder pay $100m to learn a lesson.

Snyder doesn't learn lessons, regardless of how much money he spends...

Deion, Bruce, Albert, Jason, who's next? (They haven't overpaid DM... Yet! Sidenote: They are negotiating a contract extension with DM, expect it to come in at around at least $500 million ;) )

Posted by: ey22314 | April 7, 2010 1:03 PM

You people are insane. Of course we overpaid Haynesworth but we've already given him the biggest portions of that money. Just because he shouldn't be the highest paid D player in the NFL doesnt mean he's greeedy or lazy for taking the money. You would take it to. The fact is he is still the best DT in football, and how skins fans are desperate enough to throw a guy like him away is beyond me. Albert is a complete beast and the best player on our D this year aside from maybe Orakpo. Why do 3 out 4 people think he should just get traded away for some measly draft pick or something?

Posted by: bosshog7169 | April 7, 2010 1:56 PM

Regardless on the stance on a potential trade, its tough to like the way the organization continues to operate. With their leaks and complaining, the Skins show amazing ability to lower the potential trade value of their players. Between JC and AH, they have cost themselves at least a couple rounds of overall value.

AH should be worth a Brandon Marshall plus a 2nd and maybe even a 4th. They could have shopped him under the guise of "new coach, new GM, new philosophy", but instead they poisoned the well by bad mouthing him in the press and letting it be known that Shanahan doesn't want him around. It's stupid. Meanwhile, they sign a malcontent like Larry Johnson. Where is the consistency there?

JC is a young, experienced QB who has gotten better every year - he should be worth at least a late 2nd. As it stands, the Skins will be very lucky to get a 3rd for him, will probably get a 4th. That's terrible.

Meanwhile, the classless way they treated Campbell has to serve as a red flag to potential free agents. Not only do they decrease the potential value of the players, they decrease the potential value of the team.

Posted by: CommieX | April 7, 2010 2:57 PM

Look,it's obvious that Albert likes his millions more than he likes to be a TRUE team player,it appears that everyone else is making that commitment, it's a brotherhood !! Oh Yea, it's now 25% Nae/ 75% Yae,I'm in the 75% club.heeeey heeeey heey

Posted by: killerskunk63 | April 7, 2010 4:12 PM

barno = vinny cerrato

Posted by: BMACattack | April 7, 2010 7:12 PM

Haynesworth made the defense better last year an he was freaking out of shape...Ok so the guy gets a personal trainer and vowed to come back in shape he made this comittment before Shanhan got here ..These are voluntary workouts!!!!!!!! And what;s wrong with bending a little Shanny if Haynesworth is more disruptive on the edge play him there .....

Also good point my man:Reality is Redskins fans are the most fickle fans with the shortest memories ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
Guy is a stud and great value to the community as well (does tons of work for charity and donates tons of his money and time as well).
bottom line is he'll be here next year unless Tennessee makes a big offer to get him back.

Posted by: BeatDontStop | April 7, 2010 8:41 PM

A great player consistently giving 75% on the field and in training needs to go. Building a team means sacrificing the individual for the greater good. See if the Crazy Al will bite.

Posted by: minorthread | April 7, 2010 9:54 PM

We need team players not self serving knaves.

Posted by: ffordjr1 | April 7, 2010 11:21 PM

Haynesworth is a bum of the first order. Granted he can clog the middle of the line of scrimmage and he typically gets double teamed, yet due to his conditioning he rarely makes 2 downs per set, and the transgression of stomping the helmet less Dallas Cowboy center a number of years ago clearly ranks high in dirty, nasty, mean players. WTF was Dannyboy thinking and hopefully he will stay out of the way on draft day otherwise our team is doomed again.

Posted by: james.lawsonjr@comcast.net | April 8, 2010 1:01 AM

Trade him, cut him or put him on the practice squad. He is a cancer. I prefer that they get him out of here immediately. He's a huge distraction and he's not even here! I will lose all respect for Shanahan if he is on the team this season. I'm pretty sure he will retire if we cut him; Snyder made sure he is set for life.

Posted by: papple | April 8, 2010 6:43 AM

I'm glad it is not my money! Send him packing! He should grow up, but he won't. I might give him a second chance if he came to the workouts today. The NFL should make all workouts mandatory! The guy gets a $100,000,000.00 contract and this is how he acts. Things will only get worse. Mike won't put up with this big immature baby!

Posted by: truckmclaren | April 8, 2010 7:04 AM

they're sending the right message and testing Albert's actual value.....high enough offer,take it....no legit offers,tell Albert....rest of team already got the message....I didn't vote,not enuff options

Posted by: devans_design | April 8, 2010 7:22 AM

It really does not matter if Haynesworth stays or leaves the team, there is no offensive line. Redskins win 2 or 3 more games this season.

Posted by: lec2 | April 8, 2010 7:56 AM

I voted yes to trade but we should not trade unless we can get somewhat comparable draft picks/other players.

We should just not trade him for a 7th round pick.

Posted by: fearturtle44 | April 8, 2010 8:07 AM

The guy was fat, out of shape and taken off the field more times than any player in Redskin history. How many times was he carted off, people thought he was either dead or broke something, only to come back in ten minutes later? If you think that doesnt say out of shape your a moron. I have tried to block out last season, but I'm pretty sure he missed three straight division games when several people were quoted as saying he could have played. F him.

New coach comes in, new GM comes in - first thing he says is I'm not coming to work out with the team and I dont want to play nose in the 3 4. You are supposed to be a leader on this team. Is that how you show it? Well you know what Albert - go F your self you worthless fat overpriced piece of trash. You suck.

Posted by: capsfansince74 | April 8, 2010 8:36 AM

Trade Shanahan, and Allen, obvious they're brilliant moves have improved the team SO MUCH!

Posted by: deeprods | April 8, 2010 8:40 AM

The Snyderato mistake to bring Haynesworth to Washington in the first place will be reflected in the NFL's first $10 Budweiser at Fedex Field.

Haynesworth isn't willing to take on blockers as a NT? It's a good thing he can afford a box of tissues.

For $41,000,000 in guaranteed cash, Haynesworth should be willing to wash jock straps.

Stop whining and play some football.

Posted by: clandestinetomcat | April 8, 2010 8:41 AM

He's a load. The Skins just paid him 21 million, they owe him another 9. They offered to pay THAT and throw him in on the McNabb trade and Philly would have none of it. They're going to have to cut him unconditionally to get rid of himm freeing him to do it to someone else. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Hopefully these things won't happen in the future. One thing sure, Shanahan isn't gonna put up with it. Portis is next. Gone.

Posted by: JamesChristian | April 8, 2010 8:56 AM

I say send him packing. Shanahan is trying to develope a culture of winning and with that comes discipline. All he is asking Haynesworth to do is workout with his teammates...I think for $21 mill he could do that. He is supposed to be a professional, if the coach asks him to play NT...I think for $21 mill he could do that. I agree with CLANDESTINETOMCAT, Haynesworth is a big "FAT" crybaby.

Posted by: JMUDUKE44 | April 8, 2010 10:21 AM

Who are the 73 idiots who said trade him? Yeah, let's pay him $30 million dollars for 12 games and THEN trade him, that's the ticket!

Posted by: Barno1 | April 6, 2010 8:05 PM

Its 73% not 73 people. I think we now know who the idiot is. lmao

POSTED BY: CLWALKER1906 | APRIL 6, 2010 8:37 PM

When I posted, 105 people had voted and it said 70%. You are a moron.

Posted by: Barno1 | April 6, 2010 10:02 PM

Ok further proving your stupidity. I guess in bizarro world 73=105. Do yourself a favor genius just stop posting. lol

Posted by: clwalker1906 | April 6, 2010 10:25 PM

It's hard to believe there are people as stupid as clwalker1906 who are still able to operate a computer. I never said there were 105 people that voted YES. I said there were 73 people that voted for trading Haynesworth. This was based on there being 105 people at the time I posted that voted and 70% of them voting YES. Do the math you unbelievable moron. 70% of 105 = 73.5

Please. Stop. Posting.

Posted by: Barno1 | April 8, 2010 11:01 AM

BARNO1,

Please stop posting you are the biggest idiot I have seen write on this board. Everything you say make you look dumber and dumber. You opinions are obviously diluted with some sort of backard source of information. I don't know where you are getting any of your info. My guess is that you have never even watched a Redskins game if you think Haynesworth is worth the money.

Please see my previous post on this message board to back it up.

Once again you are an idiot

Posted by: ThanxPhilly | April 8, 2010 11:17 AM

If we can't trade him, cut his fat, lazy ass. Dan made Coles a non-factor for a year before sending his ass back to the Jets. Do the same with Fat Al. That dude is pure cancer. His fat ass belongs in Oakland

Posted by: spyle | April 8, 2010 11:43 AM

Thanxphilly,

Please point to anywhere where I said Haynesworth is "worth the money." If you can provide this quote from me, then maybe your comment will have some semblance of relevance.

I simply asked who are the morons who think we should/will trade a guy AFTER paying him a $20+ million dollar bonus. It's not going to happen. Period. So why on earth even have this discussion. It's a waste of everyone's time.

Posted by: Barno1 | April 8, 2010 12:34 PM

You guys crack me up. The real idiots are the guys who support this crap, you, the fan who supports this garbage by buying their stuff. Snyder is spending the money you guys are giving him. Yes you. Believe it.

Barno. Your argument is too weak to sustain. What you are saying is that the Skins should throw more good money after bad. They already expended the millions you speak of, but should they keep on paying a guy who is not giving a 100%? I would say, perform or out of town you go. What is the use on having someone who can walk on water but doesn't do it when needed?

Posted by: hock1 | April 8, 2010 1:09 PM

Hock1, saying he "is not giving a (sic) 100%" is purely subjective. I believe he gives 100%, you believe he doesn't. Doesn't mean either one of us is right.

What I think many of the rabid Redskins fans on this site (and WaPo reporters as well) don't realize is is that defensive tackles do not play every down. They are not supposed to, and Hayneworth coming in and out of the game last year was not uncommon for players at his position.

And I can't help but laugh at those attacking him for getting carted off the field and coming back to play. Did you ever stop to think that perhaps he was in a lot of pain and needed to be carted off the field? And then did you ever stop to think that perhaps he played through that pain when he returned to the game? Sheesh.

As for whether he is still a great defensive tackle, I said it before and I'll say it again: if you think he isn't among the top 2 or 3 best defensive tackles in the NFL you simply do not know football. Period. There is a reason that Andre Carter and Brian Orakpo got 22 sacks last year...it was no coincidence that the highest sack total the Redskins have had in years came in the first year that Haynesworth joined the team.

Get a grip people.

Posted by: Barno1 | April 8, 2010 1:27 PM

We already paid him the big bucks, the rest is chump change, KEEP HIM, LET HIM PLAY 2ND AND 3RD DOWNS.

Posted by: eric40 | April 8, 2010 4:57 PM

Does nobody see the contradiction in the Skins complaining about AH being a bad teammate/disrespectful to coaches, while they sign Larry Johnson? Do the Skins want team players, or does Shanahan want his ego stroked? Seems like more of the latter, to me.

Posted by: CommieX | April 8, 2010 5:27 PM

Commie, perhaps you could point us to the direct quotes from the "skins complaining about AH being a bad teammate/disrepectful to coaches, while they sign Larry Johnson". I somehow missed those specific quotes.

Thanks in advance for providing a link.

Posted by: Barno1 | April 8, 2010 7:36 PM

@Barno - Are you new to Washington or something? You think people always talk on-record and allow themselves to be quoted? To quote Mambo Sauce,"Welcome to DC".

Are you under the impression that reporters are making up stories about AH being offered in at least one trade? Making up stories about Shanahan being mad that AH is working out on his own rather than with the team? Inventing unnamed team sources out of whole cloth, and just cranking out fiction under the guise of reporting? Why are you on a newpaper's website if you have such little faith in what they report?

Also, do you really need a link to a quote to know the Skins signed Larry Johnson?

Posted by: CommieX | April 8, 2010 8:57 PM

Commie,

I was born in DC, how bout you? You said that the skins were complaining about AH being a bad teammate and disrespectful to coaches and thus this was hypocritical bc they signed LJ, but I'm just not sure where you got this from bc I hadn't seen that anywhere... so if you had something specific which you could point to from a member of the Skins front office or coaching staff that said he was a "bad teammate" or had been "disrespecting coaches" or even an anonymous comment from Skins management that had been reported as such, I would be very interested in reading it.

Otherwise, I think we both know you just invented that.

Posted by: Barno1 | April 8, 2010 9:38 PM

What do I care what Snyder pays the players. His salary, to me, has nothing to do with his ability to play football. For me, Carter and Orakpo don't get 11 sacks each without Haynesworth in the middle. Will that be the case in the 3-4? Maybe...Maybe not. As a Redskin fan, all I want is for the team to play well. If Haynesworth helps them do that, then keep him. If he is a cancer in the locker room and is on the ground after every play, then maybe they should trade him.

My thing is for everyone to stop using his salary as a reason for whining. I'd certainly take 100 million for my job if I had the chance. Don't hate the player; play the game yourself and get yours.

Posted by: mullinga | April 9, 2010 6:25 AM

It's so funny how people get upset with NFL players who don't show up for voluntary events HEY PEOPLE! It's Voluntary! If you want them them to show up with out question then make it mandatory period. hey AH I have gone through the same thing and I was only making $20 bucks an hr, supervisor would ask for people to voluntary to work the weekend and when I wouldn't volunteer, I was said to not be a team player and I say oh well hey take the money and report when it's mandatory and forget all the hatters. H.T.T.R!

Posted by: cdslee1 | April 11, 2010 1:31 AM

Trade "Fat Boy" and JC to ST. Louis for the 1st pick in the draft along with a number 3 pick next year. Then we get 2 Number 1 picks which only DANNY BOY has the ability to pay for....

Posted by: mmagua | April 11, 2010 2:13 PM

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