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Doctors have injected millions of human embryonic stem cells into a patient partially paralyzed by a spinal cord injury, marking the beginning of the first carefully designed attempt to test the promising but controversial therapy, officials announced Monday.

Seven sites are participating in the study, which is primarily aimed at testing whether the therapy is safe. Doctors will also conduct tests to see whether the treatment restores sensation or enables the patient to regain movement. Read the full story.

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I hope all of you who are against stem cell research get a disease that can only be treated with medication developed through stem cell research.

Then we'll see how against it you are. Hypocrites!

Posted by: solsticebelle | August 23, 2010 8:44 PM

Please someon,e stop these religous zealots from interferring with important medical research.

Posted by: raca1234 | August 23, 2010 9:36 PM

There ARE no "cons"...except the fundamentalist and ideological con-jobs espoused by morons.

Posted by: wcmillionairre | August 23, 2010 9:55 PM

The fact is no matter how much you sugar coat it embryonic stem cell research destroys embryos which means it destroys human life. If we're going to use embryos for research because they are going to be discarded anyway, why don't we also conduct research on bums and whinos? After all they have been discarded by society. Besides with all of the embryos that have been destroyed for miracle cures in over a decade of research not a single one has materialized. As a matter of fact adult stem cell reasearch has been much more promising and doesn't result in the deaths of human beings.

Posted by: RobT1 | August 23, 2010 10:18 PM

If life is "priceless" why do we have premiums on life insurance?

Posted by: callosumlink | August 23, 2010 10:20 PM

Hey Robt1,

Go to the fifth floor, section B, of the Weinberg Building at Johns Hopkins to see the "miracles" being performed with stem cells. You have zero idea what you're talking about. Zero. Zilch. I have seen people with MS have their conditions reversed... I have seen leukemics cured... I have seen aplastic anemics cured... Talk to the families in the waiting room and see how they feel about your obstructionist stance.

Posted by: vn11701 | August 23, 2010 10:31 PM

I truly despise the Religious Right in this country. They are the single greatest threat to liberty and health in the United STates.

I'm going to pray to their god that they get an incurable disease that could be prevented or cured by using stem cell research.

Dear God, please strike down your Fundamentalist followers with horrible diseases. Amen.

Posted by: Please_Fix_VAs_Roads | August 23, 2010 10:42 PM

Again, the usual obfuscation of terms. ESC (embryonic stem cells) are the supposed magic button, but there's been no benefits whatsoever derived from them. ASC (adult stem cells) are kind of the red headed step child here, and the Leftwingtards don't like them, but they are the only kind that's seen HUMAN benefits.

For all the promise of ESCs, that they could be triggered to grow new organs for transplants, to the idea you could take any ESC derived organ and transplant it into any human without tissue rejection, they simply haven't panned out whether in human trials or animal trials.

That's most likely a problem in "epigenetic" controls ~ that unless you raise up a total critter you really aren't going to get the stem cells you want ~

When you simply take your own "adult stem cells" and reprogram them by setting them back to an earlier form, you eliminate all the tissue rejection issues AND they can be grown in culture to create tissues you can use.

Why anybody would want to continue to confound ESC and ASC technologies and processes when they've come to mean such incredibly different things is hard to believe.

I guess there are luddites and people who believe in magic everywhere though.

Be best if we could eliminate them, but they tell me it wouldn't be ethical.

Posted by: muawiyah | August 23, 2010 11:02 PM

Look at some of the vile comments above, like the post made by SOLSTICEBELLE. What is the point of wishing a dreadful disease on someone else. Get some therapy. If they are serious, comments like that could only be made by people who have been duped by irresponsible medical opportunists into thinking there are easy cures for tragic diseases out there based somehow on pluripotent stem cells just waiting to be scooped up by hoards of humanitarian researchers. In reality people who spread such false information probably just want to patent your genes. Really, the research money could be better spent elsewhere. If researchers had not been prompted to look for sources of adult stem cells, and to try to use them for therapy, then advances in use of those cells in neurology, cardiology, dermatology and elsewhere would never have occurred. The basic research needed to understand cellular differentiation, that has exploded through study of adult stem cells, would not have taken place, and the incremental gains of knowledge needed to fully understand replication of complex differentiated mammalian cells would not be taking place now. Adult stem cells have been found in all the tissues. Studying them first is more important, and more likely to yield useful knowledge than studying the earliest germ cells.

Posted by: drray-yup | August 23, 2010 11:18 PM

There are no "cons" you mentally deficient cretins!

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Posted by: itkonlyyou248 | August 23, 2010 11:50 PM

The only Con is the fevered superstitions minds of the ignorant and the deluded; pawns of the Evangelical Racketeers and the hate-spewing monsters of Murdock!

Posted by: CHAOTICIAN101 | August 24, 2010 12:20 AM

Again moralistic dogma has trumped science and medicine.

Posted by: chuck8 | August 24, 2010 12:22 AM

Again moralistic dogma has trumped science and medicine.

Chuck8

Yes, the judges ruling was the moral one, not the Frankenstein's that are wasting tax money on ESC. They have not produced one thing useful yet. Not a one. Meantime ASC have been used sucessfully for years in Europe. Money and time wasted on ESC just because the Dems prefer to use ESC because it fits into their idealogy that abortions are good because a fetus is a nothing. I can't see any other reason liberals would support something like ESC and waste money on dead end research, when the money would be better spent on cures that work using ASC.

Don't you liberals care about sick people and finding cures? Or are you so idealogically driven over abortion that you would support dead end research over real cures using ASC?
Liberals are the immoral ones.
Disgusting.

Posted by: betsy3 | August 24, 2010 1:25 AM

Hey Robt1,
Go to the fifth floor, section B, of the Weinberg Building at Johns Hopkins to see the "miracles" being performed with stem cells. You have zero idea what you're talking about. Zero. Zilch. I have seen people with MS have their conditions reversed... I have seen leukemics cured... I have seen aplastic anemics cured... Talk to the families in the waiting room and see how they feel about your obstructionist stance.
Posted by: vn11701
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VN11701, they are using ADULT STEM CELLS!!!
No one anywhere is using ESC.
Get a grip, you sound like an idiot.

Posted by: betsy3 | August 24, 2010 1:28 AM

People who want to ban research because someone said that some magic dead guy would not like it are too stupid to form opinions worth listening to about the subject.

Posted by: Nymous | August 24, 2010 4:53 AM

usa will now fall behind in medical research. while the stupid religies block stem cell research in usa, other countries are continuing their work in this area.
when new medical treatments are developed, the money and the jobs will go to UK, Finland, Sweden, etc. and all the other advanced countries that are zooming ahead in this area.
science in usa is blocked by idiots.
in the rest of the world, students study biology, while in many parts of usa, all they get is more bible talk. evolution? not for us, the morons prefer to think that adam and eve rode to church on the back of a dinosaur.

Posted by: inedal | August 24, 2010 5:45 AM

The moral ignorance and depravity of those who advocate destruction of human beings for purposes of experimentation is far more terrifying than any disease. Indeed, it is the worst sickness.

Posted by: thebump | August 24, 2010 6:24 AM

I also want to see this joke of a judge and his supporters all stricken with Parkinsons and Diabetes in the most severe forms. They deserve it; the millions of people whose suffering might be helped by this research do not deserve this cruelty masquerading as "jurisprudence" and "religion".

Posted by: skylark1 | August 24, 2010 6:26 AM

This "poll" is meaningless not only because all such online "polls" are, but also because it fails to differentiate adult versus embryonic stem cell research.

Posted by: thebump | August 24, 2010 6:29 AM

Is this really a yes or no question? Any intelligent person is going to answer yes. In a way it is sort of encouraging to see that only fifteen percent of the population (Those who voted no) are morons, because that is what they are, morons. Why? Well, let us see. We have some embryos here. We can either destroy them or use them for promising research to cure a number of diseases. Now what should we do, what should we do?

Like I said, you vote no, you are a moron. Case closed.

Posted by: nyrunner101 | August 24, 2010 8:18 AM

Will all the religious nuts please move to Texas. Thank you!

Posted by: bozhogg | August 24, 2010 8:22 AM

It's useful to remember one fact.

Religion has been wrong about everything and every stance it/they has/have taken.

Cause of lightening/thunder What makes the sun come up and go back down What causes seasons What causes floods/hurricanes Flat earth/round earth The minor case of sun around earth "Heavenly bodies" are "perfect" till they saw craters on the moon and rings around saturn Witches Common disease and cures for them Inferiority of Women Inferiority of some races/some people Superiority of races/some people etc. etc.

TG

Posted by: TechieGuy | August 24, 2010 8:33 AM

Someone who has no cure for a serious disease, no clue to a cure for the disease, who is unable to promise even making progress on a cure to the disease, expresses his or her wish that someone else will have to suffer with the disease, and that will make it better. How will that help? It is reminiscent of the idea advocated by some with HIV that they ought to spread the disease around as much as possible, because then somebody is sure to help them. The reasoning is so faulty that one has to wonder whether the person espousing it has some kind of delirium. The only thing accomplished by such vitriol is that the person gets it off his or her chest. The person has a need to say something hateful and vile to feel better somehow. Spouting that kind of nasty provocative rhetoric is never going to cure anything, or even free anyone else to cure anything. Such negativity is an end in itself. If wishing for a cure would make it so, if throwing money at a problem helped, all the diseases would be history. We are waiting for brilliance. We are hoping for dedication. We are wishing for serendipity. There is always more than one solution to any problem, like there was for polio. We must use the tools we have.

Posted by: drray-yup | August 24, 2010 8:50 AM

Idiots. We can do exactly the same tests with skin cells so why invite controversy when it's not needed?

Posted by: leafgreen | August 24, 2010 11:34 AM

1. Completely flawed poll, in that it asks about the pros/cons of stem cell research, not embryonic stem cell research.

Which, by the way, is not promising WHATSOEVER!!

Cures and treatments are being developed by every type of stem cell research EXCEPT embryonic stem cells.

This whole debate for the past decade has been a boondoggle, and demonstrates who the REAL opponents of science are in America (hint: it's not the conservatives).

Posted by: etpietro | August 24, 2010 12:16 PM

To all those folks who are worried about the research destroying human life: here's a thought for you. If you're so darn worried about saving human lives, what say you end your own. That way, there will be more resources available to the rest of us. Come on all you Christians out there - follow the example set by your Lord and Saviour - sacrifice your lives for others.

Posted by: Nemo5 | August 24, 2010 12:17 PM

first of all, DOD, not NIH, funnels most of the federal funds directed at stem cell research.

the NIH $ goes to universities, hospitals and a small # of non-profits.

the DOD money - well - you won't believe me, so you'll just have to do the research yourselves.

there is a 0% chance DOD is going to pay any attention to this ruling.

Posted by: boblesch | August 24, 2010 12:23 PM

George W Bush spends billions of taxpayer dollars to destroy hundreds of thousands of lives in the US, middle east and around the world. But he outlaws spending taxpayer money that destroys embryos. We are brain-dead.

WHEN DOES BUSH STOP BEING OUR PRESIDENT?!?!?!?!?! HELP!!!

Posted by: LawsLuvr | August 24, 2010 12:29 PM

The Talibangelicals are at it again. Trying to deny American's advanced medical life saving opportunities. These jokers work for the devil.

Posted by: Maddogg | August 24, 2010 1:32 PM

I am glad the difference has been pointed out: it is ASCs that have brought the "miracle cures", not ESCs. So those of you who hunger for ESCs as your hope for miracle cures, are not only ignorant, you are like a modern day replay of the "Donation of Constantine", a medieval forgery describing a wicked cure evil doctors were trying to talk Constantine into trying, namely, to bathe in the blood of just-slaughtered innocent infants.

But where the medieval forgery was true to life was: Constantine refused such a wicked cure, sparing the life of the infants. You ESC proponents, on the other hand, refuse to do the same.

Posted by: Syllogizer | August 24, 2010 1:41 PM

Nobody posting here knows what the outcome of stem cell research might be. Certainly research of all kinds leads to more dead ends than breakthroughs. The courts decision, as I understand it, hinged on whether the administration was following the law in its guidance or not. That is legal hairsplitting that most of us are unqualified to judge as well.

Of course, that won't stop most folks hereabouts from weighing in on either subject.

Posted by: edbyronadams | August 24, 2010 1:45 PM

Human life does not begin until the fetus is viable outside the womb. This whole thing is a case of religious zealots controling the lives of reasonable people.

Posted by: DavidinDallas | August 24, 2010 1:48 PM

The New United States Constitution will be unveiled by the Republicans following their wins in November:

In order to form more perfect union the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Amendment 1

The right of women to vote and have abortions shall be illegal.

Amendment 2

The rights of property owners shall be decided by the crowd.

Amendment 3

All spending by Democrats must be paid for. All spending by Republicans need not be paid for.

Amendment 4

Jesus shall be the national symbol.

Amendment 5

Inter-racial marriages shall be illegal.

Amendment 6

Gay and Lesbian marriages shall be illegal.

Amendment 7

Illegal aliens shall be placed in Ghettos awaiting the Final Solution.

Amendment 8 (Talibangelical Amendment)

Only blue-eyed blonde Protestant Christians shall be a citizen of the US.

Amendment 9 (Zerological Amendment)

All citizens and others will be required to kneel in the direction of Ground Zero twice a day at prescribed hours and pray.

Amendment 10 (DUH Amendment)

Being a red-neck hick is in.

Amendment 11

Salmonella, Oil Spills, and Financial Collapses being good for the nation free enterprise will be free of regulation.


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at
Boehner, DC

Posted by: Maddogg | August 24, 2010 2:06 PM

Who in God's name put some lame brain judge in charge of medical research? Let me guess: the Talaban-gelicals

Posted by: Maddogg | August 24, 2010 2:09 PM

Does this lame brain judge declare, for all the world to see, that life begins as a embryo? That is purely a Talaban-gelical belief.

Posted by: Maddogg | August 24, 2010 2:12 PM

solsticebelle--could you please name one successful drug that was developed through stem cell research? Don't know any? I thought so.

Posted by: kavalair | August 24, 2010 2:20 PM

There are similar examples. For instance many people in the far East believe that body parts of tigers are effective against certain diseases. Consequently a lot of poaching of tigers is going on in India and tigers are being killed in large numbers.

I wonder how other people think
a) it is OK to kill both tigers and human embryos
b) it is OK to kill embryos but not tigers
c) it is OK to kill tigers but not embryos
and
d) it is not OK to kill either.
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b) is the liberal version, c) is the conservative version, and d) is the Gandhian version.

Any suggestions for a name for a)?

I personally favor d). During the last many years, we have discovered many cures for many diseases. We no doubt will discover more. It is inhuman to start killing human embryos to have "even more progress".

Posted by: rohit57 | August 24, 2010 2:25 PM

I hope all of you who are against stem cell research get a disease that can only be treated with medication developed through stem cell research.
Then we'll see how against it you are. Hypocrites!
Posted by: solsticebelle
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If I do have a disease I will not want to kill another human being in order to save myself.

It might surprise you that some people are moral. But if you were moral yourself, it would not be a surprise.

Posted by: rohit57 | August 24, 2010 2:27 PM

Here's a solution; if you are in favor of embryonic stem cell research, then you sign a form and your taxes are raised to support it. If you do not approve of it, then you sign a form and your taxes are not raised. Those who approve can benefit from the research. Those who don't sign the form don't benefit from the research.

Posted by: camera_eye_11 | August 24, 2010 2:34 PM

Time for this nitwit judge to keep his Christian Taliban-gelical beliefs out of court decisions.

Posted by: Maddogg | August 24, 2010 2:51 PM

Sheesh - All this ignorant prattle about human life!

What do YOU mean when YOU use the term "Human Life"? Doesn't it mean pretty well what it says? Doesn't it mean human and alive? Isn't anything that's human and alive Human Life?

If your Right-to-Life group is really interested in preserving human life, why aren't you insisting that doctors stop removing gangrenous toes, inflamed appendixes, and tumors from womens breasts. These things are all human life, but you've consistently failed to say what you mean.

Your talibangelical belief that that embryo is a human being is exactly that - a BELIEF! You're attempting to do just what the Taliban did - force your beliefs on everyone else!!

(Note to MADDOGG: Thanks for a new and most descriptive word!)

Posted by: dunkberg | August 24, 2010 3:28 PM

"Do the benefits of stem cell research outweigh the cons?"

This question is overly simplistic. Obviously, stem cell research has the potential for great benefits. But do these benefits outweigh the cons? Depends on what the "cons" are. If people are creating embryos for the purpose of destroying them, then no, the evils outweigh the benefits. In many ways, this is worse than an abortion, because it is intentionally creating a potential life in order to destroy it. Abortions are usually the result of the unintentional creation of an embryo. Maybe that's OK, maybe it's not ... but an intentional act is certainly worse.

But . . . if the embryos are the result of an in vitro fertilization process that creates hundreds of unwanted embryos and then throws them away ... then, isn't just wasting them a sin? Why not use them for the betterment of mankind?

Sorry, but nuance matters.

As an aside, why is it that the anti-abortion types all seem to be OK with fertility clinics? If life starts at conception, then don't fertility clinics destroy (create first, of course, but then destroy) more lives than any abortion clinic? Just a thought as to where the anger should be directed.

Perhaps if more well-off people who can't conceive adopted from the less fortunate who can't care for their own, instead of selfishly creating dozens of embryos simply to let most of them die, perhaps then there would be a lot less abortions.

Posted by: tomguy1 | August 24, 2010 3:59 PM

It's a little challenging to know what to say to those who can't seen the difference between an artificially created embryo and a human being. I wonder if they see a difference between a chicken and an egg or between a book of matches and a house fire?

Posted by: jdnathan | August 24, 2010 4:23 PM

The court's only judgement was on the applicability of a law that banned federal funding of embryonic stem cell research. Whether the court's judgement was correct or not has nothing to do with a judgement on whether or not the research is desirable.
For all the emotional reactions, I doubt the outcome makes much real difference. Even without federal funding a substantial amount of embryonic stem cell research will still go on in the US. It will also still go on other places in the world. That research will be more than enough to establish whether or not this research has any real promise. My own belief is that this research is over hyped and that it will not provide the leading edge in the adoption of advanced biological technologies to human therapy or anything else.
Those wanting to maintain the belief that there is some instant of conception that establishes human life are already sinking in scientific quick sand. The rapid progress in advanced biochemical techniques over the next few decades is going to blur the difference between living organisms and human creations. One result will be the requirement for a new more subtle definition of the difference between what is alive and what is not. Another result is likely to be a wide range of advanced human therapies. The prospects for success with agents that humans engineer and fully understand is much better than trying to get results with embryonic stem cells without making the effort needed to completely understand how they work.

Posted by: dnjake | August 24, 2010 4:34 PM

The people that are trying to downplay the importance of embryonic stem cells in favor of adult stem cells are missing a major point. The only reason any research using ASC has worked is because they can compare them to the embryonic version. Scientists need to do research on the cells with the most potential which are the embryonic ones. Then they can use what they know to make adult stem cells behave in a useful way.

Posted by: hmmmm3 | August 24, 2010 4:58 PM

There is no reason to say no to this gift. God gifted some animals like frog and lizard to regrow, even human liver has it. So why not this? Whats the reason?

Posted by: ben29 | August 24, 2010 5:10 PM

The ideological idiots who somehow manage to impose such "religious" nonsense on their countrymen by means of "political" machinations involving mere "secular law" IN EFFECT SENTENCE THOUSANDS OF US ALL (AND IN MANY CASES ALSO EVEN SOME OF THEMSELVES) TO DEATH AND/OR DEVASTATION BY DISEASES AND CONDITIONS THAT COULD BE CURED/ALLEVIATED BY MEASURES THAT WE KNOW HOW TO PURSUE.

The AMAZING thing is that these fools actually seem to somehow imagine themselves to be "morally superior" to other folks.

A mass of protoplasm the size of the period at the end on this sentence is NOT a human being --- and CERTAINLY HAS NO POSSIBILITY OF EVEN EVER BECOMING ONE unless and until it would be IMPLANTED --- which CLEARLY DOES NOT (AND CANNOT) HAPPEN in the cases of MANY fertilized ova (any more than each and every insignificant ACORN could possibly develop into a GIANT OAK).

More generally, even a DEVELOPING fetus really is NOT actually human UNTIL THE ONSET OF CEREBROCORTICAL (BRAIN-WAVE) ACTIVITY --- and THAT does not occur UNTIL ABOUT THE THIRTIETH WEEK OF PREGNANCY!

People DESPERATELY need to OUTGROW the simplistic, childish notion that a human somehow suddenly springs into full-blown existence. Actually, it is a GRADUAL exercise, with milestone points and a myriad of things that can go wrong, along the way. It is simply FOOLISH, and GROSSLY UNREALISTIC of ANYBODY to try to cling to an "absolutistic" conception of the whole "bootstrapping" process.

Posted by: BirdsAbound | August 24, 2010 5:24 PM

from robt1: If we're going to use embryos for research because they are going to be discarded anyway, why don't we also conduct research on bums and whinos?
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Seems only YOU and your ilk are discarding bums and whinos. There are dozens of organizations trying to help them. But what can you expect from supposedly "pro-life" people? Once a fetus is outside the womb, they lose interest.

Posted by: victoriafalls100 | August 24, 2010 5:44 PM

Adult stem cell research has produced more and better results than embryonic stem cell lines ever have. Why if we can get better and more effective results without destroying anything would we prefer to destroy?

Posted by: jeighbird40 | August 24, 2010 6:26 PM

The U.S. is no longer the center of the scientific world. No matter what they say, opponents cannot hold back stem cell research. They'll just make it so that the medical advances such research provides will only be available in China, India, or less developed countries than those.

To me, it would be much better to do the research here under reasonable guidelines, guidelines other countries might not impose.

Posted by: tinyjab40 | August 24, 2010 6:40 PM

Special thanks to the extreme and fanatical brands of Christians who are clones of the Taliban, as well as that equally dangerous judge. You have harmed medical advancement and have dishonored your nation.

Posted by: revbookburn | August 24, 2010 6:46 PM

It is simply another right-wing attack on science, education, health care and the American people.

Does anyone really need more examples of "conservative" wars against humanity?

Posted by: BigTrees | August 24, 2010 7:10 PM

Diabetes ~ regarding the problem of the BETA CELL.

There is no precursor stem cell of any kind for the insulin producing BETA CELL.

You might find this piece interesting ~ http://asweetlife.org/a-sweet-life-staff/articles/the-regeneration-of-beta-cells/6648/

Part of the logic/illogic of seeking a Type 1 diabetes cure via ESC development is that it's an autoimmune disease anyway, and what it does to your own cells is nothing compared to what that disease is going to do to someone else's cells.

In fact, in all of us, the basic situation is that we have a regular and steady development of beta cells through a variety of methods, and as long as that development keeps ahead of our own immune system's depredations we have enough beta cells to make enough insulin to get along.

The "alpha cell" regeneration referenced in that article has its own problems ~ one of which is there are not very many alpha cells ~ on the other hand, we may have a better idea of where and how alpha cells are created than we do beta cells.

Waiting for ESC researchers to come up with a magic cure for Type 1 diabetes will see most of us dead long before any of them get near it. Besides, they're into the new research centers with the new laboratory equipment, the great lunchrooms, and the fatabulous new furniture in their new offices ~ oh, yeah, and their model quality receptionists and assistant staff members.

We know their type.

Posted by: muawiyah | August 24, 2010 8:51 PM

BIRDSABOUND ~ your basic argument is that the brain is the "seat of consciousness".

No one knows that.

We know it has something to do with sensory inputs and motor neuron activity, but the "seat of consciousness" may well be some form of electronic field buried in a cell at the base of your tongue.

Until we know do not presume to know.

Posted by: muawiyah | August 24, 2010 8:56 PM

This ruling won't stop stem cell research but it will help to accelerate the loss of the scientific research advantage of the U.S. in the world. We may all live to see the day when sick Americans line up to pay premium prices with a deflated dollar for foreign medical services.

Thanks your honour.

Posted by: TomMiller1 | August 24, 2010 9:09 PM

Looks like Barry missed the Short Bus AGAIN !!!

Posted by: thgirbla | August 24, 2010 10:00 PM

HMMMM3 ~ before this thread passes on to the great oblivion to which all internet threads are consigned, the problem with ESC stem cells is "creating them". It's really difficult ~ and so there are few, if any, such critters to compare to ASCs to see if you have the right one.

Here's how you get an ESC ~ you develop the embryo to the point where it's producing organs.

Hey, you can go to an adult who's already got organs to do that.

What they're doing with ASCs is going to an organ like skin that arises out of tissue that's also a predecessor to another organ, like the brain, and they find an ASC and deprogram it to an earlier stage. Then you can, presumably, use that ASC to grow some new nerve tissue to stuff into the brain WITHOUT the autoimmune reaction that would otherwise take place.

ESC research doesn't have to be done with human embryos of course. You can use animals to get done a lot of what you need. After all all mammals have at least 85% of the same genes we have ~ and even sponges have 70% ~ plus, it was just reported they have essentially the same sort of ASCs.

Every dollar spent on ESC research deprives ASC research of funding that can be used for CURES!

Posted by: muawiyah | August 24, 2010 10:29 PM

The fact they are destroyed when they become too old seems the same as the few lost during research, the implant procedure produces far more losses, will that be next?

Posted by: jameschirico | August 24, 2010 10:30 PM

I like that, Barry missed the short bus!
Anyway, we can't afford it. Let private comapnies or individuals donate their own funds. Whichever has the most promise will have the most funds. In this case the Gov is propping up ECS, which has not produced any cures. Meanwhile Euros have already created and marketed ACS cures which are now being used at John Hopkins and many other big name hospitals with good results.

Posted by: rickshawjim | August 24, 2010 10:32 PM

The pro abortion crowd can't stand it! embryos not being destroyed for research!!!
eeee eee eee
How can you liberals stand such a horrible outcome!!
OMG as if human life depended on ECS,
it doesn't and probably never will.
Liberalism is a mental illness

Posted by: rickshawjim | August 24, 2010 10:37 PM

Lets see, the "pros" are based in provable fact that can be observed directly, replicated, documented, photographed, & learned from. The results are aimed at people walking again, and healing the injured.

The "cons" have to do with what? Drivel that people make up. Someone claims to speak for a dead guy they claim was magical. They think, but can not in any way prove, that this magic dead guy would not approve of the injured being healed, and the lame being able to walk again.

Up until now, the only solution to this problem was people making wishes in their heads & out loud directed at the magic dead guy. That dead guy has with a great deal of consistency not cured anyone.

Really the only question I have for the people who claim to speak for the magic dead guy is if they're hearing these voices inside or outside of their heads...

Posted by: Nymous | October 11, 2010 7:23 PM

Looks like Barry missed the Short Bus AGAIN !!!
Posted by: thgirbla | August 24, 2010 10:00 PM

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Looks like missed your turn when God was handing out brains.

Posted by: camera_eye_11 | October 11, 2010 8:58 PM

When blastomas are too old for implantation they are destroyed while viable, so using the same cells for possible cures gets something positive done with them. Before the religious condemn stem cell research, they should be aware possible life is being destroyed anyway.

Posted by: jameschirico | October 11, 2010 9:51 PM

What cons?

Posted by: timothy2me | October 11, 2010 10:52 PM

"User Poll: Do the pros outweigh the cons?"

I know a lot of cons lift weights but some of those pro linemen are huge. I put my money on the pros.

Posted by: timothy2me | October 11, 2010 10:57 PM

The religious nuts who assert that only adult stem cells, not embryonic stem cells, work overlook the fact that embryonic stem cells haven't even been tried, because to the obstruction of the religious nuts. The potential of ESCs is astounding. Maybe we can overcome the ignorant objections, and begin to reap the benefits.

Posted by: lowercaselarry | October 11, 2010 11:13 PM

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I hope all of you who are against stem cell research get a disease that can only be treated with medication developed through stem cell research.

Then we'll see how against it you are. Hypocrites!

Posted by: solsticebelle | August 23, 2010 8:44 PM

First, you do not play well with others. Second, I have two serious debilitating diseases that can only be cured with stem cell research. I'll use stem cells from anyplace other than a baby - which is what human embryonic cells are. Millions of cells? Millions of what, tiny emergent babies? That's horrific.

Posted by: AdventurerVA | October 11, 2010 11:28 PM

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