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Do you think Americans are disconnected from the country's wars?

By Abha Bhattarai  |  October 7, 2010; 12:18 PM ET  | Category:  National Save & Share:  Send E-mail   Facebook   Twitter   Digg   Yahoo Buzz   Del.icio.us   StumbleUpon   Technorati  
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How could they not be disconnected? The history of the world and the U.S. isn't being taught in our schools. History must be learned. Knowing history is not an unconditioned reflex. In order to know it, one must learn it. There is no other way.
Let's hope that Hegel was wrong when he said," The only thing we learn from history is that we learn nothing from history."

Posted by: m_richert | October 7, 2010 6:12 PM

How can Americans be in touch with its' wars when the majortity have NEVER really been properly informed about them from the start? The Reality is that if you want something closer to the truth then whatvwe have now, you have to be your own journalist, you have to get onlline and do your own digging. It takes time to do the searching and time to figure out where the reliable sources are. HINT They are usually out side of the country.

Posted by: jkrovari | October 8, 2010 11:16 AM

I agree with the poll results. We the general public don't want to think about the mistake we made in drawing down in Aftganistan and invading
Iraq. Also the only one suffering in this war are the combat troops and their families. The Defence INDUSTRY is happy with the situation and the Pharmacutical Industry are making money hand over fist, because over 46 percent of the troops are on prescription drugs to overcome the stress of constant deployments.

You want the american people to realize that we have a war....DECLARE A DRAFT..!

Gysgt G. F. Lynch, USMC (retired)

Posted by: georgeichbn | October 8, 2010 5:36 PM

Annexing the North States of Mexico to USA States as Countys is a growing mantra to end the border wars with Mexico, and then let Canada and South America fight over the rest of the corruption ridden place people flee.
The war in Afganistan is only to kill US Americans in a US funded meatgrinder. The smarter American soldiers should all just walk out on it.
It is like Vietnam...a meaningless blood bath where fleeing was the only option. This time they might consider fleeing to the North border States of Mexico locked and loaded. It would make for a longer and better life and a better war to wage.

Posted by: dottydo | October 10, 2010 6:16 PM

Authoritarians wanted to remodel the Middle East according to their own tastes. They were in control of the U.S. Government. The 9/11 attacks gave them political cover. Congress rolled over for Cheney and his neo-conservative friends. Volunteers in the military saluted smartly and went off to war with the army Rumsfeld's pals had. Even taxes were not raised to pay for the wars. Taxes were lowered. The entire misadventure was run on borrowed money and with sole-source contractors. The American people were never instructed why the wars were important to America or what a successful outcome of each of them would look like. This is about entertaining and enriching wealthy people. This is NOT about protecting Our Freedoms.

Posted by: BlueTwo1 | October 12, 2010 12:10 AM

We are disconnected when compared to other times of war in our country. But it is always there in the background. Fundamentally We don't want to have our military over there since there is not way to "win". We feel helpless and disconnected in that sense. Not in the sense that we are unaware.

Posted by: watsonjl1 | October 12, 2010 12:16 AM

Too many people are detached from conflicts the US is involved in, and too many think they're somehow optional when they are not.

It's not a party thing, and frankly there are plenty of idiots to go around in both parties over the subject of defense.

Posted by: Nymous | October 12, 2010 12:17 AM

Secretary Gates stated just the other day in a speech at Duke University, that only 1 % of our population has now served in uniform. I know for a fact that this society is disconnected from the military, the war and the whole concept on what the price of freedom is. I spent 23 years in the military and four combat deployments.

All America is about is NFL Football, College basketball or the NBA and Labron. Hell we are not even worried about educating our kids. We are a sports minded society and think all of our kids are going pro. We are # 11 in the world in education, China and India are killing us in the class room. But yet our biggest concern is the NFL ticket.

We are a dying Republic and guess what we are what we reap.


Posted by: fergy1963 | October 12, 2010 12:18 AM

If the American people were taxed so that they payed for the war, there would be no war. Some so called patriots want the war and their taxes lowered. They need math 101.

Posted by: paperjay1 | October 12, 2010 12:19 AM

Our foreign wars during the past decade are destroying America and still killing tens of thousands of Iraq War veterans with cancer and giving birth defects to their children, because we used deadly depleted uranium DU ammo. The unconscionable use of this material is a war crime destroying the health of our citizens and the residents of Iraq and Afghanistan.

The average American citizen is too worried about saving their homes from foreclosure and employment issues to care about what is happening in Central Asia. The clock is ticking and in another year or two our veterans will start dropping like flies from depleted uranium ammo they were exposed to.

Posted by: alance | October 12, 2010 12:20 AM

Of course Americans are disconnected from the war. First of all, it was an unprovoked, war of choice, so there was NOTHING leading up to it! Secondly, half our population knows NOTHING about American or world history, wars, democracy, or civics because these subjects are only incidentally and sporadically taught in our schools. When a reality is not experienced or taught, it does not exist in that world or generation! This is a sad commentary about the failures in our educational system! It also follows that these young people will have very little patriotism or knowledge and interest about our government and voting. Is it any wonder that they are so gullible and succumb so easily to propaganda?

Posted by: Maerzie | October 12, 2010 12:41 AM

When Paul Wolfowitz wrote the "Wolfowitz Doctrine" back in the mid-90s (google it) as the inspiration for the war which followed he gave two primary reasons for it. One was the US needs (neo-con world domination) and the other was Israel's strategic needs. Most Americans don't appreicate either.

Posted by: wmboyd | October 12, 2010 1:14 AM


Why is the Washington Post ignoring the fact that Republicans are VERY ENTHUSIASTIC?

I mean, very, very, VERY ENTHUSIASTIC!

I mean EXPLOSIVELY enthusiastic!

I mean dangerously, HYPERBOLICALLY ENTHUSIASTIC!

We're talking RECORD LEVELS of Enthusiasm!

We're talking SNAKE-FLAG WAVING Enthusiasm!

We're talking better than ORGASM Enthusiasm!

This much ENTHUSIASM has not been seen since the CIVIL WAR!!

SKYROCKETS IN FLIGHT!!

WOW! And DOUBLE WOW!!!

Posted by: motorfriend | October 12, 2010 1:41 AM

9/11 happened because 1.6 Billion Muslims were (and remain) incensed at US foreign policy towards Israel. The Muslim world watched the US and Israel destroy an Arab nation for 43 years. That's why 9/11 happened. Invading Iraq and Afghanistan did not address the cause of Arab anger at all. We bankrupted ourselves and are politically isolated in the world as not one country supports our foreign policy towards Israel. The fruitless Iraq war produced 1/4 of our total debt. America should stay out of all wars. Going to war has to be thought through in great detail. The folly of war based on nothing but testosterone bankrupted us. America led the western world into Iraq on false premises. Then America crashed the world economy selling bad apple mortgages to foreign institutions. It might be an idea for America to repair its relations with the world. Our foreign policy is costing us about 500,000 jobs and vast lost tax revenue on lost overseas business. Our popularity in the world is at a record low. We stand alone.

Source of global terrorism (Carter figured it out - it has nothing to do with Iraq)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XydXJ1J_ZY0&feature=related

Posted by: betterdays1 | October 12, 2010 3:42 AM

The controlled, lapdog media has done an excellent job keeping the majority disconnected.
Has there ever been a debate about the effect of these endless wars on our economy, security or reputation?
And there never be either as we keep sliding downwards.
American interest is not their first interest.

Posted by: qualquan | October 12, 2010 3:53 AM

There's two kinds of disconnect, refusing to pay (the rich) and refusing to confront (boo-rah phony patriots.)

WE NEED A DRAFT! OBAMA IS A FOOL TO FOLLOW BUSH, THERE IS NO NATIONAL SECURITY INTEREST!

Posted by: AIPACiswar | October 12, 2010 6:28 AM

Just as it has been in the past the public tires of war. We are now seeing what happened at the end of the Viet Nam War.
No parades and no pride for returning vets.
When I came home form Nam the only thing waiting for me was my brother in laws funeral. He was a Green Beret killed in the fall of Kay son

Posted by: piemcj | October 12, 2010 6:56 AM

Yesterday they announced Sept was the 1st month more "contractors" were killed over there than "troops." A "Republican" lead committee ended the draft (that's right). They ended it to stop Democrats from going on foreign adventures (according to Alan Greenspan who was on that committee. Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney found a way to get around the draft using money at the State Dept. to hire mercenaries. While it was their idea, the military/industrial complex (remember Eisenhower's warning about letting it take control of the US) likes the idea trememdously (it produces great wealth).

But, now the cycle has been broken because the US can't borrow enough from China to get it cycling. This is a great worry for the military/industrial complex. Many mansions will be lost unless we do away with domestic spending entirely.

Posted by: wmboyd | October 12, 2010 7:48 AM

Our news media has created mass attention deficit syndrome in this country. The coverage of the war in Afghanistan runs hot and cold. No maps to show areas of activity. No discussions with Generals. The coverage is very poor. We need a photogenic General such as Schwarzkopf to capture the minds of Americans. A General who does his job and gives us the interest that we need. God Bless Our Troops.

Posted by: bobbo2 | October 12, 2010 7:50 AM

There is no doubt that the American public has lost connection with the wars tht we have been involved in. When you have very little ownership to these conflicts there is no reason to have personal connection unless you have a love one involved in the conflict. Because the involvement of these wars have not been evenly distributed the public has lost their interest. Wealthy corporations have made out on these conflicts through their shady connections but those fighting the conflict have been exploited.

Posted by: bbtjss | October 12, 2010 7:54 AM

Nine years later, it's a little too to care about the wars. When Bush and Cheney invaded Iraq, they abandoned our troops in Afghanistan with no mission, no leadership and no strategy...and the outcome of the Afghan war was decided...back in 2003. In fact, Obama's biggest blunder has been in not realizing that the war in Afghanistan is a lost cause. And the "Mission Accomplished" in Iraq cost almost 40,000 U.S. dead or wounded, up to one million Iraqi lives (but who cares?), more than ONE TRILLION dollars in debt (mostly transferred to privates that support the Republican Party) and a generation of damaged veterans.

Posted by: jjedif | October 12, 2010 8:12 AM

If Dumsfeld and the GOP had not tucked tail and ran from Afghanistan to chase after fantasy WMD and fake links to 9/11 and faux Al Qaeda for votes, then America would have been done with Afghanistan 6 years ago.

What is it with the GOP that they think fooling American voters and obtaining power are more important than national security?

Why did the GOP let Bin Laden and Al Qaeda escape in the Tora Bora mountains?

Why is the GOP are so un-American, as to denigrate US servicemen and women by saying they cannot and are not winning in Afghanistan?

Posted by: walker1 | October 12, 2010 8:32 AM

Bring back the draft, and raise taxes to pay for the wars. Pass a law making it illegal to hire contractors for any task that requires the use of deadly weapons in any way. Our military should and must handle these tasks.

Better yet, pull all our troops out of the Middle East, close our bases there, and tell the peoples of the region to grow up, join the modern world, and sort it out for themselves. Quit giving the terrorists targets and justification for their actions. Quit giving the backward and despotic governments of the region an excuse for their failure to modernize and treat their citizens like human beings.

Posted by: Chagasman | October 12, 2010 8:33 AM

Well, duh. Obama being an unsupportive, no show, anti-war Commander in Chief in charge of a war with Gates serving as his mouth piece kind of makes you feel hopeless and disconnected.

Posted by: SusanMarie2 | October 12, 2010 8:50 AM

Of course they are disconnected. That's exactly what the Pentagon wants. They do not want anyone to know how much money is being spent, how many civilians are being killed, or how much corruption is taking place. We have become a police state, and anyone who doesn't think so is not paying attention. (most of the country). No one sees the irony of labeling other countries as terrorists, as WE invade and attack 3 separate countries. If the American Sheeple could turn off Dancing with the Nimwits and Jersey Shores for a few minutes they just might be shocked to find out exactly who the real terrorists are.

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Posted by: itkonlyyou316 | October 12, 2010 9:03 AM

There are two ways to stop aggressive war in its tracks. Initiate the draft and institute a war tax that is disproportionate upon the rich. You will see how the Republican corporate justices ruled in Citizens United case will jump in their face. The thing these Corporate Justices will learn is that if we fail to learn from history we have learned nothing from it. Layers call this learning experience precedent.

Posted by: bberka2 | October 12, 2010 9:07 AM

Isn't this what the US government wants, no pain, no new tax, all paid by borrowing..

Posted by: in_starbucks | October 12, 2010 9:22 AM

Americans are disconnected because the media refuse to talk about it. And I believe that has to do with having a president who is a Democrat. Get a Republican as a president and the media will suddenly remember the US is engaged in wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Posted by: trumeau | October 12, 2010 9:26 AM

Our government, politicians, industry, the Chamber of Commerce, conservative "Think Tanks", businesses and and most of the cable 'news' media have no interest in discussing or exposing these wars. American citizens have not been asked for visible sacrifices like a draft, war tax, purchasing "War Bonds" or encouraging any meaningful discussions of these unnecessary wars. Is it any wonder we have become detached? "Out of sight, out of mind" is the philosophy of the war mongers. We the people have let it happen. What next are we willing to give away?

Posted by: hfaulk01 | October 12, 2010 9:38 AM

Yes they are connected, but...I think they are connected in a limited way, ways that serve mainly to exploit voters emotionally without forcing them to make sacrifices which may limit the interests of different political factions.

Ex: Republicans talk real tough about the War on Terror and accuse Democrats of coddling terrorists, but they refuse to contemplate any alternative energy source, or conservation program that may blunt the influence and power of oil-producting despots.

Ex: Democrats are willing to double-down in Afganistan, but are unwilling to drive the peace process forward in other parts of the Islamic world.

Ex: Republicans have shown a lamentable willingness to exploit vulnerable immigrant populations, calling them insipient terrorists and call for expenditures to send millions back to their home countries. Yet they refuse to acknowledge the social and economic costs, and instead boast about America's freedoms and insist upon large tax cuts.

Cognitive dissonance? Political immaturity and irrespnsibility? Or just straight dishonesty and cowardice. Maybe it is an unsavory combination of all!

Posted by: chuck2 | October 12, 2010 10:15 AM

Americans are a very self-absorbed people. They only take an interest in those events that they can directly link to their own happiness or comfort. When the United States had a draft it was easy for many Americans to make such a connection. Without a draft they do not see any such connection so they find the wars uninteresting.

Posted by: fcodispoti | October 12, 2010 12:51 PM

If we still had the military draft in this Country, Americans would not be disconnected. Notwithstanding, polls indicate that an overwhelming majority of Americans want OUT of both of these wars. Americans have made their voices heard, however, it is hard to disengage. Iraq is now in the rear view mirror (I hope), and next July will be telling as to what happens with withdrawal from Afghanistan. So far, Karzai is helping by kicking out the contractors and having talks with his "misguided fellow citizens," i.e., the Taliban. The end is in sight.

Posted by: dozas | October 12, 2010 1:34 PM

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