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Can the Pats Win in '08 or Win It All Anytime Soon?

Given Tom Brady's injury and the Super Bowl loss are we looking at the death of the Patriot's dynasty?

Posted by Emil Steiner on September 7, 2008 10:00 PM
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Tony: Couldn't have happened to a more deserving team....

Anonymous: Sad and pathetic. That's the definition of people expressing glee over Brady's injury. I agree that NE fans have begun acting a little ent...

Anonymous: Week 2. Pats are 2-0. It's good to know somethings don't change....

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Go JETS :

Bye bye Brady, hello mediocrity. How far the mighty have fallen. Billy B. is going down hard and I can't think of a more deserving coach.
At least Boston still has their sox, oh right.

toto :

Hey Pats do you believe in Karma now?

Blitzkrieg :

Bury your season at wounded knee.

Victor :

The word "dynasty" gets thrown around all too loosely these days. Since when does NOT winning the Super Bowl constitute a dynasty?

Scott :

With Tom Brady out, the Patriots are done as a dynasty. Tom Brady was their Joe Montana. Without out him, they are a good team but not great. I think they will still have a winning season but they wont be the jaggernaut they have been in the past.

smtpgirl :

I agree with Victor's post. The Patriots didn't win the Super Bowl, so how can they be considered a dynasty?

Dynasty to me

Cowboys
Forty-Niners
Packers
Steelers

and yes even the Redskins.


Giselle :

Dynasty = winning three or more SBs in one decade. Look it up and while you are at it, look up class, Brady has it, you don't.

gsquare :

Victor is absolutely right. Maybe the Pats were considered a dynasty, but that's all in the past. They haven't won the last 3 bowls and certainly don't look in position to win one this year if Brady's gone.

And the Redskins SMTPGIRL? Please.

Minute Man :

To all you Patriot haters (or should I say football insurgents) admit your jealousy. You just wish you could have a team as perfect as the Pats have been this century. You claim that going 18-1 doesn't make you a dynasty. How about the 3 superbowls we won in the past 7 years? Grow up and realize that you don't know a thing about football. Bill Belichick is the greatest football mind since Vince Lombardi, even better in some ways. The Patriots are the greatest dynasty ever, even if Tom doesn't throw another pass.

Max :

go back to boston and don't forget your little sawx cap and brady poster.

Roy Hobbs :

2007 was the hurrah for the Patriots. Moss is 32, the linebackers, Rodney Harrison, Richard Seymour are over 30 and the secondary replaced solid performers with the likes of Deltha O'Neal.

Brady's presence meant more to the team in 2008 than previously because the supporting cast is not as good.

There is no Corey Dillon to take the pressure off Matt Cassel, Maroney and Lamont Jordan are not franchise backs.

Due to the easiest schedule in the NFL the Patriots will be in the playoffs barring a complete collapse, but without Brady they are not going to advance very far.

It's coming to an end in NE. Great run, 3 Super Bowl victories. It happens to all the top teams eventually. And the fall usually begins after a high, like the 18-1 season NE had in 2007.

Matt :

To anyone wondering if the Pats dynasty is over because of Brady's knee injury, I'd simply point to Donovan McNabb's performance yesterday. Over 300 yds and three touchdowns and he's post knee injury.

Brady's knee injury is bad, but to say the Patriot's dynasty is definitely over is absurdly premature. First of all, when Drew Bledsoe was knocked out for the season in the fall of '01 no one thought that little-known back-up Tom Brady would take his team to the Super Bowl. So don't count Matt Cassell out just yet.

Also, I'm tired of people suggesting that the Patriot's weren't the best team in Football last year because they lost the Super Bowl. The best team in the NFL in the '01/'02 season was the St. Louis Rams. I'm a Pats fan and I'm glad they won the Super Bowl, but it doesn't mean they were the best team in the league that year. It actually makes it more exciting and special that they were the underdog. Same thing in '08. You can't tell me that any team in the NFL would rather have played the Patriots than the Giants a week after the Super Bowl. The Giants won a great game. You can say they were the better team THAT DAY, but to suggest they were better in pure terms is just foolish.

You can sleep on the Pats if you want, but they have a weak schedule and old cut-off sweatshirt at the helm. Underestimate them at your peril.

Anonymous :

"To all you Patriot haters (or should I say football insurgents) admit your jealousy. You just wish you could have a team as perfect as the Pats have been this century. You claim that going 18-1 doesn't make you a dynasty. How about the 3 superbowls we won in the past 7 years? Grow up and realize that you don't know a thing about football. Bill Belichick is the greatest football mind since Vince Lombardi, even better in some ways. The Patriots are the greatest dynasty ever, even if Tom doesn't throw another pass."

And you wonder why there are "Patriot haters" with this kind of attitude. I've generally found it's not the team people hate, but the arrogance of some of the fans. Matt at least has some rational points in his post.

gsquare :

"To all you Patriot haters (or should I say football insurgents) admit your jealousy. You just wish you could have a team as perfect as the Pats have been this century. You claim that going 18-1 doesn't make you a dynasty. How about the 3 superbowls we won in the past 7 years? Grow up and realize that you don't know a thing about football. Bill Belichick is the greatest football mind since Vince Lombardi, even better in some ways. The Patriots are the greatest dynasty ever, even if Tom doesn't throw another pass."

And you wonder why there are "Patriot haters" with an attitude like this. I've generally found that it's not necessarily the team that other fans hate, but the arrogance of some of the NE fans. Matt at least has some rational thoughts in his post.

double r :

I think if you believe that their reign as one of the NFL elite teams is in trouble then you don't know the heart of the Pat's.
Two words is all I can say: Randy Moss
(ATM).

double r :

I think if you believe that their reign as one of the NFL elite teams is in trouble, you don't know the heart of the Pat's at all.Two words is all I can say: Randy Moss
(ATM).

lkd711 :

Brady will be back, if not this season, next season. This may be a challenging season for the Patriots, but, remembering how Brady's career began, in a cinderella season coming off the bench as a back up quarterback, anything's possible. It would be a great story if the Patriots were able to show some character this season, and overcome adversity, after the cheating scandal that tarred last season.

Bill B :

Bottom line.. After watching last week's loss to the Giants, the Brady-less Pats still have a better chance of making the playoffs than the spineless Redskins..

Tony :

Couldn't have happened to a more deserving team.

Anonymous :

Sad and pathetic. That's the definition of people expressing glee over Brady's injury.

I agree that NE fans have begun acting a little entitled. But I remember 1986 and all the rough years. So I am proud of my New England Patriots, the Red Sox, the Celtics, the Bruins, and the Revolution. Damn proud.

Our attitude doesn't excuse yours. It's sad and pathetic.

Anonymous :

Week 2. Pats are 2-0. It's good to know somethings don't change.

 
 
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