Will the suspensions of Pat and Kevin Williams hold water, or is the pill too hard to swallow?
A little late. But Pay back is a real -----..
Minnesotan: These players' bodies are a multimillion dollar asset. Players should well know exactly what they are putting in to them. They are al...
Mel: Maybe it's a bit off the subject, but the question was "Shouldn't players know what they put into their bodies". As Americans, we put proces...
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The rules are very simple. Don't take water pills. These two boneheads took water pills. They broke the rules. The rules don't say that if you are a bonehead you are allowed to break the rules. The rules say if you break the rules you pay the price. Judge Larson is a homer.
December 4, 2008 9:41 AM | Report Offensive Comments
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December 4, 2008 10:46 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Give me a break. They took roids, tried to cover it up and got busted. Everything else is just window dressing!
December 4, 2008 11:33 AM | Report Offensive Comments
We depend on the company to provide accurate information so when StarCaps lie essentially how can you hold a player liable. It is not their responsibility to be a doctor and lawyer and football player. The league has become way to strict to its own detriment. Sensible application of the laws are usually a more effective solution to such problems than brutal and blind enforcement.
December 4, 2008 12:45 PM | Report Offensive Comments
If you want to see how to reduce doping, check out cycling - 2 year suspensions are handed out like candy. It is probably worth the risk to dope in the NFL given the minimal sanctions.
December 4, 2008 4:50 PM | Report Offensive Comments
I think it isn't really fair to suspend the players for taking supplements. You dont punish the players because it is not their responsibility to guess what is in an improperly labeled supplement. I am surprised there is not more outrage against StarCaps. I mean the company is guilty of fraud why does no one seem to care?
December 4, 2008 6:17 PM | Report Offensive Comments
This comes down to the fundamental analysis of do we see these humans as athletes or do we see them as gladiators. IMHO i think they are gladiators. Or in more PC terms they are our entertainers who use their bodies like hookers but in a more moral way there is no denying that. They sell it for money and they die young. They are unique. They are freaks. We want to watch. Who else can have that? They are well paid. They have it better than they could. The moralizing I read in these comments seems misdirected. Blame the system that encourages not the slaves who are used in it. Place your blame accurately.
December 5, 2008 2:08 AM | Report Offensive Comments
People have said that it’s not the individuals fault but the 'systems' fault. Kind of like an updated form of the 70's 'The devil made me do it'. As if we are all caught up in this zombie trance and led around to do the will of the 'system'. These are obviously weak people that are emotionally unable to accept full responsibility of their actions and therefore it’s somebody else’s or something’s fault for what I did. PATHETIC!!!! What system is in place that makes someone take that first hit of the crack pipe? What system is in place that makes someone put that bottle to their mouth? What system is in place that makes that drunken person drive home? It’s all about personal responsibility. What I do I am accountable for.....not someone or something else. This the year 2008, what athlete can accept ANY supplement from anyone and assume it is ok? If they accept it and use it without knowing exactly what is in there they are not only 100% responsible they are stupid beyond imagination!!
December 5, 2008 8:16 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Both the system and the individual are to blame for the steriod use problem. I don't know about this particular case. The specifics of any particular case are irrelevant to the broader issue. Yes, the individuals need to be aware of what they are taking be it in the form of supplements, prescription medication or vitamins and how those compounds affect their bodies. Knowingly consuming steriods is cheating. Players who knowingly consume steroids should be banned from play. That said, it is the responsibility of the teams to monitor their players to insure there is no abuse. Because steroids are so readily available, ignoring the use of steroids by not periodically and randomly monitoring for them is tantamount to accepting or approving their use. Teams have the responsibility to police themselves and if they don't the team is effectively allowing players, trainers, coaches and owners to get away with the risk of steroid use. And if they do that the entire TEAM is cheating, not just individual players. If players are caught the TEAM should also be suspended from play. I believe it is way to easy and too tempting for teams to just look the other way while players abuse steroids and supplements. Some of the responsibility rests even with the fans for placing too much importance on professional sports themselves and for demanding absolute perfection from the players.
December 5, 2008 9:16 AM | Report Offensive Comments
I don't believe the question is accurately directed. What you have is an monopoly organization (NFL) that generously rewards employees who excel in both direct ($$contracts) and indirect ($endorsements, celebrity, etc) ways and just as decisively punishes those who summarily fall-off. I cannot consciously indict these men for zealously pursuing all the methods available to exceed at their craft when the employer, after holding them to this inflated standard of performance perfection, sees fit to leave them to determine if the new FDA approved Flintstone's vitamin supplement won't get them banned from the game for life. Outrageous. I say that players should be able to hold the team accountable by providing the supplement they want to take to the trainers for a green light to proceed. If the team says its good, then the player should be absolved of any responsibility. Yeah, I know these guys make millions, but the owners make soooo much more.
December 5, 2008 5:08 PM | Report Offensive Comments
A little late. But Pay back is a real -----..
December 6, 2008 1:37 PM | Report Offensive Comments
These players' bodies are a multimillion dollar asset. Players should well know exactly what they are putting in to them. They are also obligated to know and obey the many rules of the NFL. They are compensated extremely well in return. Ignorance is absolutely no excuse. The issue is not whether the Williams took steroids, but that they DID take a banned substance. A four game suspension, per league rules should be handed down swiftly to display the NFL's serious intentions.
December 6, 2008 1:47 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Maybe it's a bit off the subject, but the question was "Shouldn't players know what they put into their bodies". As Americans, we put processed (with who knows what) food into our bodies, as well as "trusted" medicines with all types of risk factors and side effects. Of course we should all be responsible with what we decide to consume, and we shouldn't judge what others ingest as long as we are consuming unknown and misunderstood items into our own bodies. Yes, it's true that athletes are caught with illegal substances, and although I don't condone it, we really need to take a deeper look at ourselves before judging others. Finger pointing never really solved anything.
December 10, 2008 9:38 PM | Report Offensive Comments