How will you remember Baltimore Ravens Quarterback Steve McNair?
ChrisFord1: Sorry it happened, but it sure turned out not to be a "healthy" relationship for the 36-yr old married with kids sports star or the young im...
pvh1: I will remember Steve McNair for being one of the toughest QBs to ever play in the NFL. If being murdered is the price that adulterers must...
HornetCoach: It doesn't take character to run with or throw a football. (i.e. Mike Vick). People can debate and argue all day about his morals or whethe...
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What a sad loss. I happened to meet Steve McNair while waiting for a plane to Nashville at BWI last year and found him to be a terrifically warm, friendly, and engaging person. He had just stepped down from the Ravens the week before, I think, and there was clearly a big buzz going through the crowd of people waiting. At the time, I had no idea who he was, so I called my 21-year old niece (who IS a big sports fan) because he was clearly an athlete whoever he was and I figured she could give me the 411. Needless to say, she immediately knew and filled me in.
McNair was being very friendly with everyone who approached him, from wide-eyed little boys to middle-aged ladies, so I decided to approach him as well. I asked him to please sign something for my niece (who was very impressed that he was there), and then asked him if he would just say hello to her on the phone. To my surprise, he not only said hello, but engaged her in a conversation for several minutes! He actually seemed to get a real kick out of it.
Clearly, he didn't have to be this nice to me, to my niece, or to any of the other people in the crowd. But, I guess that's just how he was.
Whatever other foibles he might have had, it's clear that he stayed down-to-earth and enjoyed the public no matter how famous he became... As great a player as he was, those kinds of interactions he had with the public are what truly touched individual lives...
July 4, 2009 10:17 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Anybody else read the McNair story and come away with a sense that the PC powers at the Post hosed this one?
From accounts from real sports departments at other major newspapers, the stories all basically carried the following details:
The woman who was killed was twenty years old. She and McNair had "co-owned" a very expensive Cadillac. A couple of nights previously, she was driving the car (with McNair in the passenger seat) and got pulled over. She refused to take the breathalyzer claiming that she was "high."
This woman (not of course McNair's wife) and McNair entered a condo somewhere after midnight Saturday. (McNair and another friend co-own the condo.)
The two were found dead later that day by the co-owner who did not initially call the police but called a friend (that OK with you Regis?) Then the police were called.
News reports from reputable sports departments also included in the story other brushes with the law by McNair over the past couple of years, many involving his drinking and driving. It appears that most of the charges were dropped (athletes get special protection after all.)
The story lines in the other papers report that McNair's wife was "shocked" and "devastated." Of course if you don't know that your husband has a joint ownership of a high priced vehicle with a woman sixteen years his junior and he was where after midnight on Saturday?
The Post is way too PC to report any of this despite the fact that McNair's behavior with the woman and the alcohol abuse could have something to do with the execution style murders.
Six writers at the Post were cited as contributing to the story.
What an embarrassment to the PC folks running the alleged Post sports department. Keep bowing and scraping to the 'Skins which is all most of the writers ever do (Bos - you are the exception.)
July 5, 2009 1:22 PM | Report Offensive Comments
While anyone's death is sad, a murder, which this was, is especially unsettling. What is it in me that sees a need to discuss why a married man with 4 sons who wasn't the South Carolina Governor was with a woman, not his wife, and 16 years his junior? Who was this "friend" who found him and why wasn't that person shocked at the woman's presence. This is a tragedy on so many levels, not the least of which is the simple idol worshiping so many of us do based on one facet of success in a persons life. I think having a very expensive vehicle "jointly owned" with a waitress from Dave&Busters points to the fact that even nice guys and great sports figures, can make really horrible and selfish decisions that affect many people.
I am sure Wilbon will have some particularly sharp words for this, Bos too, but I think someone really needs to step up and point out that McNair was a philandering selfish father of four.
July 5, 2009 3:07 PM | Report Offensive Comments
So Air McNair had his good points. Great. That may help him when he has to face St. Pete. That may help him when he tries to explain why he was taking money away from his family to buy a car for a 20yr old girl. And to maintain a second residence that sure looks like it was for clandestine trysts.
He had 4 young sons.
July 5, 2009 5:40 PM | Report Offensive Comments
So he was having a little poka-doke. Big deal. Most high profile men do, like Clinton, Ghandi, Martin Luther King. Why don't we focus on all the great things he did professionally and leave his personal life out of it?
And to you OSMOR, if he earned the money he can spend it how ever he likes.
July 5, 2009 6:45 PM | Report Offensive Comments
You miss the point. Is it surprising that married men who have power are not faithful to their wives?
The issue raised is why the Post sports department ducked the big question which involves the murder of a high profile athlete who may have been killed by a jealous ex-boyfriend.
Ever heard of OJ? The facts were out there and the Post sports department went PC and did not report on some of the issues that could easily point to what may have actually happened, i.e. jealous third party. The police seem to have some good leads which is why they are not saying much at this time.
Besides, didn't McNair's friends talk about him being a role model for young men? He had four sons. Not much of a role model there...
July 6, 2009 12:09 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Sorry guys but just another wife cheating jock who never grew up. And you wonder why kids want to be jocks---cause they see it as the path to being held unaccountable; that and being a politician.
July 6, 2009 9:54 AM | Report Offensive Comments
I don't see him anything akin a hero or role model in him. It's sad anytime someone is murdered and I hope they resolve this quickly.
But also, what does it say about a man living in adultery? What memories will his children have of his murder? His kids will forever associate their dad's murder while in the bed of a woman not his wife. And that's even sadder than his murder.
July 6, 2009 11:42 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Good guy right! Cheating husband that played with fire. Bullet proof? Nope
July 6, 2009 11:58 AM | Report Offensive Comments
"So he was having a little poka-doke. Big deal. Most high profile men do, like Clinton, Ghandi, Martin Luther King. Why don't we focus on all the great things he did professionally and leave his personal life out of it?
And to you OSMOR, if he earned the money he can spend it how ever he likes."
The above is a common yet PERFECT EXAMPLE of the baseness of so many in our contry have come to.
My condolences to the family, especially those boys, that are now even more victims of the fashion of the day: bling, flash, superficial me-first, feel good, everyone else is responsible but me narcisism that goes from our president to our entertainers.
July 6, 2009 12:56 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Thinking of some of McNair's arrests, which I don't think resulted in any convictions, how lucky was he not to wind up like Stallworth or Burress or both? Maybe it should go the other way and they're as otherwise upstanding as McNair was.
July 6, 2009 2:22 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Last time I checked Barack Obama hasnt been seen or accused of being with any other woman but his wife...so...lets leave him out of this conversation, Sally.
As for Mr. McNair, who paid the ultimate price for that piece of ---, lets stop discussing him as a role model. One can hardly be a role model if one is found dead in a residence with a woman known to NOT be one's wife and who is known to have been one-half of an illicit relationship outside of his marriage. The definition is classic "adulterer." One way ticket to Satan's loft, no matter what good he may have done.
I feel sorry for his wife and his sons. They are left to clean up the mess, and sadly, its probably mess that none of them were aware of. McNair probably ended up having to put that vehicle in his name and hers because the young dime piece didnt have a lick of credit and couldnt put the car in her own name, and he sure as hell couldnt withdraw that kind of money in cash to pay for it outright without his wife wanting to know what the big withdrawal was for. And you know 20 year olds, they want it NOW. She had to have some self-esteem issues if she accepted the onset of a relationship with someone who was clearly married in the first place. You definitely pay for stupid at some point.
And by the way KATFISH, when you are married, you DONT get to spend your money anyway you want to just because you earned it.
July 6, 2009 3:20 PM | Report Offensive Comments
same old story - married guy opens his life up to bad people/things because he JUST can't keep it in his pants. Married 36 year old rich guy with 4 kids, just HAS to start sleeping with a 20 year old waitress. Living a lie/hiding things always have costs...this one cost him is life. Too bad.
July 6, 2009 5:50 PM | Report Offensive Comments
same old story - married guy opens his life up to bad people/things because he JUST can't keep it in his pants. Married 36 year old rich guy with 4 kids, just HAS to start sleeping with a 20 year old waitress. Living a lie/hiding things always have costs...this one cost him his life. Too bad.
July 6, 2009 5:51 PM | Report Offensive Comments
The way I read this story is that despite doing what 99.95% of professional athletes do (having affairs), he was generally known as a good guy who really did give back to the community -- much more than the average football player. That's what makes the story somewhat unique.
Maybe he and his wife had an open relationship? Maybe she didn't care if he was carousing as long as he came home to her. It certainly appears that he wasn't doing much to hide the relationship since everyone at the restaurant knew, he's going parasailing with the girl and getting photo'd.
Who knows what the relationship was with his wife.
July 6, 2009 7:23 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Oh Please, this is just another cheating man who got what he deserved. The sad thing is that the rest of them won't see this as a reason to remain faithful - it will just be a cautionary tale to remind them to choose their adultery partners carefully.
July 6, 2009 7:41 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Sorry it happened, but it sure turned out not to be a "healthy" relationship for the 36-yr old married with kids sports star or the young immigrant woman.
We don't know if the 20-year old was a wild child, or was just a sexually attractive exotic-looking (Iranian Baha'i) who was drawn into a world of flash, money, drugs and found herself suddenly a used up playtoy.
A potentially dangerous, rutting, white-woman seeking, behavior by the sports star. Even without the tawdry end, he could have lost marriage, his wife and kids, and considerable chunk of his money just from his rampant secret party life getting discovered.
And likely if this girl Sahel had never met McNair and hopped on the "living Large" fastrack, she'd still be alive.
I really don't care about McNairs great victories or how many people admired him or if he shook the hands of several diseased kids sent to the typical pro athletes...
David Carradine made good movies, good music, had a memorable TV show. He was found dead in a very awkward position in a Bangkok hotel.
Hopefully also cautionary for those wishing to check out autoerotic asphyxia.
July 6, 2009 9:12 PM | Report Offensive Comments
I will remember Steve McNair for being one of the toughest QBs to ever play in the NFL. If being murdered is the price that adulterers must pay, as some of you posters seem to think, then the world's population is about to shrink exponentially.
July 6, 2009 10:02 PM | Report Offensive Comments
It doesn't take character to run with or throw a football. (i.e. Mike Vick). People can debate and argue all day about his morals or whether he deserved what he got but the bottom line is the man was murdered. NOW, the people affected for the rest of their lives are McNairs family and children. THAT's the sad part. Hopefully some other high-profile "Players" will learn something- FEEL SOMETHING - from this and be more accountable to -and considerate of - their families. Be they pro athletes, CEO's, politicians, professors, or just the guy next door. Consider your family, often the most precious thing a person could ever have.
July 6, 2009 10:15 PM | Report Offensive Comments