Is Chad's public duel with Roger Goodell helping the NFL, the Bengals or just Ochocinco?
neil64: Although very talented and I think a good guy, at least a good citizen, Chad focuses at least as much on entertaining us as he does his jo...
kls1: Chad, just join up with the wrestling circuit. I like a good laugh but you're heading the NFL -- the only well managed sport -- into that di...
dfurnad: Chad is fun. Most people who are offended by his actions take sports too seriously. Football is entertainment. And he has not been kicked...
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Chad brings a little bit of fun and laughter to the GAME. He's serious as heck when he's catching and running. Don't like it? Don't listen.
December 11, 2009 2:38 PM | Report Offensive Comments
I believe he should have the ability to have fun. What he is doing is not afefcting anyone. The only reason it has become "negative" is due to the fact that the NFL has become the No Fun League. Anything that brings amusement to the fans is not allowed. Back in the day there were great celebrations. Anyone remember the Icky shuffle?
December 11, 2009 2:51 PM | Report Offensive Comments
This whole thing is ridiculous. Ask Marvin Lewis or Carson Palmer who the hardest worker on the team is. They'll say Chad. Or watch "Hard Knocks." So he likes to have fun, big deal? He trains hard, practices hard, and plays hard. And guess what? The Bengals are 9-3. Quit picking on Chad and go cry about your Redskins.
December 11, 2009 6:47 PM | Report Offensive Comments
December 11, 2009 6:50 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Never heard of him. Next time you submit yourself to the hypnosis of watching the NFL keep a stop watch handy. Use it to total up the actual amount of time that players are playing the game. You will find that American football players spend most of the game standing around. It's no wonder they act up on occasion. Like children they get bored when there is nothing to do.
December 12, 2009 10:44 AM | Report Offensive Comments
I couldn't comment on all of the posts, so I'll just do it here.
The Bengals beat writer made the only point that matters: when Chad doesn't act this way, for some weird reason it seems to hurt his performance on the field. I don't understand it and don't care, but the only people who should (Coach, owner, team) all realize it and are fine with Chad as their teammate.
I'll add another point that does not make much news. What does the NFL do with all the fine money they collect? Donate it to charity. What does Chad do every time he gets fined by the NFL? Match that amount to charity. So for every dollar he gets fined, that's really two dollars to charity.
Someone could simply donate to charity, but what's the fun in that? He is using his personality and the No Fun League as a vehicle to give back to people not as fortunate as him, and it somehow helps his performance on the field.
And people want him to stop?
December 12, 2009 11:00 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Chad's antics are self-indulgent, and he obviously has no concern for his teammates or the league. The reason that players like Chad and T.O. selfishly grandstand is to get themselves in the limelight to try and increase lucrative opportunities for endorsements. But unlike a boxer like Muhammad Ali, who undoubtedly inspired T.O. and Chad to perform their antics, NFL players ARE team players,and childish stunts pulled by players like Chad are detrimental to the Bengals. Disciplinary action should be taken against this guy.
December 12, 2009 11:09 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Everyone except for the beat writer just puked out the tired and overused "hurts the team" line. Shouldn't they just be asking the team?
The NFL really is the no fun league. All this talk about Obama and fascism- someone should keep an eye on the NFL. It's a bit of a monarchy with Goodell at the top. Who is this guy that gets to pass judgment on the players? What is so wrong with a sombrero and a poncho? Was he insulting anyone? He was just having himself some fun. I don't get Ochocinco but I have nothing against the guy. I detest the idiots who get all preachy when talking about him though.
December 12, 2009 11:16 AM | Report Offensive Comments
to dubhlaoich -
Your comments about American football would indicate that that "other " football is exciting. About the most boring sport with a bunch running around doing basically nothing for 90 minutes. Very little action, very few scores, and when they do score they run around like demonically-possessed idiots. Go watch your silly game and leave the NFL alone.
By the way, I wish Chad would go play soccer to get his jerk antics away from a real game. Then when (or if) he scores, he could act even dumber that the guys who currently play.
December 12, 2009 11:25 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Regarding #85 for the Bengals and borrowing a phrase from the past. "There isn't enough mustard to cover that big hot dog" The guy is a 2nd class jerk.
December 12, 2009 12:11 PM | Report Offensive Comments
I wonder how much of this is racial. Ask yourself this: If John Riggins had donned a sombrero and serape on the sidelines back when he was playing, would you be just as offended?
December 12, 2009 12:14 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Well I try my best to be just like I am.
But everybody wants you to be just like them.
They say "sing while you slave," and I just get bored.
I ain't gonna work on Maggie's Farm no more.
Bob Dylan (nee Zimmerman), speaking out for Chad Hatchi Go long before Chad was born.
Get a life and a sense of humor folks! BTW, if his team has been hurt it sure doesn't show -- they are 9-3 and have a magic number of 1 to lock their division.
December 12, 2009 12:15 PM | Report Offensive Comments
What an ignorant topic. With so many important issues out there, even in the sports arena, Ochocinco and his antics don't even make the top 100.
Get a life!!
December 12, 2009 12:25 PM | Report Offensive Comments
There's no "i" in "team"
December 12, 2009 12:39 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Don't hate the player, hate the game!
Pro football is an entertainment business and Chad is a great entertainer.
He may not be one of the top 5 receivers in the league, but he is the one that most people can name because he was smart enough to create a persona and market himself.
December 12, 2009 12:47 PM | Report Offensive Comments
To all you haters I respectfully suggest you take a long drink of STFU. Chad loves to play football and it shows. He is a big kid who loves to compete (note hardest work ethic), he doesn't drink alcohol, doesn't do drugs, and does not get arrested.
Chad is known as one of the nicest NFL players who has a reputation of going out of his way to assist new players in the league to steer away from trouble. Sadly, instead we have to listen to these Monday morning quarterbacks and pretend analysts spew drivel about someone they know nothing about.
Chad is great for the Bengals and great for football.
December 12, 2009 2:21 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Guys a racist and a clown.
He's essentially stereotypin Mexican's..
People will remember him as a joke, not a great player.
DAN3 has it exactly right.
December 12, 2009 2:31 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Egomaniacs don't win games. Teams do. What are we saying to the youth of today about sportsmanship? That the coolest display of egocentrism will get you.....what?
December 12, 2009 2:58 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Egomaniacs don't win games... that's why the Bengals are 9-3. They don't have any. Chad may love himself, but he loves football and winning more. Try again.
December 12, 2009 3:03 PM | Report Offensive Comments
When ball players fight, the networks stopped showing it. When idiots jumped out of the stands to run naked across the field, the networks stopped showing it. How about this; stop showing clowns like Ocho-stinko when they go into their antics! Maybe they'll try to get attention some other way, like MAKING MORE PLAYS!
December 12, 2009 3:37 PM | Report Offensive Comments
To answer the initial question: if the word you use to describe someone's behavior is "antics", then No, it's not good for his team or the NFL.
To those who say, "but football is ENTERTAINMENT..." Yeah, but it's TEAM entertainment.
What he does takes away from his team, his coaches and everyone else connected to his on-field success.
He disrespects them by hogging the glory. He does NOTHING on the field if not for his teammates. He can't catch the ball unless someone throws it. That person can't throw unless the Linemen give him time. It goes on and on, but Chad doesn't care. It's ALL about him.
I think he's a self-aggrandizing PUNK.
December 12, 2009 3:43 PM | Report Offensive Comments
More ignorant comments. I love the people who talk about how much it hurts his team and coaches. How about listening to what the coaches and teammates have actually said this season? I have. I have family in Ohio and have kept up with their excitement this season.
You won't hear anything but praise for Chad, and how much of a true TEAM they are. The Bengals win by rushing the ball first, second and third, and with playing solid defense. They aren't the high-flying pass offense of yore. Do you hear Chad complaining, or excited about the prospects of getting to Miami? If you truly knew anything about Chad or the Bengals, it would be obvious.
December 12, 2009 4:13 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Ochocinco has been the consummate team player except for injecting a little fun into a sport that really takes itself WAAAY too seriously.
He prepares religiously, performs at a high level (top 12 in yards and touchdowns this year), doesn't get into trouble off the field and doesn't demean his teammates or other players.
If you're the kind of "teammate" that gets mad because your fellow teammate enjoys what he does, does it well and happens to show that he's enjoying himself, then you've really got to look within yourself and say "Self.... have I always been able to turn coal into diamonds with my rear-end?"
December 12, 2009 5:12 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Regardless of your view onthis player, as long as he is talented enough to catch the football and get yards after he catches it, and does not committ any criminal offense, the coaches and the NFL could care less about his antics. Team Killer? bad teamate? etc., call him what you want, he is a weapons Cincy needs. it is best that reporters and respected men like Coach Vermeil direct their attention to other issues such as the rash of concussions and how that problem can be resolved. The NFL is taking a closer look at the problem now because its knows that down the road, it is looking at a huge Class Action suit and will have to shell out millions to players who have been wrecked by the league's stupidity. Now there is a story!! Now that Man-child in Cincy!!
December 12, 2009 5:26 PM | Report Offensive Comments
The SportsCenter nation has spoken. If you're not a highlight, then you got nuthin'.
I coach high school basketball and have for a few years.
Young players seeing this crap think that they can get by with less talent but more showmanship. They don't see the hard work required to play at chad's level, they just see the spotlight.
It flat ruins their game when they showboat instead of play hard.
Trying to upstage your opponent should take place on the court or the field, not from the bench. (I hated Lebron's dance in the chicago game, he doesn't need to do that).
But, I don't think CO should be fined. I think he should be suspended for X number of games until he agrees to follow the rules that the league sets down. NOT playing is big punishment for an athlete, especially one with his sized ego.
December 12, 2009 7:05 PM | Report Offensive Comments
JOECAIRO, maybe you shouldn't be blaming Chad for the way SportsCenter nation works. "Showboat instead of play hard"....? As has been said numerous times in this blog, he's the hardest-working player on the Bengals. Carson Palmer said so, and he doesn't B.S. This discussion could have easily been called "The League discusses the turnaround of the Cincinnati Bengals from 1-11-1 to 9-3, and how the work ethic of their leading receiver has helped achieve that." Not as sexy, is it? He may have fun after he scores, but nobody plays harder to get there during the week. What a lesson for kids THAT is.
December 12, 2009 7:22 PM | Report Offensive Comments
"Little boy in a big body" Chad: At least take a moment from your self absorption to correct your Spanish. Eighty five is not ochocinco - it's ochenta y cinco,
December 12, 2009 7:54 PM | Report Offensive Comments
Although very talented and I think a good guy, at least a good citizen, Chad focuses at least as much on entertaining us as he does his job of being the best wide receiver he can be. I don't have a huge problem with a genuine, respectful celebration after scoring a hard to achieve touch down, but when it is scripted prior to the event, it has no place in amature or professional sports. Also, we don't need celebrations after a catch, first down, sack, etc. Too much bragging and too little sportsmanship. Suspend and fine Chad and others until they get the point. Ban them if necessary.
December 13, 2009 12:19 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Chad, just join up with the wrestling circuit. I like a good laugh but you're heading the NFL -- the only well managed sport -- into that direction. Start putting funny clothes on the players and giving them funny names, it'll all be just a show, all sizzle, no steak.
December 13, 2009 12:26 AM | Report Offensive Comments
Chad is fun. Most people who are offended by his actions take sports too seriously. Football is entertainment. And he has not been kicked out of town from location to location like a certain WR whose actions do affect his team negatively. Enjoy Chad during his brief time on the stage, and enjoy him enjoying himself!
December 13, 2009 2:47 AM | Report Offensive Comments