The League

NFL News Feed

Vick Could Be Partially Reinstated

UPDATED (9:14 p.m.)...

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell met Wednesday in New Jersey with Michael Vick and appears to be giving serious consideration to allowing Vick to sign with a team and participate in training camp practices but then possibly serve an additional suspension at the outset of the regular season, sources familiar with the case said Thursday evening.

The added suspension likely would last four to six games if it's included with Vick's reinstatement, said the sources, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the league's deliberations on the highly controversial case. The suspension, if imposed, would be without pay.

The sources cautioned that nothing had been firmly decided and that Goodell has complete authority in the matter and possibly still could change his mind. Any additional legal troubles for Vick almost certainly would result in a severe punishment being imposed by Goodell, the sources said.

Greg Aiello, the NFL's senior vice president of public relations, said Thursday night: "This is a serious matter. We are engaging in a careful and thoughtful process and no decisions have been made."

Vick currently is on indefinite suspension by the NFL. He was released from federal custody Monday. The quarterback missed the last two seasons while serving his federal sentence for his role in a dogfighting operation in Virginia. Vick is a free agent after being released by the Atlanta Falcons.

Sources said that Goodell met with Vick for between three and 3-1/2 hours Wednesday afternoon in New Jersey.

Sports Illustrated reported on its website that the meeting concluded around 4 p.m. Wednesday at Buckley Petersen Global Inc., a security firm in Allendale, N.J. According to the report, both Goodell and Vick were seen leaving the meeting.

It is not clear if any NFL team is interested in signing Vick, 29, if he is reinstated by Goodell, who imposed the suspension on Vick prior to the 2007 season.

ESPN reported that Goodell is expected to suspend Vick for four games when a conditional reinstatement is announced next week.

Vick met Tuesday with DeMaurice Smith, the executive director of the NFL Players Association, at an undisclosed location.

By Mark Maske  |  July 23, 2009; 6:37 PM ET  | Category:  Crime , League Save & Share:  Send E-mail   Facebook   Twitter   Digg   Yahoo Buzz   Del.icio.us   StumbleUpon   Technorati  
Previous: NFL Draft Moved to Prime Time | Next: Vote: What Is Right Vick Decision?

Comments

Please email us to report offensive comments.



A lot of you are railing on Gooddell, because the majority of you don't have the fortitude pull yourselves away from the television or the stadium parking lot!! It's not Gooddell's fault, or Vick's fault that you are slaves to football!! Vick this, Vick that, Goodell this, Gooddell that, the NFL this, the NFL that, it is YOU, who are the problem!!! How does what Vick does, or Gooddell does, or the NFL does, have ANY bearing on your lives? It is people-hating, that's all it is!!

You want to punish Vick for life, but you are not willing to accept punishment for your OWN sins!!! Why wish something on someone that you yourself are not ready, or able to go through!! And don't give me that, I wouldn't have did it, nonsense either, BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALREADY DONE SOMETHING GROSS IN YOUR LIVES!!!

It's just HYPOCRISY, that's all it is!! Vick deserves a second chance just like anybody else!!! Men beat the stew out of women, and the women take the man back, the majority of women take the man back, when asked why, their answer is: I love him!! You're as equally wrong as Vick is!!

People do all sorts of cruel things to each other, and are forgiven. Man's inhumanity to Man is probably the greatest display of rage on EARTH!!!

You had politicians, religious figures, and other people caught in the biggest sting in New Jersey's history, who called for them never to work again?

People are just jealous of the life and prestige of professional atheletes, big deal!! People wail about the stars of yesterday, who worked for peanuts, many of them die without health coverage. You want to help someone, help these former atheletes regain their quality of life again with health coverage. Your so righteous, but you won't even help the President get health coverage for all Americans!! Who cares what you think, DagnyT; you and those who voice this RIGID HATRED of Vick, you're all HATERS of human progress!!!

Posted by: sirjazz2002 | July 25, 2009 7:35 AM

I am a life long fan of the NFL, however the league commissioner has to set where the line is going to be drawn. I can’t stand to watch baseball, but find it ironic that a great baseball player can be banned for life and not even admitted to the hall of fame because he bet that his team would win games (I could have even seen it if he was throwing games, but he bet that his team would win!!) but in the NFL there is no limit to what a ball player can do and still be welcomed back and given huge contracts.

Michael Vick was a GREAT ball player, and I use to love to watch him play because that is how it is supposed to be done, and no one did it better. For as much as I loved to watch him there is no way the NFL should take him back. Vick didn’t just get in a little trouble (ie drug possession or a he said she said rape case that no one is sure did he or is she looking for a big pay out) he was financing a large dog fighting ring. For those who don’t really know dog fighting is the most cruel, inhuman thing you can ever do to a dog. These dogs are not just beat they are tortured and when they are no longer able to fight good old Vick would shoot them. Vick was not a low level thug who was doing this just for the money and saying “business is business” he already had more money than he knew what to do with which is why he stated dog fighting – he enjoyed the suffering, gore, and violence – that’s how he got his rocks off. Anyone who can stand there and listen to an animal scream in pain and find it funny and enjoyable is a truly sick, demented thug and has no right to play under the lights on the big stage. Let him go to Canada or over to Europe but this is not a man that our children should be looking up to.

Sooner or later the NFL is going to kill itself if the commissioner doesn’t start to draw “lines in the sand”. We as NFL fans should want to see athletes like Dan Marino, Brett Favre, John Elway, and Joe Montana (its funny that all the true greats that kept their noses clean are retired). These men were awe-inspiring on the field and gave back to the community through good works off the field. Why didn’t Vick spend his vast fortune building community centers to help young people instead of being a common thug?

Posted by: cowboy1278 | July 24, 2009 6:50 PM

Has he paid his debt to society? or has he gotten away with it.

Has he lost a whole boatload of money? Or is he still filthy rich.

I guess we have run out of redeeming qualities, must have used them all up on some pedophile, or rapist that did their time too, and only want to live and let live: oh wait those types seem to repeat their crimes....

Mike messed up big time, but get real he did not rape, or murder a human, yes to kill dogs is bad, but how many animals are put down weekly in shelters across this region ?? Yet there is no outcry for them?

Fine/Suspend and let the man get on with his life.

Posted by: jazzman_q | July 24, 2009 12:51 PM

jjack1 grow up

Vick is a murderer.

Posted by: vn11701 | July 24, 2009 12:30 PM

One question that no one has asked is what do players have to do, short of committing first degree murder, to by permanently banned from playing in the NFL?

Also, how does an "indefinite suspension" differ from a ban? It seems that an indefinite suspension is a way for NFL officials to leave players in limbo until they decide to reinstate or ban the player.

The NFL should have made a decision and taken a clear stance concerning Mr. Vick as soon as he was convicted.

Posted by: mercuryq | July 24, 2009 11:34 AM

PETA is a bunch of racist female dogs!!! They need to go and suck. Forget it. You know what I mean.

Posted by: jjack1 | July 24, 2009 11:29 AM

Vick, you dirty bum. You should be hung out to dry. Vick is the lowest form of life. I hope, if you do play football, you get creamed by a player who loves four legged dogs and despises the scum-bum dirty dog you are. Boy, are you a nothin'.

Posted by: Pete433 | July 24, 2009 11:21 AM

He has paid his debt to society. He has a right to make a living. PERIOD!

Everyone grow up.

Posted by: eps0609 | July 24, 2009 10:57 AM

He would lok good in burgundy and gold, and in less than a year will beat out Campbell. He's basically a native DC guy, it's a good fit.

Posted by: ScottChallenger | July 24, 2009 10:56 AM

Poor Michael, the world seems o want your financial death for sponsoring so animals fights. You did not rape a woman or women, you did not test positive for any illegal substance, you did not carry a concealed weapon, you were not caught driving drunk, you were not unfaithful to your wife, you did not beat her up, there were no guns in your houses, and you did not kill a single dog! Now many of the people who want you financially dead have done some of those things. There are players still active in all sports who have done worst than you. They are still cheered by the same people who are against you, they are still getting their paychecks. Worse, some of your detractors are guilty of some of the same things they are blaming you for. Where is fairness in all this? Since you went to jail, how many dog fights, legal and illegal have taken place in this country? No one knows,but you alone are paying for a displaced sense of outrage. Michael, you have people like myself and millions other out there who wish you well! Let God be the judge.

Posted by: info22 | July 24, 2009 10:46 AM

NFL is entertainment business. They need someone like Vick to draw more people whether they like it or not. I won't be surprised at all if I see him this fall on the field. It's just a business.

Posted by: freephk1 | July 24, 2009 10:30 AM

Partial Reinstatement is FUed...

What Vick can't bring dogs to the games and can't use his regular throwing arm.

When will reality become a factor in the NFL !

Posted by: danglingwrangler | July 24, 2009 9:57 AM

It is NOT a coincidence that Vick is being released just before camps start.

He'll play somewhere this year.

Posted by: bmo63 | July 24, 2009 9:57 AM

If Vick is reinstated, then the public's reaction will be key. Frankly, I hope that if he does play there are defensive linemen and tackles on the opposing team that will put him in a world of hurt - and possible some offensive linemen who will "accidentally" let some of those tackles through the line.

Myself? I will not watch any of his team's games on TV nor will I buy anything from the sponsors. We each will make our own decision on this matter when the time comes.

Posted by: Utahreb | July 24, 2009 9:43 AM

posted by: g3impreza
"Whatever, look at the rest of the players in the league. Stallworth killed a man while drunk, Ben raped some poor girl after the espys, McNair was shot for abandoning his long time affair, then you have plaxico. I mean wtf are these people doing. Stallworth kills a man while drunk and barely serves jail time for it. Involuntary man-slaughter is what, a 25 year maximum, and the judge imposes a few months? This is BS. So vick killed a few DOGS. Pittbulls to be exact. The nature of these dogs is to fight anyhow"
__________

You're a f'n moron! To have those dogs tear your sorry bleep up would be a treat.

Posted by: crumppie | July 24, 2009 9:42 AM

VIck has paid his debt to society, he has done his time and paid huge fines for dogs. Players have been punished less for beating their spouses. Let the man back in the game forget suspending him he has already lost enough time. The vikings need a quarted back, the raiders need a quarterback. Put a restraining order on the dogs of America and let Vick play the sport he ecels in. Goodell needs to give it up. No more fines or penalties.

Posted by: kew_kew | July 24, 2009 9:39 AM

The NFL is a business, and I would assume Goodell is making this decision based on what he believes is best for the NFL. The factors he will be weighing are overall image, whether Vick will continue to exhibit criminal behavior (and therefore be unable to stay in the league), whether Vick in a jersey will bring more people in or push more people away, etc. These are the factors, not fairness, or if Vick is a moral person, etc.

I personally have never looked at athletes as role models, to me they are people. There are many athletes who are upstanding citizens and many who have committed crimes or behaved in questionable ways. In my mind, Vick has done awful things, and I do not have any idea of whether his incarceration has changed him as a person. But truthfully, I don’t really care. If I had to like or respect every player on the team I rooted for, I am guessing it would be a pretty lousy team.

Posted by: Matt27 | July 24, 2009 9:24 AM

Whatever, look at the rest of the players in the league. Stallworth killed a man while drunk, Ben raped some poor girl after the espys, McNair was shot for abandoning his long time affair, then you have plaxico. I mean wtf are these people doing. Stallworth kills a man while drunk and barely serves jail time for it. Involuntary man-slaughter is what, a 25 year maximum, and the judge imposes a few months? This is BS. So vick killed a few DOGS. Pittbulls to be exact. The nature of these dogs is to fight anyhow, i could honestly care less. It is terrible, i would never do it. But now its over. Vick served more time for killing dogs then stallworth did for killing a person. The league already made an example of Vick. Thanks to all the animal rights political agenda's. Politics should not determine ones fate in court. I thinik vick should be given a second chance. We all make mistakes, vick the idiot decided to gamble on dogs killing each other which is terrible, but hey at least he is not killing people while high on drugs. If a player proves to be a criminal in the off season, he should have to forfeit all his earnings. Look at the examples these idiots are giving to the young kids in this generation.

Posted by: g3impreza | July 24, 2009 9:23 AM

Who the HADES are you to pronounce such heavy-handed JUDGEMENT? YOU SHOULD BE MADE TO EXPERIENCE ALL THAT VICK HAS EXPERIENCED, THEN YOU WILL BE TRULY QUALIFIED TO SAY WHO HAS CHANGED and WHO has NOT CHANGED!!!

WOE, To those without forgiveness nor compassion, for they are EQUALLY DISEASED!!!

Posted by: sirjazz2002 | July 23, 2009 11:38 PM
___________________________

Sirjazz,

The point of these comments is to express opinions -- i.e. judgments. It is my judgement that Michael Vick has committed evil acts and that he is undeserving of any consideration. And it is my opinion that the NFL should not reinstate him.

You are entitled to your opinions. I would think more highly of you if you would stop judging those of us who have opinions different from yours.

Posted by: DagnyT | July 24, 2009 9:20 AM

Hey, look everybody. You can be a scum of the earth criminal, go to prison and still,..STILL some in society will turn a blind eye and take that criminal and try to twist it into a sports idle for all to revere, all for the sake of the dollar. Hear that AIG, Goldman Sachs.... oh wait they have nothing to fear, they haven't even been investigated. I guess since no human was killed in any of the above, its all good.
God help us all with making the right and ethical choices because, clearly, they are not being made down here.

Posted by: GClausen | July 24, 2009 8:55 AM

MV might have paid his debt to society but the NFL doesn't judge its players soley on that. His character is highly controversial even beyond the dog fighting and frankly I wouldn't want him to be in my corporation. He brings a lot of baggage and a very poor image. Forget the touchdowns, forget the athleticism, he is a poor example of an ethical organization.

The Commish has made a strong case for improving the image of the NFL player and as hard as this is to swallow (MV is very talented) it sends a clear signal that players have to appear more ethical in their off the field life. Forget past precident on DUIs, short jail sentences that allowed other players to be reinstated. Each NFL player is judged on his own merit (or lack of merit).

MV has a right to work. Each company (including the NFL) has a right to not hire. Thus paying his debt to society is not relevant to this matter.

Posted by: MI-Sooner | July 24, 2009 8:47 AM

I'm tired of people stating that Vick "made a mistake"! "A mistake" is singular and this sick cockroach made NUMEROUS MISTAKES!!! He will never change and anyone that panders to him, is just as sick. He'll make another "mistake" soon, so stay tuned.

Posted by: RedDragonLady | July 24, 2009 8:35 AM

"Michael Vick made a mistake". One repeated over and over again for many years including throwing in family pets into dog fighting rings because he thought it was funny. Oh but he made a little mistake.

Posted by: c_etude | July 24, 2009 8:32 AM

Soon-very soon-America will be cheering a *dog fighter* and call him hero, and the youths in America will want to be like Vick-the dog fighter. Now isn't that special. Thank you NFL. Your morality just take me back in awe.

Posted by: c_etude | July 24, 2009 8:30 AM

Goodell Considers Partial Reinstatement for Vick.


Vick is a convicted felon. His mommy said my boy is a good boy. Michael would never do anything wrong. The NFL is more interested in celebrity and fame than in morality. Screw U.S. football. What a hoax.

Posted by: swatkins1 | July 24, 2009 8:12 AM

NFL players are very public figures. They are heroes to our children. Do we really want to reinstate and lucratively reward a man that is so cruel? It is not just that he participated in a crime. This man personally beat to death dogs. He electrocuted dogs. He hung dogs. Because they did not perform to his satisfaction, were not mean enough and showed the true 'pit bull' temperament which is not vicious. Try for a moment to imagine the scenes from hell in your mind as he did these awful things to dogs. Do we want him held up as a national sports hero? I certainly don't! Yes, he has served his time, but he should not be reinstated, just as pedophile priests should not be reinstated!

Posted by: MaryDobes | July 24, 2009 7:59 AM

Michael Vick made a mistake. He went to jail and served his time. He should not have to pay for the same mistake for the rest of his life.

This message is for the high and mighty people who feel the need to throw stones at this man.

How many incidents have you committed in which you didn't get caught? Have you participated in premarital sex, abortions, stealing (office supplies anyone?), lying, fraud (tax time), extramarital affairs, etc?

So, if you are going to be a moral compass, make sure you are walking on the straight and narrow.

We don't know what is in Michael Vick's heart. We have no idea if he feels remorse or not. He doesn't have to grovel, beg, or cry just to prove to the public that he is sorry.

The public doesn't own celebrities. They are not our puppets. Buying a Michael Vick jersey or attending a game doesn't give us the right to dictate his life.

I know I have made mistakes that I don't have to pay daily for. The bible says God's mercies are new every morning. If God forgives, then who are we not to?

LIVE AND LET LIVE.

"Not a sermon, just a thought."

Posted by: abootstrapper | July 24, 2009 7:07 AM

Take a few minutes to think about things. No one knows what is going on in MV's head. We can only observe his actions.

1. MV tested positive for drugs while awaiting trial which was a parole violation. People who are genuinely concerned about their crimes don't violate their parole.

2. A major factor in the Judge's decision to sentence Vick beyond his plea agreement was his un-remorseful demeanor during the sentencing, and he never admitted to killing dogs himself although evidence as well as a polygraph showed otherwise. People who are genuinely sorry for their actions act remorseful and don't lie about them.

Obviously he showed no signs of "learning a lesson" before prison, so what about after?

Since his release he hasn't had time to prove otherwise. Ok, he said he will aid the humane society and other animal protection organizations. Is it sincere, or is he just attempting to appease the people. To me it is no different than all of the money he put into charity to shut his fans up when he would make a fool of himself on occasion before he was convicted of any crimes.

Like the time he gave his fans the double-bird and donated $10k to youth charities. Did the donation make him a better role model and erase his obscene gesture? No, but it shut up the fans. He grew accustomed to the "hush money" principal by donating much money to youth organizations to "keep his good name." Of course, he was a habitual no-show when these organizations arranged meet-and-greets to recognize him and allow the young fans, who his money had positively affected, to shake their hero's hand. This leads me to believe that most of his actions were not genuine.

The NFL should also consider his current suspended sentence in VA. If he commits any crimes, even minor ones, until his suspended-probationary period is over he will end up in a state penitentiary serving his sentence. He must walk a very fine line for a very long time.

He does have the motivation to do good things, sincere or not, to pay his back taxes, creditors, keep the millions in assets that his family enjoys at his expense, and various other debts totaling probably over $10 million, or go back to prison. Why he refuses to liquidate all of his expensive homes and force his family to live within his means baffles me, but if he isn't re-instated he will be forced to. Even if he is re-instated he probably won't make enough money to continue his expected lifestyle.

Personally, I believe he should not be re-instated for a season or two, or until he has shown he can be responsible to a new team and not fail them like he did the Falcons and the NFL. That's right; a season in the minor would give him a chance to show what he is made of. In reality, he will probably be re-instated this year. If for nothing else, so he can pay the Falcons the millions he owes them in pro-rated bonus money he defaulted on when he was suspended.

Posted by: sanzoku | July 24, 2009 2:36 AM

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell feels the need to once again judge Michael Vick. The sad thing is if we dig through Goodell life what misdeeds will we uncover! Any person running a organization like the NFL who has a problem reinstating Vick violates what it truly means to be American, a Human Being, and one of God's children!

I'm a big dog lover, and dog fighting gets me angry too! Mainly if we say to Vick you can never play Football again or give this crazy suspension rule we are saying to children commit a mistake and it will never go away! Many People here make valid points to with Bush, Cheney, McCain and all the others who owned up to the War in Iraq! If I close my eyes and go over this in my mind as Vick being a White Quarterback I wonder why I see day one the Quarterback (White) exits jail his new team has already signed him!

If Goodell doesn't reinstate Vick or make him play under some silly suspension, it will serve no valid argument to anyone! Or will it serve the wrong message to take Vick through all this? The ball is in Goodell court and the lines have been drawn in the sand..............Now Choose!

By the Way I would never support PEDA because yes the child who killed the Cats should have received all the attention in the world from PEDA, but the problem is he was a 15 year old White child who PEDA's excuse is may be he didn't know any better! Sounds a bit strange too me! So PEDA you get the Middle Finger for your one sided attack show on Michael Vick!

Posted by: ifordc | July 24, 2009 1:56 AM

DagnyT, you sound like you are jealous, because you can't get said multi-millions of dollar contract!!

You can't see what Vick must be feeling, after knowing that he blew a golden chance, and the pain that he lives with each and every day.

You are so consummed with HATE, that you can't see straight, you think he doesn't see the truth? Well, neither do you!!! When you spend any amount of time behind bars, believe me, you see the error of your ways!!! When your life plays like an endless LOOP around your brain, every single day, and you have to relive your life and your errors, the good times, and the bad times, you SEE where you went wrong!!

Believe me, Michael Vick KNOWS who his enemies are, who his friends are, all the people who used him, he sees what he had, and WHAT HE LOST!!!

Who the HADES are you to pronounce such heavy-handed JUDGEMENT? YOU SHOULD BE MADE TO EXPERIENCE ALL THAT VICK HAS EXPERIENCED, THEN YOU WILL BE TRULY QUALIFIED TO SAY WHO HAS CHANGED and WHO has NOT CHANGED!!!

WOE, To those without forgiveness nor compassion, for they are EQUALLY DISEASED!!!

Posted by: sirjazz2002 | July 23, 2009 11:38 PM

Again for the wit-challenged:

A society cannot arbitrarily apply moral principles. If you truly abhor Vick's actions, how can you stand for the actions of Blackwater Security guards in Iraq? How can you stand for our military killing civilians for corporate profits?

Hypocrisy doesn't come with bells and whistles! Hypocrisy is transparent to the hypocrite!

Posted by: peaceful2008 | July 23, 2009 11:34 PM


Vick is not entitled to any consideration. If he gets reinstated he is one of the luckiest people on the planet. In fact, he was one of the luckiest when he was with the NFL and raking in millions yet was compelled to kill dogs with his bare hands and profit from their killing of each other.

Creepy are the people here who think an evil jerk like Michael Vick deserves any consideration whatsoever, let alone another multi-million contract with the NFL.

Posted by: DagnyT | July 23, 2009 11:07 PM

Vick,deserves the right to be re-instated after serving his sentence.

My bigger question is why Darth Cheney hasn't served his sentence (death penalty)??? Instead he is being put in charge of a "think tank" to spew greed, inhumanity and shameless propaganda.

Cheney is much more dangerous to our society than M. Vick

Where is the outrage?

Posted by: peaceful2008 | July 23, 2009 10:59 PM


And keep your WHITE NASTY AS B*TCHES at home.

Posted by: K2007 | July 23, 2009 10:13 PM
____________________________

Talk about racist. You are disturbed.

Michael Vick is a disgrace to the NFL and a disgrace to the human race.

And so, K2007, are you.

Cheers.

Posted by: DagnyT | July 23, 2009 10:49 PM

"...7 dogs lives equals one human life."

To kendc29: That is fascinating. How does that work? Can you explain why 7 and not 8? Or, 6? Does it take 14 small dogs to equal one human life? Great Danes - they go about 2 dogs for 1 small person? Is there a math thing you use? Please help me know why 7?

What has any dog ever produced, designed, created, except poop? We are like them in that regard.

Posted by: Y5514 | July 23, 2009 10:34 PM

Let the guy play. Period. Mike Wise said all the right things on this in The Post today.
In this country, we have presidents who lie us into war, violate the Geneva Convention, break every tradition of a decent people, then retire to comfort. Give me a break. Yes, yes, Mr. Vick did some bad things. I am the biggest dog lover around and cried when my golden retriever died in March. She was better than most people. But if as a people we lack the ability to forgive, then we are little better than the perpetrators of terrible deeds.

Posted by: royhobbs56 | July 23, 2009 10:26 PM

Humans have evolved with dogs for the past 20,000 years or so. While dogs aren't primates, their evolution along side with us (human induced natural selection) made them about as close to humans as possible.

Vick plead guilty to financing an operation where many dogs needlessly died. Oddly self-destructive and ghetto.

How many dogs are worth a human life? To me, about 7.

In total days living, 7 dogs lives equals one human life.

Posted by: kendc29 | July 23, 2009 10:25 PM

"...the nerve of you people to suggest there is no RACSIM in this country"

To K2007: You certainly made your point with just about every word out of your mouth.

Posted by: Y5514 | July 23, 2009 10:22 PM

I agree with the posting that he should play, however it should be without pay for more than 4-5 games, AND, he should only sign with a team with a weak offensive line and he should play only against the teams with the best and meanest defensive ends, who also happen to be dog lovers and proper role models off the field.

Posted by: scootboo2737 | July 23, 2009 10:18 PM

Should Mike Vick be reinstated: YES

Should that WHITE BOY that killed 19 cats go to jail: YES (

I do not hear the CRACKERS nor PETA talking about the CATS and the nerve of you people to suggest there is no RACSIM in this country.

And keep your WHITE NASTY AS B*TCHES at home.

Posted by: K2007 | July 23, 2009 10:13 PM

Shouldn't have even been in jail. Should have done community service. IT'S A DOG! Get a grip. Why is there even a FELONY law regarding animals? Why do people feel so guilty about being people, and dogs being dogs? This man is in more trouble than many who commit violent crimes against PEOPLE; he certainly is more vilified. What a sad statement on our values as a society, so-called.

Posted by: Y5514 | July 23, 2009 9:58 PM

Well, I'm the farthest thing from a Vick fan (terrible QB, lousy work ethic). But he served his sentence. What possible purpose does it serve for the NFL to punish him further?

Posted by: Ombudsman1 | July 23, 2009 9:52 PM

Posted by: jnelson631 | July 23, 2009 9:16 PM

Everyone should take some time and read the posted I reference above.

I was a huge Vick fan prior to the issues he has ran into. Obviously I liked him for his ability on the football field, and, had I known more about his off the field life, I probably would have had a different view.

The dude made terrible choices, not a mistake. It was a pattern, not a single occurence, which is why he was put in prison for so long. Had he simply organized a single fight, I would say, give him a month. But the pattern showed that he had some real issues, and needed to be locked up and taken away from society to realize the choices he was making were not acceptable.

This is a touchy issue on many accounts, but he was released from prison and should have a chance to right the ship. Businesses hire convicted felons everyday; some are white collar crooks, who although they may not be physically dangerous, usually cause more financial pain, there are violent criminals, and then there are in betweens, like Vick is.

The judge and jury already ruled and the time was served. Lets all hope it was well-served and this young man got the message and his pattern of terrible choices will end.

We will only know this if he is given a shot at the only profession he knows and excels in. Our justice system routinely gives out sentences less than what Vick served for vehicular manslaughter, and that is killing a human (worse in my opinion).

Lets simply say that 2 years in prision is a long time. The dude is broke after all of these people came after him. His life is a mess already. The basic human decency in me says, give him a chance. This could turn into one of the best stories of sports in a long time.

The worst that can happen if he gets into trouble again? Suspend him forever, case closed. Either way, we can use him as a great example of fame to failure, or (hopefully) fame to failure; then back to a fame one can be proud of.

Kindly,
Dog-lover

Posted by: m1ke3i6 | July 23, 2009 9:50 PM

Vick paid for his blood sport perversions with innocent animals, but that doesn't mean the NFL has to set him up as a another sicko role model for youth. Doing so says more about values in the NFL than it does about Vick.

If he does go back, I will hope every sunday that he sustains an injury as painful as what those dogs went through.

Posted by: hill_marty | July 23, 2009 9:47 PM

PETA is racists like most WHITES. I see PETA is not crying foul about the WHITE boy in FL killing 19 cats.

I tell you, WHITES hate to see BLACKS doing well and making money. Eat your heart out MFers and go back to the trailer park.

Posted by: K2007 | July 23, 2009 9:39 PM

Oh my god. How come it's not discussed how cruel football is to people? On any Sunday you can see a person maimed for life. Thats just pro football what about high school and collage. Bones breaking, ligaments tearing, repeated concussions. Nobody seems to care about that. So what who plays cause they get torn apart any way.

Posted by: Danno1313 | July 23, 2009 9:38 PM

There are many defensive ends in the NFL that are dog lovers. Let Vick play. What goes around comes around.

Posted by: rcasero | July 23, 2009 9:33 PM

I have two dogs and I like them better than I like most people. That being said, it seems to me that a lot of people are combining several issues and then taking their frustrations and despair with the weakness in a system of laws out on one man. I wouldn't want him living in my neighborhood but it is a free country. He could buy the house next door and there would be nothing I could do about it. He did screw up, he got put in jail, and he was released. What does that have to do with him getting a job? One problem we have in this country is laws that let people, especially those with money, off lightly. Another is punishing them by not allowing them access to gainful employment upon release. Is he sick? Maybe. Did he get off too easy? Probably. Should he be allowed to work? Seperate issue altogether. Athletes are not role models, they are athletes, some of which are role models. Just like any other profession/job. I'm a teacher and I can think of several people I have worked with that I wouldn't want to teach my child. Let the man work. Hate the sin, forgive the sinner. If he still needs punishing; send him to Detroit.

Posted by: jnelson631 | July 23, 2009 9:16 PM

The people posting here who claim that Vick "made a mistake" and that we as a society need to help him move on are disgusting. This thug is monster with a mean streak a mile wide. The fact that the NFL is even considering letting him play again speaks volumes about the degradation of professional football in the interest of profits.

The NFL needs to flush all these bad actors and make their players role models of good character to be emulated, not bad boyz off the field who teach young, impressionable adolescents that it is cool to be a morally bankrupt and cruel gangster.

The NFL has a public responsibility that transcends income from TV rights. Be an adult, Commissioner Goodell, and do the right thing. Banish Michael Vick for life and let him take up cage wrestling or something else more suitable for his total lack of character and class.

Posted by: hisroc | July 23, 2009 9:13 PM

I see that the PETA pals have made their appearance!!

Knowthelaw, what can you do but whine and complain? If Vick had served a hundred years, it still wouldn't be good enough for you!! You are just a people-HATER, and very overbearing, and heavy-handed!! I wonder how anyone gets a word in edgewise over you. Are you a frustrated athlete, with the video game mentality?

You should be made to endure a similar fate, and don't say it couldn't happen either, maybe you don't fight dogs, but, you have other vices, maybe you have a few women on the side, and are lying to your girlfriend, who knows? Those who are devoid of forgiveness, are EQUALLY CRUEL!!!

You're not PERFECT!! STOP POSTING LIKE YOU ARE WITHOUT SPOT NOR BLEMISH!!

Posted by: sirjazz2002 | July 23, 2009 9:08 PM


Michael Vick is evil. And the NFL doesn't care.

Some image maker his football comeback would be.

Posted by: DagnyT | July 23, 2009 9:07 PM

Michael Vick and his lawyer has already had to deny an rumor that he was in an Strip Club on his first day of Freedom.
I can't think people would be so irresponsible for saying things like that.

http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-now-vick-denies-strip-club-rumor,0,4593722.story

Posted by: FlashClements | July 23, 2009 9:01 PM

I hope he gets back on track and plays super. Maybe he got to work out and practice passing during exercise period. His pen pals might have given him some good coaching advice. That's what happens in the movies.

Posted by: xena9340 | July 23, 2009 8:50 PM

Will the NFL really put more wealth in the hands that were used to electrocute, strangle, and drown dogs? Wealth to practice his hobby elsewhere? God knows what other horrors those animals suffered at the hands of that loathsome, cruel thing and his buddies. Anyone who can see any aspect of his crimes as acceptable in any way has a withered soul.

Posted by: vickie105 | July 23, 2009 8:49 PM

We all in our society, must help citizens do what they do best, without too many controls of the state. Let's face it - Michael Vick made a mistake. So let's help him move beyond this mistake. Michael Vick will always remember what he did and what he can do to help our society.


Posted by: Mathguy1 | July 23, 2009 8:23 PM

-------------------
No..the only mistake made was Vick was stupid enough to get caught. People get involve with dog fighting either because they have that built in cruel mentality or either they just need the money. Vick did not need the money so it was just in his character, not a mistake. The man would do it again given the chance of not getting caught. The man has a flawed character like a child abuser or sex offender, the kind that needs to be taken off the street and away from decent society.

Posted by: matrox | July 23, 2009 8:48 PM

I find it amazing when people say "He's learned his lesson" or "He's done his time". Unfortunately animal rights laws are extremely poor and people often are not punished harshly enough. Saying that this sick ingrate has learned his lesson is a joke. Do you know the percentage of people who go to prison and dont learn their lesson? The only thing he has learned is to be more careful and that he can screw up and will still have a place in the NFL. Pathetic. Sirjazz if you think Vick can some day be a role model for kids, all I have to say is I pray to god that you never have children. Dont be so ignorant. Its people like you who make excuses for wife beaters, animal abusers, and other criminals. Stop making excuses for people. Vick is a crappy excuse of a human being with absolutely no respect for other living creatures. End of the story. And I am almost certain he prays to jesus and thanks jesus for this and that. Yes im sure your jesus would be so pleased that you beat and murder animals vick. I hope you suffer for the rest of your life. Karma is not done with you yet.

Posted by: KnowtheLaw | July 23, 2009 8:48 PM

Could be my a$$, he will be. This is about money not Vick's and the NFL's lack of morals. Its about money and money overides morals 110% of the time if the price is right. The NFL would sell out Jesus Christ and his momma if it means increasing the size of their back statements. So its just a matter of time until the NFL stops playing these public games of pretending to be thinking of what to do about Vick and his immoral behavior. The NFL is full of sh!tz because its just a matter of tyme before they feel the public has bought all the BS of pretense before they bring him back in like a big Dollar$ sign.
s

Posted by: matrox | July 23, 2009 8:41 PM

now the question is which team is interested in signing him? and what role he would play with his new team after a 2 year layoff?

Posted by: goodtogo28 | July 23, 2009 8:39 PM

Michael Vick will play for someone. There are too many teams, without a quarterback for Vick to remain on the sideline for very much longer. The need for teams to win, will put Vick back into the game.

As far as this newest twist, if it goes through, Vick can do no worse than he's already done, out of the game for two seasons, served time in the Federal Pen, the public is completely down on him, right now, a few games suspension will hurt him no worse than what he's already gone through. If this goes through, he will be allowed to practice, and study, so he should be ready to step in, when the time comes. I believe Vick has learned his lesson, and I believe that he will become a statesman for the N.F.L., a true role-model that kids can learn from. He is still young at 29, and now with this wealth of humility and learning from his ordeal, he is definitely matured mentally. You don't spend time in the "Pen" and don't learn SOMETHING!! I think Vick will become more of a pocket passer because his speed is probably gone, he won't be able to escape as much, so he will have to wait for receivers to come open. His time away, is equivalent to a player who has suffered a major injury, and is on the "comeback trail". Vick will do well, give the man a chance, he's served his time, he's complied in every way. It is time to put Michael Vick under center once again.

Posted by: sirjazz2002 | July 23, 2009 8:29 PM

We all in our society, must help citizens do what they do best, without too many controls of the state. Let's face it - Michael Vick made a mistake. So let's help him move beyond this mistake. Michael Vick will always remember what he did and what he can do to help our society.

Posted by: Mathguy1 | July 23, 2009 8:23 PM

The comments to this entry are closed.

 
RSS Feed
Subscribe to The Post

© 2010 The Washington Post Company