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Vick deserves another leash on life.

You, farfalle44, really are the perfect character reference for Michael Vick.

UH, KEN, I THINK THAT COMMENT GETS MY VOTE FOR NUTTER OF THE YEAR, WHICH YOU CLEARLY ARE, YOU FLAMING IDIOT! YOU NUTTERS ALL WORKED UP ABOUT VICK AND HIS KILLING MACHINE PIT BULLS-ENGAGING IN BLOODSPORT-WHICH IS LEGAL IN MANY PARTS OF THE WORLD-ARE EFFING OUT OF YOUR MIND-BUT GO AND DO SOME SWISHY PANSY "BOYCOTT" OF THE NFL -IT WON'T MAKE A DAMN BIT OF DIFFERENCE!

GO VICKS! WE SUPPORT YOU 100%!

Posted by: farfalle44 | July 28, 2009 3:24 AM
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You, farfalle44, really are the perfect character reference for Michael Vick.

KenDC wrote:

"Vick did crimes equivalent to child molestation"

UH, KEN, I THINK THAT COMMENT GETS MY VOTE FOR NUTTER OF THE YEAR, WHICH YOU CLEARLY ARE, YOU FLAMING IDIOT! YOU NUTTERS ALL WORKED UP ABOUT VICK AND HIS KILLING MACHINE PIT BULLS-ENGAGING IN BLOODSPORT-WHICH IS LEGAL IN MANY PARTS OF THE WORLD-ARE EFFING OUT OF YOUR MIND-BUT GO AND DO SOME SWISHY PANSY "BOYCOTT" OF THE NFL -IT WON'T MAKE A DAMN BIT OF DIFFERENCE!

GO VICKS! WE SUPPORT YOU 100%!

wmwilliams14:
Like I said, you are saying more about yourself than you are about this psycho.

Vick did crimes equivalent to child molestation, there is absolutely no excuse for abusing innocent life.

There is no "forgiveness" on absolutely heinous acts, the damage has already been done.

Hopefully, Vick will live out his existence in misery.

Ken,

I think you've misread this crowd.

Especially on #3.

And you might want to add another category. I'm among those who will complain to corporations associated with Vick or any team that picks him up.

Here's a poll...

If Michael Vick is reinstated, you would:

1. Boycott all games for the team he plays for.
2. Never watch football again.
3. Not care, because you can relate to him since you're part of the half of the population who voted for GW or barely finished high school.
4. He doesn't get signed and hope for his suicide.

Hey Mr Editor, how about a simple vote/poll on this topic ? I would really like to see how many people here are in favour of this decision and how many are against it .

Maybe I'm being naive, but I'm not at all sure that Vick will make anyone money. I've been a Redskin fan all my life (that's 55+ years) and if they even seriously considered signing him, I'd be cured of my life-long addiction. I cannot imagine that I am anywhere near the only one who feels that way. The loss of fans and related revenue such as team merchandise I would think, and hope, make any team think twice before signing this sociopath.

Many of the Vick fans here are equating meat eating and Vick's actions. Really? Did you torture your cow to death tonight before eating, did you slowly tear apart your pig before having pork chops? This man is a psycho sadist and the people supporting him are saying far more about themselves than they are about this scum.

Posted by: devluddite | July 27, 2009 6:18 PM
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Have you seen some of the specials about chicken farms and how they live before they are slaughtered? Besides, whether you torture them or not, a dead animal is still a dead animal. Do you think it sadistic to hunt for sport? Did you boycott the Palin rallies because she and her husband shoot moose and wolves and let them die a slow death?

Get off your soap box because you're just another hypocrite?

I'm glad Vick gets a second chance. If it wasn't Michael Vick, we would never had even heard about this story. Let the man earn a living in what he does best.

HOOOOooooo llet the dawgs out!!???
(awrgh arwgh-ARWGH!!!!!)

Smith said:

"There were indications Monday evening that Vick's representatives were in contact with several teams."

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT TOO-FOR ALL YOU PRISSY-A$$ BOYCOTTERS-YOU GO KNOCK YOURSELVES OUT-MEANWHILE, THE NFL WANTS VICKS BACK-THEY KNOW HE'S HUNGRY TO PROVE HIMSELF, AND THE FANS ARE HUNGRY TO SEE HIM SHOW HIS STUFF, AND BE A PRODUCTIVE MEMBER OF SOCIETY AGAIN-YOU GO VICKS-WE'RE BEHIND YOU 100!

This is disgusting. And here is why.
BECAUSE THIS DECISION IS ALL MONEY.
Vick has money and is a money maker. You think anyone else who had killed dogs like that would be allowed to return to work ?
There is nothing more disgusting than reducing a high profile player's sentence because of his image. Dante Stallworth just killed a man and only got a month's sentence.
This case is no different. MY faith in the NFL has been shattered.

I don't even own a dog and all i can say is that this person is a shame for mankind, do not allow this sick soul in any type of job ever, other than rottening in jail for the rest of life

I am very conflicted by this but found that the Commish is doing the right thing. Vick will be a better person if he is forced to follow the rules and guidance that are being set forth. If the NFL cuts him loose totally, he will be an ex-con w/o much prospects for legal employment. I do think that the NFL has to keep a very short leash on him. If he gets into trouble he should be tossed, or else the NFL will look very bad.

I think it's all very disturbing. I agree that for convicted felons they are not and should never be allowed to return to their former jobs. It seems like most of these athletes that commit crimes are always vindicated in some way or another. Wouldn't it be nice if we could all do exactly what we want whether it be legal or illegal and no one would ever fault us. These athletes that are paid millions of dollars should all be above reproach.

Are there any Christians out there?
Dog lovers are a strange breed; they seemingly love animals but show no love and/or forgiveness for a fellow human. The hatred shown in some posted comments is sickening. Martha Stewart served time and went back to her career without missing a beat. Why should things be different for Vick?
He was wrong and society punished him for his wrongdoings. He deserves another chance to do what he wants to do - be an NFL player.

Posted by: cej62107 | July 27, 2009 6:30 PM

Michael Vick brutalized, tortured, and executed fellow mammals.

Martha Stewart simply stole money.

Maybe there are fewer Christians out there, it can only be good fewer people believe in fairy tails.

Where are the people that believe in leprechauns?

Well, I used to watch the NFL. This decision wasn't about the race card, wasn't about crime and punishment, and wasn't about rehabing Vicks criminal tendancies. IT WAS SOLELY A MONEY MATTER...and not for vick.

goodell doent give a damn about michael vick, all he cares about is the cares and wishes of the old money team owners. and apparently some of those blood suckers think there is a buck to be made yet off vick and maybe some playoff bonus money for them.

I will be boycotting the NFL not out of spite for vick, hes just an ignorant undereducated criminal who doesnt know how to do anything but throw a ball, it's not his fault its societies fault for letting people like him happen. I will be boycotting the NFL because the money, power, and policy decisions rest with the owners. Until they reign in their greed and nothing but football matters attitude they can do with one less nielson house on the tally sheet each week. Vince Mcmahon of the WWE has more integrity and scruples than the NFL owners cabal and their puppet Roger Goodell.

I will support any team that reinstates him. Additionally, the NFL has no business suspending him for any games. He served his time.

Are there any Christians out there?
Dog lovers are a strange breed; they seemingly love animals but show no love and/or forgiveness for a fellow human. The hatred shown in some posted comments is sickening. Martha Stewart served time and went back to her career without missing a beat. Why should things be different for Vick?
He was wrong and society punished him for his wrongdoings. He deserves another chance to do what he wants to do - be an NFL player.

Posted by: cej62107 | July 27, 2009 6:30 PM
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How very Christian of you to judge and generalize people who have dogs.

You are entitled to your opinion on Vick and what's appropriate. So are the rest of us - Christian or not. I don't think he deserves any consideration on anything. And I don't think his sentences was sufficient. Incredibly, I own not just one Bible, but three.

The nastiness in some of these posts -- on all sides of the discussion -- is disturbing. Unfortunately, that's endemic to unmoderated anonymous forums. Most people here are probably nicer in person.

Except maybe the all-caps noodle guy.

Why do Vick fans keep mentioning Martha Stewart? I don't have a single Martha Stewart cookbook, decorating book nor do I know if she even has a TV show anymore. Could not care less if she spent the rest of her life in San Quentin, or wherever it is they'll send Bernie Madoff.

I will say this for Martha Stewart: she loves dogs and would never drown them, beat them or kill them.

On the other hand, she's a Chow Chow person....

Once the season starts people grow tired of the same old news we stay mad as long as its front page. Once its no longer front page we move on to the next person to villianize. The media will use Vick's situation to keep you interrested. Then as soon as something more sensational comes up the media will drop Vick and so will most of you. Remember before Vick was arrested for dogfighting we were doing the same thing to Paris Hilton Linsay Lohan and Britney Spears. They were the pampered spoiled entitled brats that we love to hate. Now for the moment Vick will be in that spotlight, until the media finds a bigger draw. I just trying to see how long the media can drag out Obama's comments about the cop. Remember how we were ready to crucify the governor who went on the trip to S.America to see his mistress? Then Michael Jackson died and we forgot all about him. Remember how angry we were about A-rod and Manny just a couple of months ago? Now who give a crap? We got Vick!! We can now take out all of our frustrations on him and President Obama for making comments about the cop. Thats the thing with todays media, you are top story antil and on everyones tongue until the next story. Vick will stay in the limelight until the first game he is on the sidelines, two weeks after that or as soon as something bigger comes he will be forgotten. You see folks, it takes too much energy to hate. Do you think people are going to waste their good money on a football ticket to heckle Vick on the sidelines. He wont be playing so you cant even boo him. And even if you do you will get tired of making yourselves miserable trying to make him miserable. But the difference is he will be happy because he is a free man doing what he loves. You will be wasting all of you energy wishing for his misery.

I am highly disappointed in Goodell and the NFL. In so many ways, this the wrong decision. Shame on you Goodell, shame on you. The team that picks Vick up will get all the publicity they want and I hope that brings total misery to that team. The NFL needs a reality check.

moose1063 asked the person who typed, "I have petifiles in my neighborhood", "does that mean you have small file folders lurking in your neighborhood?"

Either that or petite pet lovers - in which case the person couldn't possibly be from Baltimore, where all pet lovers are obese.

."I have petifiles in my neighborhood"

does that mean you have small file folders lurking in your neighborhood?
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Wrong. Petitfiles are small cakes generally eaten at the end of a meal or served as part of dessert.

All you did today, Mr. Goodell, was show Americans that the reward for brutalizing dogs (and who knows what else) is a contract (with meaningless conditions) and millions of dollars. Way to go, loser! All you are is a piece of crap with a nice watch. Nothing more, nothing less. Sure felt GREAT when I cancelled my extended NFL cable package today!

Posted by: schandronnet | July 27, 2009 6:11 PM

and all the justice system has shown us is that you can take someone's life away and receive a lesser sentence.

so what's the moral of the story? if you're gonna kill something, kill a person. you won't spend as much time in jail if you're caught!

Are there any Christians out there?
Dog lovers are a strange breed; they seemingly love animals but show no love and/or forgiveness for a fellow human. The hatred shown in some posted comments is sickening. Martha Stewart served time and went back to her career without missing a beat. Why should things be different for Vick?
He was wrong and society punished him for his wrongdoings. He deserves another chance to do what he wants to do - be an NFL player.

The NFL owes Vick nothing. He does not appear to show any remorse for what he did - only sorry about getting caught and doing time. Has he actually said brutally torturing and killing dogs was a terrible thing - no he just regrets it because of the impact on his life. What has he done to further the protection of animals? I wouldn't be surprised if he still thinks what he did was ok in and of itself. Scary. Beyond breaking a law, Vick demonstrated mentally ill behavior and should not be allowed back into professional sports - some role model for today's youth.

Bitter_Bill wrote, "Where's his birth certificate?"

ROFL!!

I will boycott any team that is desperate enough to take him.
Posted by: amr2 | July 27, 2009 3:43 PM

How do you boycott a team? Really? What by not watching the team that has him on it? Really? What if he is just a bench warmer on a team that does not get televised? Are you just going to miss all the games? Do you even watch football now? Now Vick is going to dictate what you watch on TV? Really? So you are going to spend the rest of your life boycotting every thing that has a degree of separation with vick? I am really trying to see how you people who plan to hurt the NFL if they allow him to play actually do it? Are you going to organize a rally? If he still plays on a team then what? Do you form an anti Vick organization? Do you join PETA? Lets say he falls and hurts himself and cant play anymore, will you boycott the next professional organization he is a part of? Right now he is working with children, why arent you out there boycotting the organization he is working with now? Why? Because most of you peoples passion is misguided. You are not mad because Vick mistreated dogs, you are mad because he can go back to making the living most of you cant make based on his athletic ability. He went to jail for the dogs. You all just want to see him have less than you. The NFL is a job and a privelege. He has been given a second chance and you people hate it because he can make more money than you can. Thats what you are angry about. If he left prison and worked at 7-11 that would make most of you happy. Because then he would be considered beneath you. Where you think he should have been all along.

No ... rape and murder are not ok. Don't believe that anyone ever suggested that they were. Have you ever seen a dog fight? Do you have any idea what the dogs go through in preparation for their fights? The torture that they're put through? Due to the severity of Vick's actions, he shouldn't be let back in. Let him play in Mexico where his "sport" of choice is allowed. I'm not trying to save the world here ... just trying to voice my concerns about an organization who is, more and more, accepting of criminal behavior for the sake of the almighty dollar. I have no intention of supporting an organization as sick as this.

Come on people give the man a second chance. What he did was F***ing stupid and horrible but plenty of people repent in prison. If does do anything I fully support throwing him out.
oh and SeedofChange I'm pretty sure that Dick Cheney isn't 56. He's got to be at least 70. I mean seriously seen a picture recently?

@Sideswiped...During preparation drills in mini camp the coaches should do well to say to Michael Vick, Stay Michael Stay, Sit Michael Sit, Now Roll Over, Now Fetch.

And the FACTS will STILL be saying ...RUNS, SCORES, TOUCHDOWN, CHINg...pAID!

Bwahahahaha! *DEAD* OFFICIALLY.

Let it go...

let's add some perspective:

-donte stallworth killed someone and got sentenced to 30 days in jail.
-leonard little killed someone and only received 90 days in jail.
-plaxico brought a gun into a club and consequently shot himself. he agreed to spend a year in jail.
-jamal lewis was slanging drugs and got 4 months in jail.

and now you have the ben rofflesburger fiasco, but that's been swept under the rug...

For those who will boycott the NFL or give up their season tickets, I have a question:

WTF????

Rape and Murder didn't do it, but dogfighting did?

Vick may not be the only person with confused values here.

Please know that prisons aren't in the business of rehabilitating the inmates. If anything, prison makes the convicted person even more hardened. Vick has learned nothing nor can he imagine the suffering he caused hundreds of defenseless animals (who never asked for a life of torture ... and ultimately very gruesome deaths). Someone like Vick cannot be rehabilitated. The NFL is one stupid organization .... and Goodell is leading the pack. Maybe Goodell and Dungee were the ones who set up the rape stands for the shows. Certainly would explain Goodell's decision to reinstate and Dungee's decision to "mentor".

Thank you NFL You just saved me over $4000 in club level seats alone!
I will never ever go to another game. I will never ever buy another season ticket for myself or my company. I will never ever watch another game on TV.

@kl305- YOU ARE A F'ING LIAR from sun up to sun down! FIRST OF ALL any FOOL who would pay $4000.00 for seats anywhere needs to be AUDITED. You're ass is one of the reasons the NFL pays the ridiculous salaries they do...you think that sounds smart but you're "just dumb enough" to pay that ridiculous money to see them run a damn ball up and down a stripped field.

Hell- I'm a girl and I played tackle WITH BOYS for 8 years FOR fun. That why I watch...I love football and there isn't a player I know (personally or otherwise) who can do anything to garner that stupid statement you made. You ain't boycotting Sh!T but changing the baby during the game, shopping with the wife and Light beer. LOL
There are people with out jobs and your arrogant ass is whining about 1 player who did something illegal (like he's the ONLY person) and you actually saying would give up EVERY NFL GAME and club seats? You going straight to hell!

Did you know there's a serious recession and people can't eat and some are homeless?? Yeah!
Donate that CLUB LEVEL SEAT BOYCOTT money and get the tax write off THEN you'll be saying something that matters because right now you sound like the boy who nobody picked to play on the team...LOL

Many of the Vick fans here are equating meat eating and Vick's actions. Really? Did you torture your cow to death tonight before eating, did you slowly tear apart your pig before having pork chops? This man is a psycho sadist and the people supporting him are saying far more about themselves than they are about this scum.

Where's his birth certificate?

All you did today, Mr. Goodell, was show Americans that the reward for brutalizing dogs (and who knows what else) is a contract (with meaningless conditions) and millions of dollars. Way to go, loser! All you are is a piece of crap with a nice watch. Nothing more, nothing less. Sure felt GREAT when I cancelled my extended NFL cable package today!

If Kobe can play basketball and Ray Lewis can play in the NFL, Vick should be allowed to play football as well.

What - rape and murder is OK, but we have to draw the line at dogfighting?

Clearly, he made a huge mistake. He broke the law and did some time. Hopefully, he learned his lesson.

If he's still capable of playing, let him play. I hope it works out for him.

During preparation drills in mini camp the coaches should do well to say to Michael Vick, Stay Michael Stay, Sit Michael Sit, Now Roll Over, Now Fetch.

National Felons League indeed. Just disgusting, could the NFL standards be any lower ?

Vick paid a minimal price for his perverted blood sport. I love dogs. I don't love people who abuse and kill them.

Football is a dangerous sport and there is always the chance of a painful injury. Mortal pain, as Vick's dogs suffered would be hard to imagine, but let's hope for a little Karmic goes around, comes around.

Posted by: hill_marty | July 27, 2009 4:52 PM

i'm a dog lover myself but i can at least forgive people for their transgressions. some people, like above, have their priorities all out of wack.

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He is a low life, a scumbag, a base character. What happened to sportsmanship and giving kids heroes to look up to, people with good character and common decency. This guy is vile and will never change. There are plenty of hardworking, decent players out there that never get to play because BIG money will serve up this crap rather than someone who has qualities that kids can look up to. He is sorry that he got caught, that is all. He learned nothing, except that he got away with barbaric acts taht are not accepted in this country. He is the same creep now as he was before.

Posted by: joanharlin | July 27, 2009 4:59 PM

yo you know him on a personal level like that? or are you just being a hateful/unforgiving human being?

if kids are looking to athletes to differentiate between what is right and wrong, shouldn't you be criticizing their parents for not performing their duties as a parent?

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Of course he was reinstated. The NFL, just like the NBA, is full of scum bags who have no sense of duty to the young people who look up to athletes.

Michael Vicks has done his time for the crime. That does not, in any way, make it OK for him to return to his millions of dollars the NFL foolishly will let him have. Vicks should spend the rest of his life picking up dog crap. His money should be given to rescue organizations who take care of the dogs he and the other thugs torture, terrorize and kill.

The NFL and most other major league sports organizations have degenerated into the most disgusting display of immorality imaginable.

Where are the heroes of sports of my youth? You remember, the ones who did nice things for the culture who pays them, the ones who did not have to take steroids to set world records, the ones who were humble and kind people who were grateful for the opportunities given to them? Where are they? They're not around anymore. What do we have left? Rapists, drug addicts, dog killers, child abusers -- that's who.

Posted by: Karmicquickdraw | July 27, 2009 3:57 PM

and EVERY athlete in your day and age was an upstanding citizen and never had transgressions? it's saddening that you characterize all athletes as criminals.

and just fyi, he's not a cough drop or medicine. there is no s at the end of his last name.

I have a prediction: Vick won't get a job. I know everyone figures Al Davis will sign him, or Jerry Jones, but this is all about money, just like everything in this world. I don't happen to like dogs all that much, but his crime was so heinous and so psychopathic, his signing would alienate his new team from 99% of the paying public. Every wife of every fan would forbid her husband from watching, let alone supporting his team. Every PR person in the NFL is begging their owners not to sign him. It would be a PR nightmare. I don't think he'll get a job.

Just as the NFL said, just because you're good, doesn't mean you deserve to play. Look at Lawrence Phillips. His problems were never on the field. His problems were off the field. I own a business. I employ 9 people, full-time. Do you think I would hire an ex-con who had committed Vick's crime? Absolutely not. I would consider any ex-con on a case-by-case basis. I've hired people from all walks of life, from all backgrounds. I have in fact hired one person who had a very sordid past. There's a difference between a former addict who is cleaned up and someone who systematically beat and tortured animals.

THEALASKAN......twisted logic by which to condone animal cruelty.

Are there any Vegans in the NFL?
Any Vegan season ticket holders?
Would it be less ethical for a Vegan to enjoy pro ball then Vick and a good portion of Southeast Asia to enjoy blood sports?

Unless you're a Vegan you're a hypocrite to call out Vick. If you're a Vegan, go get something in your belly. Your skiny gives me the shivers.

Go Vickan.

If only he had played in the Phillipines.

I will boycott ANY game in which he plays including the Superbowl.

I will NEVER, EVER allow an advertiser to make a single dollar off of me when they hitch their star to Vick's violent, criminal, sociopath, ex-convict wagon.

THE GHETTO IS NOT COOL.

VIOLENCE IS NOT COOL.

SPORTS STARS WHO HANG OUT WITH CRIMINAL FRRIENDS IN THE GHETTO INSTEAD OF BRINGING THEIR FRIENDS OUT OF GHETTO-MINDED GANG BEHAVIOR AND INTO CIVILIZED SOCIETY DO NOT BELONG IN CIVILIZED SOCIETY THEMSELVES.

BOYCOTT VICK AND ANY NFL FRANCHISE THAT IGNORES HIS VIOLENT GHETTO-MINDED CRIMES

Thank you NFL You just saved me over $4000 in club level seats alone!

I will never ever go to another game. I will never ever buy another season ticket for myself or my company. I will never ever watch another game on TV.

Maybe you will introduce dog torture for the crowds entertainment at halftime, Hm, nice and bloody.

@TRADECZAR! It is really refreshing to encounter so many bloggers who have Never smoked weed, never driven drunk and never cheated on their taxes -- any of which, under the right (wrong) circumstances could have sent you to jail and then become an EX-CON

LOL- this is NOT refreshing!
I must have left DC...hell, I must not be on EARTH because I know I'm not the only person on the planet.
Yeah, I actually my sentence stopped right there. Maybe it's just me...but then who are all these other people who are posting? LOL
Bwahahahah...if there's a hell below we're ALL gonna go!

@MOOSE 1063...A few months ago there was a NATGEO or Discovery channel program about the Michael Vick dog fighting operation.

DID YOU SEE MICHAEL VICK DOING ANY OF THOSE THINGS IN THAT DOCUMENTARY?

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That's intelligent. Do we always see the murderer commit the crime?

No, Micheal Vick was not there. All that was left were dead dogs on Michael Vicks property.

The bigger list would be KNOWN offenders who's offenses WERE COVERED UP BY INSTITUTIONS, COACHES, LAWYERS and MONEY.
I PERSONALLY know NFL 4 players who have committed SEVERAL "offenses" and not a charge was filed.

Get that list and they might give ME a lifetime pass to every NFL ever game to be played and a complementary Learjet to get me there.
People REALLY don't know what they're talking about.

Posted by: lioness_ohyes | July 27, 2009 5:34 PM
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It's outrageous when the guilty get away with crimes.

Certainly doesn't excuse those who are caught, convicted and sentenced.

Comm. Goddell writes: ""In deciding whether to reinstate a player, I have stressed my belief that playing in the NFL is a privilege," Goodell wrote to Vick, according to the league. "It is not an entitlement. Everyone fortunate enough to be part of the league is held to a standard of conduct higher than that generally expected in society and is correspondingly accountable when that standard of conduct is not met. I have also endorsed an approach under which players who have been suspended for a significant amount of time, as you have been, may through a series of steps demonstrate that they have addressed their prior problems, that they can make good decisions, and that they conduct themselves in a way that is lawful, responsible, and consistent with NFL values."

What a joke!!

I say: Of all the people I know in my life, I do not know anyone who has been convicted of any crime. Yet, the NFL is full of boys who have been convicted or charged with numerous crimes. I will not support the NFL and will not waste my money to pay them big buck salaries. They should all be ashamed of themselves.

@MOOSE 1063...A few months ago there was a NATGEO or Discovery channel program about the Michael Vick dog fighting operation.

DID YOU SEE MICHAEL VICK DOING ANY OF THOSE THINGS IN THAT DOCUMENTARY?

A few months ago there was a NATGEO or Discovery channel program about the Michael Vick dog fighting operation. The footage literally made me sick to my stomach. I just kept thinking, what kind of monster would actually drown, kick, punch, strangle, hang and shoot dogs, just on a whim? It was the most disgusting and disturbing thing I've ever seen.

Posted by: moose1063 | July 27, 2009 5:31 PM
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Serial killers.

A common behavior among serial killers is animal abuse and animal killing. They usually begin this behavior when they are children.

They enjoy killing innocent animals and then graduate to killing people.

What Vick did is aberrant and evil.

Probably no one here would want someone like that living next door, unless he was a wealthy, professional athlete or other celebrity.

@DagnyT "I would like to know which teams have convicted violent criminals on the roster. No doubt Vick would not be the first and probably not the worst. But that would stop me from speaking out against him, the NFL and any team who hires him."

The bigger list would be KNOWN offenders who's offenses WERE COVERED UP BY INSTITUTIONS, COACHES, LAWYERS and MONEY.
I PERSONALLY know NFL 4 players who have committed SEVERAL "offenses" and not a charge was filed.

Get that list and they might give ME a lifetime pass to every NFL ever game to be played and a complementary Learjet to get me there.
People REALLY don't know what they're talking about.

I suspect those of us who are disgusted by Michael Vick are people who have animals and can discern between between going over the top, as ALF and PETA do, and caring for the welfare of animals such as dogs and cats.

A few months ago there was a NATGEO or Discovery channel program about the Michael Vick dog fighting operation. The footage literally made me sick to my stomach. I just kept thinking, what kind of monster would actually drown, kick, punch, strangle, hang and shoot dogs, just on a whim? It was the most disgusting and disturbing thing I've ever seen.

It's truly unbelievable to me that there will be an owner of an NFL team stupid enough to sign this monster for his team.

It is really refreshing to encounter so many bloggers who have Never smoked weed, never driven drunk and never cheated on their taxes -- any of which, under the right (wrong) circumstances could have sent you to jail and then become an EX-CON. Try putting that on your resume and see how easy it is to get a decent job. How tolerant of you!

Posted by: tradeczar | July 27, 2009 5:26 PM
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You are equating Vick's violent crimes with pot, DUI and tax evasion?

How irrelevant of you.

"Who wants to bet Snyder has his cellphone in his sweaty little child-like hands dialing Vick's number right now!"
Posted by: dre7861 | July 27, 2009 3:45 PM
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WE CAN ONLY HOPE SO!! GO GET 'EM DANNY
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INDEED! RING RING RING! MICHAEL VICKS PLEASE! THIS IS DAN SNYDER OF THE REDSKINS CALLING-PLEASE HELP US-WE NEED YOU DESPERATELY!

Just remember that Jesus, Gandhi, Mandela and King all went to jail too. I hope no one ever gave those criminals a second chance.

Posted by: rcvinson64 | July 27, 2009 5:24 PM
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Uh-huh. Your average prisoners.

Only one of them imprisoned in America.

OMG! Phelps still gets to swim but he was hitting the bong ON CAMERA! No BOYCOTT of swim meets this weekend I noticed. Hmmm...
I guess if the posters here read about OPRAH admitting to smoking crack they would FOREVER BOYCOTT HER SHOW and ANY NETWORK THAT CARRIED IT? I really don't like Oprah or watch, but it has nothing to do with her using drugs.

Now notice that same woman, Oprah, ridiculed a man publicity and even called for a NATIONAL BOYCOTT of his book because he "fabricated some/told someone else's story" of drug addiction. How's that right that she SMOKED CRACK and she's forgiven - he EMBELLISHED about being addicted and he's not? Why is it no one called for a BOYCOTT ON HER??
So ZEALOTS FOR MORALITY go look up the story then change the channel and write your congressman and the FCC have her REMOVED FROM TELEVISION! This is the man she admitted to smoking with. http://www.hollyscoop.com/oprah/oprah-smoked-crack-ex-boyfriend-tells-all_19007.aspx

Y'all even betrayed Martha Stewart so I know it's not a race thing. She got the jump on the money dump- y'all didn't' like that huh?
In the words of my FAVORITE August 9th born, CRACK-HEAD DIVA Whitney Houston...YEAH-I DID IT...NOW WHAT?
You people really need to get your heads right and choose a worthy cause to fight over. People don't have the basics and you're hollaring about a man who sat in PRISON for 18 months?
Pray you never get convicted for even the smallest thing because you'll NEVER be welcome in society again...unless you're wealthy, white (but not Martha Stewart) or Oprah.

It is really refreshing to encounter so many bloggers who have Never smoked weed, never driven drunk and never cheated on their taxes -- any of which, under the right (wrong) circumstances could have sent you to jail and then become an EX-CON. Try putting that on your resume and see how easy it is to get a decent job. How tolerant of you!

My brother was at VT when he was playing there a punk then and a punk now. Lets not forget his brother stoping on the Texas Tech's players leg for no reason either. Bad genes run in the family. I hope the team takes him is boycotted to the full extent. With that I am personally hoping Dallas takes him.

Just remember that Jesus, Gandhi, Mandela and King all went to jail too. I hope no one ever gave those criminals a second chance.

I kind of hope he goes to the Patriots or Cowboys so that gives another reason to loathe those teams.

P.S. YOU DO KNOW, DON'T YOU, THAT ON THE FBI LIST OF MOST WANTED TERRORISTS, THERE ARE THOSE IN THE ANIMAL LIBERATION FRONT MOVEMENT, DON'T YOU? PERHAPS SOME OF YOU ALF PEOPLE ARE POSTING ON THIS BOARD-IF SO, I CERTAINLY WISH I COULD SIC A PIT BULL ON YOUR TOTALLY LUNATIC A$$S!

pls do. u have better things to do, like bomb for PETA

Posted by: mloaks | July 27, 2009 5:03 PM
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Vick fans keep bringing up PETA to dismiss those of us who disagree as extremists. Doubtful many, if any, of us here are PETA types. Heck, I'd have to give up leather shoes and meat, forget that.

Vick's problem is that his savagery outraged mainstream Americans.

The extremists are those who think what he did is no big deal. And that serving his sentence atones for his actions. I don't believe serving time excuses the crime -- especially violent crimes. The sentence just protects society from those offenders for awhile and perhaps deters some others from committing that crime.

I used to love professional sports and have enjoyed many Redskins games, but sportsmanship long ago became a quaint notion and too many thugs and primadonnas dimmed my enthusiasm.

I would like to know which teams have convicted violent criminals on the roster. No doubt Vick would not be the first and probably not the worst. But that would stop me from speaking out against him, the NFL and any team who hires him.

"Who wants to bet Snyder has his cellphone in his sweaty little child-like hands dialing Vick's number right now!"
Posted by: dre7861 | July 27, 2009 3:45 PM
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WE CAN ONLY HOPE SO!! GO GET 'EM DANNY

After reading so many ignorant comments here, I guess it really is true. Not all rabid sports fans are morons; but if someone is a moron, they must be a rabid sports fan.

This is sickening:

"Vick finally pleaded guilty after his three co-defendants had already done so. They told of how Vick participated in the killing of dogs that didn't perform well in test fights by shooting, hanging, drowning or slamming them to the ground."

Sounds like a real upstanding person, doesn't he? What a scumbag.

I have never been a football fan. My husband loves the game and I am glad. Lee enjoys most all sports and this is fun for him. I wish to say. I support This young man Michael Vick In getting back to his job,his career,his life.first and foremost he has paid for his mistake and it was a bad mistake. I love animals every breed and type of dog was created by God for a purpose and deserve our kindness and humane care. I believe and will pray and wish Michael the best.In fact if I know he is playing I will watch his game and cheer for him. How about giving him a chance and pray that he will succeed and help this world become a better place for homeless children as well as animals?

mloaks wrote:

I will boycott any team that is desperate enough to take him.
Posted by: amr2 | July 27, 2009 3:43 PM
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pls do. u have better things to do, like bomb for PETA

HA HA HA! THAT WAS A GOOD ONE, ML-MADE ME LAUGH! AND SO TRUE!

What ever happened to giving people who faced justice and served their time a chance to return to their profession? It's football, not brain surgery. We send them to jail and then deprive them of the opportunity to return productively to society upon release, and then say "I told you so" when many of them break another law and return to prison. What a bunch of hypocrites. From reading many of these posts, I really begin to wonder about the IQ of those who still rant on about Vick. Seems like Neanderthals have taken over the blog.

I bet the Cowboys will sign him - we take all the "troubled" players. And I'm not sure it wouldn't be better for him to have a dog - maybe a Chinese Crested or a Papillon or a toy Poodle. Something little that he could dress up in cute pink frilly clothes. He would have to take it everywhere with him.

What's with the screaming pasta guy?

We Train Humans to kill Humans
(in war) no one goes to jail
Pittbulls ? Give the guy a break.

There are so many talented people in this world, it's a shame the NFL keeps giving chances to those who break the law. There should be social consequences to breaking the law. You can pay your time, but your still a criminal. I don't believe that just because you went to jail, all should be forgiven. I don't want to employ someone who is a known criminal. I don't want them on my team. If you rob a bank, I'm not going to trust you. So no, I don't think he should be reinstated. There are plenty of jobs in this world besides a multi-million dollar contract to play a football game. I don't think he deserves a glamorous career. Sorry, but I don't. He may be a great player but there are a lot of great players. Why not give that chance to someone who can be a standup citizen? However, I can accept that is not my decision. The NFL has ever right to have him.

Now at the same time, I would also say that there are A LOT of other players that shouldn't be on an NFL team either. I find it worse that we accept players who have engaged in violence, rape, drugs and drunk driving. Why do we bend the rules for someone because they play a good game? Crimes against humans should have people as up in arms as crimes against animals. If you can cheer for a rapist on a football field but want to boycott the league just because of Vicks, I think you are missing part of your humanity.

lmao! What does Phelps smoking dope have any correlation to Vick abusing animals for years on end?

folks think blacks get tougher sentences, i reckon. imagine that....
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I will boycott any team that is desperate enough to take him.
Posted by: amr2 | July 27, 2009 3:43 PM
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pls do. u have better things to do, like bomb for PETA

...."I have petifiles in my neighborhood"

does that mean you have small file folders lurking in your neighborhood?

He is a low life, a scumbag, a base character. What happened to sportsmanship and giving kids heroes to look up to, people with good character and common decency. This guy is vile and will never change. There are plenty of hardworking, decent players out there that never get to play because BIG money will serve up this crap rather than someone who has qualities that kids can look up to. He is sorry that he got caught, that is all. He learned nothing, except that he got away with barbaric acts taht are not accepted in this country. He is the same creep now as he was before.

haha, you people are ridiculous! Vick is still one of the most phenomenal atheletes on the planet. You can't argue that. I have petifiles in my neighborhood that have served less time in jail. I think most of you are racists like that cop in cambridge. I'm just glad the nfl is a better servant of justice than our government.

Posted by: willfacc10 | July 27, 2009 4:55 PM
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Funny that our posts should go up at the same time.

No doubt several commenting here are thinking that others are racists like Professor Gates.

The NFL is a business. One way or another, there will be a verdict on whether Vick is commercially salvageable.

HA HA HA! GOOD ONE, LIONESS! 'COURSE, LIKE I SAY, ONCE VICKS THROWS THE HALLOWED TD, ALL WILL BE FORGOTTEN, SO GO ON WITH YOUR PRISSY LITTLE SWISHY BOYCOTTS-KNOCK YOURSELVES OUT, NUTTERS! WE'LL BE LAUGHING AND ENJOYING OUR NFL LIKE NO TIME BEFORE IF VICKS COMES OUT AND PROVES HE'S THE WINNER WE KNOW HE CAN BE!

We are adults here, why are some of you going off like this. we all understand what happen was wrong. But the question again does anyone knows this man on a personal note? and has anyone asked (HIM)on how he feels about what happen?

NFL = National Felons League

It's gonna be real funny when Vick f**ks up within a month or two and some story breaks about how he's back doing his old stuff. I can't wait to see that piece of human garbage shoved back down the rabbit hole. He's a stupid wannabe street thug with little to no remorse.

This thread has the makings of a teachable moment.

haha, you people are ridiculous! Vick is still one of the most phenomenal atheletes on the planet. You can't argue that. I have petifiles in my neighborhood that have served less time in jail. I think most of you are racists like that cop in cambridge. I'm just glad the nfl is a better servant of justice than our government.

FARFALLE must be off his meds again.

"If Michael Phelps was allowed to maintain his career status after smoking crack then Vick should have been given the same treatment."

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Last I checked, Phelps was photographed with a bong, not a crack pipe. Weed and crack aren't the same drug.

lmao! What does Phelps smoking dope have any correlation to Vick abusing animals for years on end?

Now go find me an example of a human who beat, tortured and killed a slew of other humans and you'll be on the right track. Unless you think that a person who indulges himself in drugs is equivalent to the horrors that Vick committed.

@HillRat and all others talking about boycotting. You won't boycott gas for 1 day to save the planet but you'll boycott a whole sport for Michael Vick? Take your ill a$$es back to the playground with that pity-pat childish BS!

- GOOD We're elated you're going to KEEP YOUR CHEAP, GAY, WHINING A$$ AT HOME! People like you who sit around and judge on things that you don't even care about get on my last nerve.
Yapping about the past transgressions of Vick while fully aware that at least 4 of 5 NFLers have been guilty of "sexual assault" that was covered up. He OWNED KENNELS and BRED DOGS was convicted of financing dog fighting- OF HIS PERSONAL 8 of 9 WERE ADOPTED TO FAMILIES.
Vick served his time- last I checked once you serve the time that's it. I see why so many "technical" criminals go back to jail and why so many REAL criminals don't stop committing crimes; society is going to ridicule you and like back taxes owed to the IRS- you'll NEVER pay off the debt. The best thing for ALL of you to do is STFU and let US enjoy the games. You aren't who we want to spend time with when we're having fun...I doubt if you know what fun is.

Vick paid a minimal price for his perverted blood sport. I love dogs. I don't love people who abuse and kill them.

Football is a dangerous sport and there is always the chance of a painful injury. Mortal pain, as Vick's dogs suffered would be hard to imagine, but let's hope for a little Karmic goes around, comes around.

LET ME REEMPHASIZE MY PREVIOUS POINT TO ALL THE RABID NUTTERS OUT THERE WHO WANT TO DO THEIR PRISSY LITTLE LAUGHABLE BOYCOTTS ABOUT VICK:

AND REMEMBER, ALL YOU RABID LUNATICS POSTING HERE WHO WANT VICKS TO BE SENTENCED TO A LIFE OF HARD LABOR AND DIE-PIT BULLS I DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT-THEY ARE KILLING MACHINES QUITE ON THEIR OWN, THANK YOU, THEY KILL INNOCENT BABIES AND CHILDREN AND PEOPLE AND OTHER DOGS AND I DON'T HEAR YOU RABID IDIOTS SAYING ONE DAMN THING IN THE LOSS OF HUMAN LIFE THERE, DO YOU, YOU EFFING NUT CASES! WHY THE HELL DO YOU THINK THERE ARE ZONING REGULATIONS ABOUT PIT BULLS HUH? THEY ARE NOT LIKE YOUR FRIENDLY LITTLE COCKER SPANIELS, NOT BY FAR-BUT YOU RABID NUT CASES ARE TOO FAR GONE TO REALIZE THAT-THANK GOD YOU'RE NOT DECISION MAKERS-YOU HAVE COMPLETELY LOST ANY VESTIGE OF PERSPECTIVE ON THIS MATTER-GO TO HELL!

Many abused dogs have been remarkably forgiving of the human race. More forgiving than anyone commenting here, in any regard, appears to be.
Posted by: DagnyT | July 27, 2009 4:48 PM

amen Dagny. Posters like FARFALL represent some of the uglier forms of human nature. As a self-professed animal lover, I probably wouldn't put much value on Farfall's life. Some humans simply don't deserve that consideration, sorry. He completely ignores the effects of what being starved and tortured will do to an animal. You do that to enough "cuddly" cocker spaniels and you'll get bitten too. The only difference is their physical genetic makeup won't allow for the same kind of injuries that a pit or rottie or german shepherd can inflict.

Goodell has named Tony Dungy as his mentor?!?!?!? What a farce. The NFL will not police itself of mental midgets such as Vick.

I would like to suggest that fans at every venue in the NFL should greet Vick with a barrage of dog biscuits as he enters, exits, and stands on the field.

If Michael Phelps was allowed to maintain his career status after smoking crack then Vick should have been given the same treatment. More children indulge in drugs than participate in dogs fights. But that's one of the dark side double standards we have in America. I am glad the league somewhat redeemed itself.

I find this Vick situation to be a bit puzzling.

What Vick did was reprehensible and disgusting but to those who are screaming for a pound of flesh, please let us know which NFL team you root for and I can point out several players on it that have done or have dealt drugs, beaten their girlfriends or wives, have engaged in non-consensual sex, the list goes on and on.

So please save the self-righteousness when you all are living the glass house of cheering for teams that have done just as worse if not more so than Vick.

FARFALLE44--"AND REMEMBER, ALL YOU RABID LUNATICS POSTING HERE WHO WANT VICKS TO BE SENTENCED TO A LIFE OF HARD LABOR AND DIE-PIT BULLS I DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT-THEY ARE KILLING MACHINES QUITE ON THEIR OWN, THANK YOU, THEY KILL INNOCENT BABIES AND CHILDREN AND PEOPLE AND OTHER DOGS AND I DON'T HEAR YOU RABID IDIOTS SAYING ONE DAMN THING IN THE LOSS OF HUMAN LIFE THERE, DO YOU, YOU EFFING NUT CASES! "

You gotta be the dumbest sack of crap I've had the misfortune of reading. Thanks for posting all your idiocy in CAPS. Makes it easier to decipher.

The reason pit bulls even get their menacing reputation is jackholes like Mike Vick who raise them to be that way. The reason they're killing machines is twofold -- they're raised a certain way (including tortured and starved), and their genetic physical makeup allows them to cause substantial destruction. But if you eliminate the human influence that turns them hyper aggressive, they're wonderful dogs. I've been around a ton of pitbulls (and rotties and other big dogs). The only times they are ever dangerous is when they've been abused and raised in a certain manner. Take the Mike Vicks out of this world and dogs like pit bulls won't be a problem anymore.

THEY ARE NOT LIKE YOUR FRIENDLY LITTLE COCKER SPANIELS, NOT BY FAR-BUT YOU RABID NUT CASES ARE TOO FAR GONE TO REALIZE THAT-THANK GOD YOU'RE NOT DECISION MAKERS-YOU HAVE COMPLETELY LOST ANY VESTIGE OF PERSPECTIVE ON THIS MATTER-GO TO HELL!

Posted by: farfalle44 | July 27, 2009 4:40 PM
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If you would turn off the all-caps and take some deep breaths, perhaps you would not come off as a violent nut case.

One of the remarkable outcomes of the Vick case is that most of the dogs were deemed salvageable. As I recall, at least one of them became a certified therapy dog.

My next door neighbor adopted a pit bull last winter from the Washington Animal Rescue League. WARL picked up the dog after she was seen being thrown from a car. She was emaciated and still bears an nasty scar atop her head.

She, too, is now a certified therapy dog and visits nursing homes around the DC area. The most consistently aggressive dogs on Capitol Hill seem to be the tiny ones. Best defense being a good offense, perhaps.

Many abused dogs have been remarkably forgiving of the human race. More forgiving than anyone commenting here, in any regard, appears to be.

Vick is a disgusting/sick individual. Even more disgusting is the NFL which is just an enabler for murderers, rapists, crack-heads, etc.

P.S. HA HA HA! THE MINUTE VICKS GETS SIGNED, AND THROWS A BIG TD-WELL, YOU KNOW! AND HE CAN AND WILL GET THAT CHANCE-GO MICHAEL VICKS! LET'S SEE WHAT YOU GOT!

but other ex-cons cannot get jobs. everyone is afraid to hire an ex-con.
so then what can a man do?
do we set the ex-con's to fail after serving the punishment or give them a genuine chance to succeed?

It's hilarious to see all these people who are so up in arms about Vick and threatening boycotts and what not. Leonard Little killed a woman while drinking and driving AND then got another DUI and no one is/was boycotting the Rams. He killed and actual person and got less of a suspension or jail sentence. Vick did more than enough time and shouldn't even be suspended at this point. Lighten up. Also, Dante Stallworth just killed a guy while drunk - where's the outrage? Plus, does anyone honestly think there are 30 better QBs in the league than Michael Vick??

You know, I hadn't really thought about Vick playing for the SKINS until now, reading the commentors very good suggestions in that regard! Now that I think about it, that's A VERY GOOD IDEA, I HAVE A FEELING THAT VICKS AND THE SKINS COULD BE A VERY GOOD MATCH! HE COULD COME ON AS BACK-UP, SHOW HIS STUFF, AND WE WASHINGTONIANS WILL SUPPORT A WINNER-HOW ABOUT IT SNYDER? GO GIVE HIS AGENT A CALL- I LIKE THIS IDEA VERY MUCH-GO MICHAEL VICK-SHOW US WHAT YOU GOT!

Yes, it was wrong about what happen to the dogs that got hurt or died. But he has done has time, has anyone of you talk to this man on a personal note to see how he feels? No so how can any of us past judgement on him, there is only 1 person in this world who can do that. some of these comments are shocking. as-if some of us haven't done wrong in our life time.

very good wec3, I agree people have to work. ex-cons have to feed their kids too. He served the time and society has to welcome them back. Vic is back. I look forward to the highlight film! (go phins!)
Thank you Mr. Goodell
Posted by: tenthduf | July 27, 2009 4:42 PM

Excons have to feed their kids? Great! Let him go work a regular job. Why does he get the privelege of being reinstated into the NFL so he can make millions? Let him go find another career. Like any other ex-con.

It's ironic, but Vick has done more to help the positive image of the American Pit Bull Terrier than anyone else I can think of. Because of Vick's fame cameras showed the world that even after a life of inhumane treatment, fights, beatings and starvation, they will still literally lick the hand of the next human that comes along, hoping to be accepted and loved and as eager as always to please. The world had a chance to see what a truly heroic, noble breed the APBT really is. I was introduced to the breed in the military and have been a faithful fan ever since. So much so that I now breed them. (old school correct, no urban "bully dog" trash). As for Vick personally? Maybe he is reformed and regretful, maybe he's not. Only he and his god know that for sure. I won't join everyone else in judging him...I'm not fit...I'm just human.

He paid his debt to society. Give him another chance, but watch him closely if he gets out of line.
I have a problem with people that get all bent out of shape over mistreatment of dogs, but place little value on human redemption.
Posted by: jjj33 | July 27, 2009 4:34 PM

Enuff with the boring generalizations already.

Who are these people who get bent out of shape over animals while apparently simultaneously dismissing human life?

I place little value on humans who are raging A-Holes. But I sure place a ton of value on quality human beings. And I'd venture a guess and say most animal lovers feel the same way. This nonsensical repetitive position that animal rights activists don't care about humans stems from one flawed perception - that instead of fighting for animal rights they should be fighting for human rights. People fight for different things -- you have lawyers fighting for tobacco companies, you have environmental activists etc etc. Just because some folks fight for animal rights does not make them callous to human rights violations.

very good wec3, I agree people have to work. ex-cons have to feed their kids too. He served the time and society has to welcome them back. Vic is back. I look forward to the highlight film! (go phins!)
Thank you Mr. Goodell

This is a disgrace! I used to be a Vick fan but after the dog fighting, he could pass away and no one would miss him!

Anyone that loves football, BOYCOTT the team that signs him!!

He is and always will be a CONVICTED FELON.......

The vote seems to be split, but this whole debate is academic. (Think the scene in Hunt for Red October) No decent team will sign him. As soon as they do they know the door for screaming criticism will be wide open, and Vick isn’t worth it. He’s a liability now.

For the record – Vick should not play – if he plays I’m done with the NFL and I spending power with me.

AND REMEMBER, ALL YOU RABID LUNATICS POSTING HERE WHO WANT VICKS TO BE SENTENCED TO A LIFE OF HARD LABOR AND DIE-PIT BULLS I DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT-THEY ARE KILLING MACHINES QUITE ON THEIR OWN, THANK YOU, THEY KILL INNOCENT BABIES AND CHILDREN AND PEOPLE AND OTHER DOGS AND I DON'T HEAR YOU RABID IDIOTS SAYING ONE DAMN THING IN THE LOSS OF HUMAN LIFE THERE, DO YOU, YOU EFFING NUT CASES! WHY THE HELL DO YOU THINK THERE ARE ZONING REGULATIONS ABOUT PIT BULLS HUH? THEY ARE NOT LIKE YOUR FRIENDLY LITTLE COCKER SPANIELS, NOT BY FAR-BUT YOU RABID NUT CASES ARE TOO FAR GONE TO REALIZE THAT-THANK GOD YOU'RE NOT DECISION MAKERS-YOU HAVE COMPLETELY LOST ANY VESTIGE OF PERSPECTIVE ON THIS MATTER-GO TO HELL!

Why is this story getting 9/11-type banner headlines on the home page of the Post?

Posted by: swmuva | July 27, 2009 4:36 PM
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Because this story is the next best thing to a dog fight.

If it bleeds, it leads.

Pardon the pun.

One again money and greed triumphs over decency!

My family will boycott any team that hires him and will boycott any company that advertises during any game in which his team is playing.

For shame!!!

I think it is great the NFL has reinstated him. He is talented and should have no problems resuming his career. Good luck to you.

Why is this story getting 9/11-type banner headlines on the home page of the Post?

You know, I hadn't really thought about Vick playing for the SKINS until now, reading the commentors very good suggestions in that regard! Now that I think about it, that's A VERY GOOD IDEA, I HAVE A FEELING THAT VICKS AND THE SKINS COULD BE A VERY GOOD MATCH! HE COULD COME ON AS BACK-UP, SHOW HIS STUFF, AND WE WASHINGTONIANS WILL SUPPORT A WINNER-HOW ABOUT IT SNYDER? GO GIVE HIS AGENT A CALL- I LIKE THIS IDEA VERY MUCH-GO MICHAEL VICK-SHOW US WHAT YOU GOT!

God help the team who signs this dirtbag. Why not dig up James Briley and give him another shot?

Vick should not be allowed any opportunity to resume his NFL career, until after he shows true remorse for the disgusting and vial things he did. To date, I have not heard nor read that he has done this. Does anyone out there have concrete evidence that this has occurred? If so, please provide a link.

I haven't heard "Yo Mama" in 10 years until now, don't tell me it's back.

EFF Vick. The best thing about this is that most NFL teams will take a pass on the guy. He was a mediocre QB before his criminal activities came to life and he's been out of things for 2 yrs now. A team would have to

A ) Be desperate and have a bunch of sh!tty QBs on their roster

AND

B ) have a fan demographic that largely doesn't care about animal cruelty.

I'm thinking the Detroit Lions with an outside shot at the Oakland Raiders if things don't go well with Jamarcus

Either way, Vick will get a very limited shot at the NFL or no shot at all. I can live with that (barely)

He paid his debt to society. Give him another chance, but watch him closely if he gets out of line.
I have a problem with people that get all bent out of shape over mistreatment of dogs, but place little value on human redemption.

Vick's life is not worth one dog's life, not even remotely.

Posted by: kenk3 | July 27, 2009 4:09 PM

You do realize that statements like these make it impossible for anyone to take you seriously on anything else you write on here, don't you? You've outed yourself as a lunatic.

Posted by: Barno1 | July 27, 2009 4:12 PM

Why is it being a lunatic to think that the life of human trash such as Vick is worth less than an innocent dog?

Yeah, we (humans) are so arrogant that we consider our species lives to be important than all others... what bible bs arrogance.

Work or attend school regularly is generally a condition of probation. He did his time. Now he has to work. People need to get over it. The point about being a convicted felon completely misses the mark. We need to stop putting up barriers to employment for people coming out of jail. Further, his crime had nothing to do with his job -- that is to say, unlike the example of a doctor convicted of something related to a patient.

Glad to see this decision.

These nimrods with the "What do I tell my kid..." questions just fries me! How 'bout you try raising your own damn kid and not leave it up to sports figures to do YOUR job for you?!? Ya bunch a' lazy mooks!

hillrat-GO RIGHT AHEAD AND "BOYCOTT" ALL YOU WANT-YOU, YOUR MAMA. AND YOUR FAMILY. I CAN ASSURE YOU, IN THE BIG PICTURE, IT WON'T MATTER A DAMN, NOT ONE DAMN-SO GO AND KNOCK YOURSELVES OUT ALL YOU WANT WITH YOUR LITTLE "BOYCOTT" HA HA HA!

Thundershock - tell your son it's ok to forgive. Tell him not to judge. Every one should get a second chance if they paid their debt and served the punishment. thanks.

Under no circumstances will I support, watch or have anything to do with this animal killing monster or any team that takes him. Shame on the NFL! Vick has no conscience and is a sociopath. I do not care what term he served in prison. He cannot ever make up for what he did and what he is.

Goodell wrote to Vick, according to the league. "Everyone fortunate enough to be part of the league is held to a standard of conduct higher than that generally expected in society...."
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What a crock. And what a creep.

Will be interesting to see if any team picks him up. And if any major corporation will ever again sponsor him.

Hail to the Redskins.... Sign Vick and dump Campbell... Third time is the charm...

I intend to boycott any and all commercial products associated with any team that might make him a member.

I intend to inform my rather large extended family and network of friends know which commercial products I would boycott, as well as encourage them to do the same.

If Football wants to make a decision like this, I intend to show my reaction via my considerable wallet.

Goodell made the right call. Two years in prison is more than the other thugs in the NFL ever served. America is about redemption. Sports at one level is about redemption every game and every week. Vick should have a chance to try to make a team. It's not guaranteed just because he sign's a contract. Considering the low quality of many NFL quarterbacks he might make it. To me the interesting story is whether he can play at NFL level after a two year absence. The legal and moral angles of the story are over.

what do I tell my son when he wants to know about this dog murderer? What do I tell the good upstanding neighbor who lost his job and can't get one when this twisted sick son of a ------ gets to play for millions after committing the atrocities he has against man's best friend. What do I tell Jackie Robinson who worked so hard to open up doors so this man could play a professional sport only to see how this man has demeaned the very nature of sports. What do I say to this moral scandal. I oppose it deeply and loath the owner who thinks his team needs this distraction for a few bucks.

some people eat dogs is that cruel maybe; some people eat chicken is that cruel maybe...do people go to jail for fighting dogs yes is that cruel maybe...do people go to jail for fighting chickens yes maybe is that cruel maybe...whats's my point..I like chicken and michael vick as a player...I dont know him personally...i

I realize I'm just one guy. I'm not an NFL season ticket holder, but I do watch as many games on TV as I can and have done so for many years. Occasionally, I buy tickets and attend a game. Not anymore. Yes, Michael Vick has served his sentence, but that doesn't mean he should automatically get his job back. It is telling that a chief advocate of Vick's reinstatement is none other than Terrell Owens, a man whose immense ego has overcome his talent at every stop of his career. I'll find something else to do on Sunday afternoon. Enjoy watching the washed-up dog killer if you want to.

Mr. Vick is a piece of refuse that so happens to be an athlete. The only way that this NFL wouldn’t let one of their golden boys play is if they killed another football player and even that is debatable. No wonder our young people are confused between what is right and wrong. This nasty human will now make millions of dollars in front of a cheering crowd. So it must be OK to participate in the cruel and appalling epidemic of dog fighting. Vick is a low life.

Who wants to bet Snyder has his cellphone in his sweaty little child-like hands dialing Vick's number right now!

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Come on Danny Boy. You don't even need to fly the jet very far. He's just down the road.

Go get him, let him sick under JC for the entire season, and then unleash him on the NFL next year.

I'm ready to buy my Redskins Vick Jersey. HAIL!

OJ will be the next one reinstated.

NFL: ANYTHING FOR A BUCK.

Vick's life is not worth one dog's life, not even remotely.

Posted by: kenk3 | July 27, 2009 4:09 PM

You do realize that statements like these make it impossible for anyone to take you seriously on anything else you write on here, don't you? You've outed yourself as a lunatic.

these comments are hilarious. there are so many self-righteous folk in the U.S. it is laughable. even over the actions of a young football player - who didn't get away with his crime but actually just finished his prison sentence.

WOW.

instead of young Vick - who ultimately got in trouble because he couldn't let go of his childhood 'friends', why don't you chastise the NFL for taking him back - as they will pimp good athletes as long as they are bankable?

It's all about the benjamins, baby. If you can bring us more $$, we'll give you your cut and keep the party going!

Vick served his time and gets to go back to work. Do your thing - whatever lowly income it brings - and let him do his. Don't hate.

Snap out of it, America. Get over yourselves and your holier-than-thou attitude. Vick paid his debt to society. He's a football player. Football is, basically, a TV show, or a day at the movies. Stop whinning, threatening boycotts and pretending your personal code of ethics matters. American justice has been served. Get a life, and let Mike Vick have his.

Let's see: Michael Vick has paid by far the greatest price of any dog fighter in the history of this great country. Roughly $100 million lost; had to declare bankruptcy; got booted off his team; lost his fans; lost his freedom; endured more humiliation than any criminal in the country; missed 2 1/2 of the prime years of his career; spent 2 years in a federal prison. And now he's been suspended for 6 more games which hurts the chances of finding a team for a guy who still doesn't have any suitors as of yet.

He paid the steepest of prices for his crime. Even the nutjob lunatics at PETA have forgiven the man. So if you can't, that says a lot more about you than it does about him.

I for one hope the Redskins sign him as a back up QB and wildcat specialist. I would love nothing more than for him to redeem himself as a member of our Redskins.

Vick's life is not worth one dog's life, not even remotely.

Please AMR2, tell us how you will "boycott". So you won't go to games you never went to before?? That'll teach'em!! LOL

The man served 2-years for killing dogs! More people in this country get less time than that for killing people (and I'm not just talking about Dante Stallworth).

lastly, a vet told me this. whatever Vick was doing, his dogs were not actually vicious. if they were they could not be adaptable to society. of all the dogs in his compound 100% returned/adapted to society. so that tells you something. the guy might have been more guilty of trying to be something more so than what he actually was.

All of you who want to BAN Vick from the NFL are plain out wrong. Why would you BAN the guy from doing the one thing he knows how to do? If you are put in jail for not paying your taxes does that mean you cant be a doctor again when you come out? No. Plain stupidity comes out of peoples mouths sometime. The guy did his time point blank PERIOD end of story. I for one do not think he deserves a 6 game suspension either but w/e. And for dog lovers, whose life do you weight more, a dog or a human being? Think about that.

To Sponsors of the NFL:

If Vick plays a single game I will never watch another NFL game again and I will steer my two sons away from the NFL. There are plenty of other things for me to do with my family on a Sunday afternoon, while I take my discretionary spending power with me. The league needs to draw a line with Vick and lowlifes like him on the other side. I know I am not alone in my position.

Good luck, Mike, and stay away from those dogfights.

Meanwhile, watch Vinnie and the Danny fall all over themselves to give Vick a Redskins jersey.

The man paid his debt to society. Is he an honorable, model citizen? Of course not. But I also believe punishment should fit the crime, and in this case it has. If he can play, let him.

Bitter_Bill posted: This is disgraceful. I shall have nothing to do with the NFL for the rest of my life."

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Another lunchbucket heard from. Hey Bitter, maybe you and AMR2 can go "antiquing" on Sunday afternoons during football season. Good riddance!

EXCELLENT DECISION, COMMISSIONER! I SALUTE YOUR WISDOM-MICHAEL VICKS DESERVEES TO BE BACK IN THE NFL, SADDER BUT WISER-HE DESERVES HIS SECOND CHANCE ABSOLUTELY! BRAVO TO THE NFL!

GO MICHAEL VICK-WE ALWAYS SUPPORTED YOU!

It's not about second chance to me, it's about allowing the man to make a living using his best and probably only skills and trade. If a plumber has finished his sentence for a DUI, should we also revoking his plumbing license forever because his job would require driving?

Pitiful. If I go, it will only be to picket.

He paid his debt what he did was a disgrace but EVERYONE does deserves a second chance especially after they paid their dues.

How sad that so many are so addicted to corporate sports that they find it important to defend this criminal thug. As to telling some of the rest of us to "get a life" I'd suggest that the corporate sports addicts and enablers are the ones who "need a life."

This is disgraceful. I shall have nothing to do with the NFL for the rest of my life.

Rules are rules. The commisioner let him back in. If a team wants him,I say go and get him. He's a good player. He did his time, by the rules, and now he should be able to return to his employment. It is up to each team to determine whether they want to deal with the fallout. The market will dictate whether anyone signs him.

His past will continue to dog him.

If he does manage to play there should be no penalty for roughing him...kind of like the justice that happened after his low-rent punk brother (hmm, I'm seeing a pattern here....) stomped on another player....

It's about time the NFL stop playing God with Vick's life.Even though I'm not a animal lover what he did was wrong.But how much punishment is enough?

Bottom line, it is time they reinstate Vick. He did a stupid thing, but he has served his time...Let's move on folks! To the person who said we don't re-insate doctors or lawyers, not true. There are cases where they have been re-instated and to compare playing football to either profession is ludicrous! If we treated HUMAN BEINGS with half the emotion we do for animals, the world would be a better place!

Go VICK!!!

I'm missing something; AMR2 wrote "I will boycott any team that is desparate enough to take him."

If they're desperate enough to take him (read that as his being a better quarterback than others available), why shouldn't they meet their needs. It might be different if AMR2 wrote he would boycott a team that took Mr. Vicks because it thought he would put people into seats. Two entirely differently things.

Give me a break to the previous person, just as other pro athletes, and other celebrities and your average joes, the man deserves a second chance. He is unlikely to be given many opportunities and he is only likely to be moderately successful at best, but he deserves that opportunity because in our country he has served the penalties that were enforced by our system.
Some people need to get a life and move on and find new witch hunts to focus on.

Of course he was reinstated. The NFL, just like the NBA, is full of scum bags who have no sense of duty to the young people who look up to athletes.

Michael Vicks has done his time for the crime. That does not, in any way, make it OK for him to return to his millions of dollars the NFL foolishly will let him have. Vicks should spend the rest of his life picking up dog crap. His money should be given to rescue organizations who take care of the dogs he and the other thugs torture, terrorize and kill.

The NFL and most other major league sports organizations have degenerated into the most disgusting display of immorality imaginable.

Where are the heroes of sports of my youth? You remember, the ones who did nice things for the culture who pays them, the ones who did not have to take steroids to set world records, the ones who were humble and kind people who were grateful for the opportunities given to them? Where are they? They're not around anymore. What do we have left? Rapists, drug addicts, dog killers, child abusers -- that's who.

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Sure, I'll buy that most people deserve a second change. However, you take someone with an already overinflated ego and overinflated budget and overinflated opportunity and essentially say, "Hey, it's cool man. Who hasn't messed up once or twice? We'll still give you the opportunity to make millions of dollars." Punished or not, Micheal Vick is not one of the millions of people who genuinely deserve a second chance.

Let's hope Snyder is out of the country on an island with no phones.

The difference between a Dr. and a lawyer is the code of ethics required to have those jobs. There is no code of ethics to be a football player or a banker for that matter and plenty of them get convicted of felonies and go back into their profession.

And there is no hypocrisy. He paid his debt to society. The organization that sanctions him to be eligible to play has spoken. That is that.

AMR2, exactly what does your "boycott" entail? You will what, hold your breath if that team plays on TV? LOL

"AMR2 Posted: I will boycott any team that is desperate enough to take him."
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Wow. NFL owners better watch out! AMR2 will boycott the heck outta you! Your family will go hungry. Next thing, you will find yourself on the street corner with a tin cup, all because of ol' AMR's boycott! You have been warned so take heed!

Puhleeez! Can you believe this clown??? The ego on some people. Get a life, AMR2!

Way to go NFL- yet again presenting us with a prime role model for America's youth such as Micheal Vick! Yes, you too can engage in cruelty to animals and break the law and still have to opportunity to make millions!

Michael Vick organized dog fights. He did not organize Bum Fights. If he had, then he would not have run afoul of the legal system.

PERMANETLY BAN VICK FROM THE NFL!!!!
You've got to say enough is enough somewhere along the way, I mean first Pac-Man Jones and now this! I guess there really is no boundary as to what talent/money can by you (i.e. forgiveness?)

Vick's actions deserved punishment. He has been punished and payed his debt to the society.

In a country where 56 year old male like Cheney don't have to pay "any" price for torturning and killing human beings. It is time to let a 27 year old man (at the time of the crime) to move forward with his life after he is punished for torturing animals.

Who cares AMR2 that you will boycott any team that signs Mike Vick, you probably don't have season tickets with any team anyway! Good job commish Goodell now let's play some football.

I accept that Michael Vick has served his sentence and paid his debt to society. However - like any formerly convicted felon - he should not be able to go back to his previous employment. Convicted felons usually don't get their old job back...unless of course, they play in pro sports. Do doctors who serve time for crime of medical negligence get to be doctors again? No. Do convicted murders who happen to be lawyers or dentists or anything else get to return to their previous positions after serving their sentences? No. But in the NFL - where money is everything - we turn a blind eye. The hypocrisy is appalling.

Who wants to bet Snyder has his cellphone in his sweaty little child-like hands dialing Vick's number right now!

I will boycott any team that is desperate enough to take him.