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The Ravens finally get a decent QB and now they piss him off! Defense is getting old quick and Flacco is not in love with Baltimore...

I'm a Skin fan and I understand how someone had to take the fall here but Cameron should have been fired. I'm no Zorn apologist since he was obviously unqualified to coach the Skins. But Harbaugh appears to have lost his mind. Cam Cameron basically ruined a Super Bowl team with at times conservative AND idiotic play calling. Let's review:

1. JZ DID NOT call the plays. Cameron did.
2. Flacco had his best year statistically under JZ.
3. In at least 4 of the 5 losses that Baltimore suffered this season, including the playoff game, the Ravens tried to sit on a lead. Just look at the film, particularly in the NE game!
3. The most important play of the Raven's regular season occurred in week 13 at home versus the Steelers. The Steeler O had done nothing for 3.5 quarters. Zip. Baltimore had the ball, with under 4 minutes to play, possession on its own 35 and 2nd and 5. A first down run gained 5 yards! Two first downs and the game is over. However, genius Cameron called the ill-fated pass play that resulted in the blind side hit by Polamalu. We know the rest. That disaster of a play handed the Steelers homefield advantage on a Tiffany platter. Cameron called the play, but JZ takes the fall? Are you serious?
4. The Ravens had a 14 point lead at halftime of the Steeler playoff game. The Raven offense played like a BAD high school team in the 2nd half. 3 TO's on 3 consecutive possessions! And somehow Cameron keeps his job?
5. Let's be honest. The Ravens window may have closed for now. The D is a little old. The corner's are slow and the team needs an overall upgrade in the speed department. Giving Cameron another year is a dumb idea.

Jim Zorn is being made the scapegoat in Baltimore. It's easy to use him as the excuse instead of bringing in another offensive coordinator and have to learn a whole new scheme!

Truthfully the problem is Flacco.

Zorn is a joke, but the kid Flacco typically looks for 1 WR and 1 WR only. That's typically Derrick Mason. Once his primary is taken he's only secondary WR is mason. You saw it this year, when the Ravens had 2 solid WRs as alternatives.

Blame it on Cam or Zorn, but flacco needs to learn how to unlock from his primary or trusted WR.

Posted by: oknow1

Reality:
If it were not for the WP web blog would anyone even know what you think or care? We the joke whispers, we the joke.

I guess Zorn didn't improve Flacco. Zorn will end up in Cleveland working for Holmgren in some capacity.
I hope the the Ravens start having nothing but losing seasons and I hope Ray Lewis never gets in the Hall of Fame.

Posted by: neil64 | January 27, 2011 9:42 PM

Negative on both loser. The ravens will keep winning and Lewis will be a 1st time Hall of Fame inductee. He has money, fame, and a legacy. You are a hater on a blog wishing for something that wont happen. How about wishing the ravens well and doing something to make your life better so you dont have to go on blogs trashing others so you can feel better about yourself.

Truthfully the problem is Flacco.

Zorn is a joke, but the kid Flacco typically looks for 1 WR and 1 WR only. That's typically Derrick Mason. Once his primary is taken he's only secondary WR is mason. You saw it this year, when the Ravens had 2 solid WRs as alternatives.

Blame it on Cam or Zorn, but flacco needs to learn how to unlock from his primary or trusted WR.

Every single Ex-Skin player and coach wins more after moving to a new team.

I personally think Flacco regressed this season. Perhaps the traditional statistics don't indicate this, but my unscientific observation showed he was worse on third down conversions and overlooked more open receivers. (Sounds a little like '09 Jason Campbell if you ask me.)

If you go read the Baltimore Sun, most folks there are questioning Cam Cameron, not Jim Zorn. The OLine coach also got canned, and compared to last season, when Cam was also the OC, Flacco's #'s were overall the same but he had more TD's and less INT's this year.

Feeling is that both the OLine coach and Zorn are being made scapegoats for Baltimore's inconsistent offense. Cameron has been OC for 2 season, and Baltimore suffers from the same problems, they havent improved or gotten a more consistent passing game nor more production, especially against elite defenses in the league.

WELL SAID bfjam. I couldn't agree with you more.

WELL SAID bfjam. I couldn't agree with you more.

Ravens fans don't deserve their team. Three playoffs in 3 years - yah, 28 other teams would like to be that dysfunctional. Little Danny Snyder would knock down doors to hire anyone to make him half as dysfunctional as Biscioti.

Zorn - good guy, not a good match for that team, better off not being in DC too.

randysbailin wrote:

"Zorn was happily working as a QB coach in Seattle until Snyder got his grubby hands on him. Now he's a leper who'll be lucky to get a job coaching some high school kids in Muncie, Indiana."

BTW - High School football in Muncie Indiana is much better than the third tier semi-pro football Washington DC has called the Redskins.

I think Zorn moved Flacco's game back, not forward. In the NFL, if you fail in one place, that entitles you to fail somewhere else.

Actually Coach Zorn did a good job coaching Joe Flacco - the numbers don't lie - more yards, better TD/INT ratio, return to the playoffs. The Ravens (Cam in particular) needed a scapegoat and Zorn was convenient. Harbaugh backed his OC Cameron. Cam is actually better suited to QB coach, he was a one time Redskins coach as well. His OC skills are questionable though. Good luck to Jim Zorn - he is one of the few 'good guys' in the cut-throat NFL coaching business. He keeps his principles and ethics and is a fine person. Rare these days. He is a good coach as well, and will land in a better team situation I would think. As we know by now the Redskins problems had little to do with Jim Zorn and a lot to do with the team management and talent level.

Zorn can always smile at those checks still coming from Dan Dummy, as the next guy (Shanny) loses here without Elway.

in other words, he was fired.

Not sad for Zorn, Jim go home to Seattle take the family and enjoy a years vacation by way of all that money you got from Snyder. Enjoy life while your young

The Danny paid him enough to retire. Why not enjoy it and go fishing?

Dysfunctional Ravens? How many times have the Ravens been to the playoffs in the last five years? And how many times have the Redskins?

There's only one quality NFL team that plays its games in Maryland, and its not the Redskins ...

So, you boneheads blame Dan Snyder for the Ravens' firing of Jim Zorn? Vinny Cerrato got Zorn out of D.C. Again, folks give Snyder to much credit and blame. He's not that smart.

I guess Zorn didn't improve Flacco. Zorn will end up in Cleveland working for Holmgren in some capacity.
I hope the the Ravens start having nothing but losing seasons and I hope Ray Lewis never gets in the Hall of Fame.

This is an outrage. The Ravens are about as dysfunctional as my woefully dysfunctional Redskins.
The basic problem with the Ravens is that they did not hire Rex Ryan a few years ago to be head coach and instead chose Harbaugh.

Ryan gets hit all the time about not getting his Jets into the Super Bowl. But I would trade six playoff appearances in the past two years for sitting home watching the games. Being a Redskin fan, I would give anything to have my team of nearly 60 years in the conference title game two years running even if we we lost both times. Ryan is a real football coach and Harbaugh, well, he is a nice guy and you know what they say about nice guys.
But really, he may not be as nice as we think. It reads as though he is trying to make Jim Zorn the fall guy for another failed season. Zorn is a better football man that most of the jerks he has had to deal with in D.C. and Baltimore.

"Zorn was happily working as a QB coach in Seattle until Snyder got his grubby hands on him."

Or maybe he's just not a good coach.

- Ray

Continuation: Zorn's career trajectory and descent: QB coach to hired to be Offensive Coordinator to promoted to be Head Coach to fired as Head Coach to hired to be QB coach to fired as QB Coach.

Zorn was happily working as a QB coach in Seattle until Snyder got his grubby hands on him. Now he's a leper who'll be lucky to get a job coaching some high school kids in Muncie, Indiana.

Poor Jim one trip down "Danny Street" and the guy can't even get a ham sandwich. I always liked his approach and zeal,still think he will make a fine head coach someday,but he better get on as a coach and build his stock back up for in this league it is here today"who?" tomorrow. Good Luck Jim,keep the faith,hang in there and soon enough somebody will wake up to help you cleanse your soul of the "Dantrification". Best Wishes it will turn