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Chat House: The Addition

Each week I'll post a few questions I didn't get to during The Chat House and respond to them in depth. Today's topics: The next Skins' coach and the good and bad among NFL quarterbacks.

Raleigh, NC: The problem with hiring someone like [Mike] Shanahan or [Bill]Cowher, is that it is very difficult to replicate success. Sure [Mike] Holmgren and [Bill] Parcels went to the big game, but it seems more often than not that the coach will be a disappointment. Just average. So, yes, the Redskins should go after a younger assistant or something. But, here's there problem. Could a younger coach go tell the owner to butt out? Change the organization? Shanahan could. Of course, Gibbs and others didn't change anything.

MW: This was the exact point I was making to Tony Kornheiser on his radio show Monday. Basketball seems to be a sport where an iconic coach can make two, three stops and get the same championship-caliber results at each place. Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, Larry Brown obviously come to mind. Football? Not so much. I think it's the exacting nature of the job. Being head coach of an NFL team is so punishing physically and emotionally; I think guys are shot when they leave after 12, 13 years...even fewer than that sometimes. I think they're used up. Cower fits into this category even though he's only 51. I'm pretty sure we're the same age, so 50, 51. I would hire Shanahan to run my franchise if I could, the way Bill Parcells (who, by the way, is the exception to what you and I believe) is running the Dolphins. I'd look first for a younger guy, the way Dan Rooney identified both Cowher and Mike Tomlin. That takes more enterprise, finding out who the new guys are before other teams, but I like it better in pro football.

Quarterback battle: Which Quarterback do you rate as being top dog so far this season?, Brees, Brady, P. Manning, Favre? They are all making pro football very exciting to watch this year.

MW: I see that's our question in "The League" this week. If you ask me which guy I would take to play for life is at stake (okay, we might as well be dramatic about this, right?) I'm taking Peyton Manning right this minute. For most of the last seven or eight years I'd have said Tom Brady, but the injury and his ongoing recovery from it change that just a little. Hey, it's not like Brady had a big lead on Manning anyway. It's the three Super Bowl titles that rank Brady ahead of Manning on the all-time QB list. But, if you're asking me to rank these guys this season in terms of MVP race, I'm going Brees, Favre, Manning and Brady. Hell, three of them are undefeated and Brady's Patriots are 4-2. I don't think there's any argument they're the top four guys, with apologies to Big Ben Roethlisberger whose Steelers have two Super Bowl championships and Eli Manning whose Giants are 5-1 and have a Super Bowl to their credit...It might just be Brees' time. His team's defense -- and let's give a nod to defensive guru Gregg Williams for changing the whole defense down in New Orleans -- gives Brees a real chance to win a Super Bowl. But consistency at the highest level over nearly a decade put Brady and Manning higher up there. And Favre, who I wouldn't take now because he's 40 and belongs really to a different generation of QBs, is way up the all-time list but behind Brady to me and tied with Manning...yes, because of Super Bowls won. Also, if you're asking me based not on this season but on the past five what man I'd take as QB, my life on the line, to win a single game, there's NO QUESTION I'm taking Ben Roethlisberger. Big Game Ben. Every time I'm taking him. I don't care about passer rating. I care about winning the game (saving my life, remember?). He can throw it 50 times or throw it 18 times in a game and still win. He can take a pounding and play right through it better than the others.

Washington, D.C.: QBs are so tough to properly assess -- especially when things are falling apart around them. So, if this season doesn't wreck him, what's your take on Jason Campbell, and what do other neutral observers think? A guy who needs a better cast around him before he takes off (say, a Trent Green), or a guy who's seemingly got all the tools but just doesn't cut it in the NFL (say, a Kyle Boller)?

MW: I'm told by multiple NFL scouts that what Campbell needs is a great QB tutor, somebody like Mike Shanahan or Mike Holmgren or Norv Turner ... that he was rather raw coming out of college and the Redskins' instability on the coaching staff has killed him so far. A recent head coach says the same thing. He might not be good enough, but he might be. The problems he has developed come partially from uncertainty and that partially comes from having too many systems in too few years. I think if he goes somewhere else next year he can still become a top-flight QB ... probably not a Hall of Famer, but a starter who can produce results ...Think Kyle Orton. Look at what he's done in a more sophisticated offensive system! I know Campbell a little bit and like him tremendously. I hope he winds up on another team next year and becomes a great player.


Michael Wilbon

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We were able to keep Rush Limbaugh from owning a franchise because it would be an embarassment to the NFL, why can't we do the same for Snyder? The way he's treated the coaches, players, and fans over the past 10 years should be addressed by the commissioner.

Posted by: emyren | October 22, 2009 1:59 PM
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Can Mike Wilbon please have the balls to call out on Schneider and Cerrato? Like what John Riggins did.


Posted by: iamdawalrus | October 22, 2009 1:06 PM
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I agree with comments that coaches like Shanahan, Gruden, Homgren and others who have won the big game may not be a good fit for the Redskins bench, but they may very well be the fit for general manager. Although there is not much of a track record to prove they can successfully make the transition to the fornt office, there is no doubt that they do not do well when attempting to take another franchise to the big game. Approaching these guys as a general manager may be the best thing for Synder and let them manage the organization. Thanks for keeping the focus on the executive office of the organization because the foundation for its success or failure starts there.

Posted by: theodoreirving | October 21, 2009 2:50 PM
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I think I've nailed the perfect coach. He's the coach of the Wake Forest Demon Deacons. Jim Grobe. I understand he's a college coach, but he has turned around a program that was always the worst in the ACC to a real contender. Best of all, he didn't do it with blue chip players. So perhaps he can take the random crew of Redskins we have and turn them into something. Since we are at the bottom, lets start from the bottom up!!

Posted by: brianjames1 | October 21, 2009 2:00 PM
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While I enjoyed the article today on Sherman Lewis I think you like many others leave out a major piece of the discussion when it comes to hiring people for head coaching jobs. Just because you are qualified for a job doesn't mean you present yourself as the best candidate or are the best fit. Just because Mr. Lewis is a master of the West Coast offense in no way shape or form means he will be a good head coach. While it is easy to imply racial undertones to the subject, could be be something as easy as he is an awful interviewer?? Anyone that has ever hired someone has met the person who on paper is the perfect fit but in person it just doesn't work. Another name to comes to mind here is Jim Fassel. He MUST be the worst interview around to not be able to find heach coaching work these days. Keep up the good work...and the open mind.

Posted by: kuzmickir | October 21, 2009 12:41 PM
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Hey, hey, hey! He’s back from the shed, corn fed, and not read.

Michael "Rudy" Wilbon, the Jayson Blair of the blog generation. He, and fellow Blair-esque grad, Jason “Fat Albert” Whitlock, still most surely will resign and go back to their old jobs as doormen for ACORN.

Guess not. But time does wound all heels and those wikipedia-quoting, libelous fabricators need to take the word “honest” off their list of self-professed superlatives.

That honor, it seems, those charlatans have bestowed on Al Sharpton! What did he pay $65,000 to his last victim?

Oh, take that DUI-homicide, murderer Rick Sanchez of CNN with them. Jeffrey Smuzinick is still crying in mortal pain in the parking lot of Dolphin stadium as rum-soaked Rick and Daddy Fidel leave the scene of their Cuba Libre, vehicular murder in 1990.

Posted by: calconco | October 21, 2009 10:57 AM
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The all cheese pizza Redskins.

Posted by: sewyouthink | October 20, 2009 7:26 PM
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