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Bruce Allen is worthy, but ...

Yes, of course Bruce Allen's resume makes him a worthy hire as the new GM of the Washington Redskins. What he did with the Raiders alone is proof he's capable of both building a championship-caliber team and working successfully with a difficult owner.
Now, here comes the but ...

If Allen is just new cover for a continuation of celebrity football, then the Washington Redskins won't be substantially better off with him than they were with Vinny Cerrato. If Snyder continues to go on scouting trips with Allen, like he did with Cerrato recently to see Texas QB Colt McCoy, then the Redskins will be doing pretty much what they've done in the past, which is to say largely nothing. If Allen was brought in simply to hire old buddy Jon Gruden and then throw away high draft picks while radically overpaying free agents, then the Redskins will stay true to their flawed way of doing football business for the last 10 years.

If Bruce Allen is running the football team and having, overwhelmingly, the final say in personnel decisions -- from the coaching staff to the backup long snapper -- then the Redskins have a chance. If Dan Snyder is making those decisions, then this delirious civic relief over Cerrato's departure and widespread optimism over Allen's arrival will wind up being a complete waste of emotion.

Snyder making business decisions is golden; look at his bottom line.

Snyder making football decisions is a disaster; look at the team's bottom line, its record.
And personally, I'll have to see this transformation to believe it is really happening because the Redskins squandered benefit of the doubt, like so many high draft picks, years ago. The Patriots have earned benefit of the doubt. The Colts have earned benefit of the doubt. The Steelers. Even teams like the Seahawks and Bears, who've been to a Super Bowl recently. The Redskins? As Chad Ochocinco would say, "Child, please."

It's amazing how easy Redskins fans have become. Any hookup with the past is wildly applauded. Allen is the son of former Redskins Coach George Allen, the first coach to take the team to the Super Bowl, and folks are getting all hot-chocolate-by-the-fireplace. The last flashback hire, Joe Gibbs, got the Redskins standing up straight again with a couple of trips to the playoffs, but they weren't exactly formidable in his second stint. Clearly, Snyder is completely a product of Washington, where too many folks would rather look back than ahead. So what if this doesn't work? Will folks get teary-eyed at the hiring of Sammy Baugh's great-great-grandson? This link-to-the past junk is entirely overrated.

Bruce Allen, if left to his own devices, is a good hire because of his track record in the NFL, not because he's George Allen's son. When first Gibbs arrived he had no link whatsoever to the club's past, and he did alright with those three Super Bowl championships, didn't he? What ought to make people feel warm-and-fuzzy about the Redskins is winning, not hooking up with some previous era of success.

Bruce Allen has his own hookups that might play a major role in the future of the franchise. The widespread presumption is that he'll hire Gruden. We know that's right up Snyder's alley because Gruden is a star, somebody he's heard of and impressed by to some degree. Snyder doesn't do nobodies; he'd never hire a 39-yard-old assistant named Joe Gibbs. Never. Not famous enough. Gruden's famous. Won in Oakland. Finished the job Rich McKay and Tony Dungy started and won it all in Tampa. Ties with Notre Dame. Big media star with Monday Night Football. Perfect fit, right?

Yep, just like Marty Schottenheimer was a perfect fit. Just like Steve Spurrier, just like Joe Gibbs the second time around.

The Redskins don't need any more celebrity football. They're going to need at least two young, healthy, capable offensive linemen. They're going to need a feature running back. They could use one All-Pro caliber cover cornerback. They're going to probably need a starting quarterback. Clearly, Snyder has again been trying to replace Jason Campbell, which is the only reason he and Cerrato would be talking to Colt McCoy. If I was advising Campbell, a restricted free agent, I'd do my best to convince him to get the hell away from the Redskins, even if Gruden is coach, what with the way he falls in and out of love, weekly, with quarterbacks.

Perhaps Bruce Allen has some kind of agreement with the owner that he, Allen, has the final say in football personnel matters. Absent that, this news makes a lot of noise but we don't know if it actually says anything.

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Michael Wilbon

 |  December 17, 2009; 1:25 PM ET  |  Category:  Redskins Save & Share:  Send E-mail   Facebook   Twitter   Digg   Yahoo Buzz   Del.icio.us   StumbleUpon   Technorati  
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We might get lucky for awhile if Snyder backs off,but I`m not optimistic.When the TV cameras scanned Snyder`s booth Sunday night,his celebrity guests included Sam Donaldson,Andrea Mitchell,Alan Greenspan [Andrea`s hub]and a few other Washington insiders.That is Snyder at his best...a man of extraordinary ego,holding court,playing the role,loving the limelight and being stroked.He can`t stay out of the way because he clearly believes he is the smartest guy in the room...always!He can make money: he just can`t build a winning football team.

Posted by: bowspray | December 29, 2009 10:51 AM
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We might get lucky for awhile if Snyder backs off,but I`m not optimistic.When the TV cameras scanned Snyder`s booth Sunday night,his celebrity guests included Sam Donaldson,Andrea Mitchell,Alan Greenspan [Andrea`s hub]and a few other Washington insiders.That is Snyder at his best...a man of extraordinary ego,holding court,playing the role,loving the limelight and being stroked.He can`t stay out of the way because he clearly believes he is the smartest guy in the room...always!He can make money: he just can`t build a winning football team.

Posted by: bowspray | December 29, 2009 10:49 AM
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Wilbon is partly correct. We need to trade Dan Snyder to a business struggling Franchise for late round picks.
Seriously we did notice some good things in a horrible season. Draft picks do work if researched. We need to dump these old receivers randel'l, moss. We need to dump our running backs, Portis, Betts. We need the following in this order in 2010 Draft.
Running back- The next Great White RB Tobey G. or CJ Spiller who is versatile. I would try to get both if possible. We need safety and cornerback help. Then hit OL. Then go get John Booty with a future draft pick. Remember Go young!!!!!

Posted by: GotBallz | December 28, 2009 5:59 PM
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Last year I while travelling in Europe I saw a sticker on a bar that was clearly posted by a Manchester United fan. The sticker said "Love the Man, Hate the Glazer". It appears that the Man U fans hate the current owners (Glazer Family). I would love to put a sticker in my car that reads: LOVE THE 'SKINS, DUMP THE DANNY

Posted by: gwupete | December 28, 2009 9:27 AM
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For some reason, we all jump to conclusion that Dan Synder is this bad owner that just can't keep his hands out of the cookie jar. Synder wants to win just as bad as any owner in the league; he grew up as a Redskins' fan. The problem is that he just been receiving bad advice from his top lieutenant. Now that he finally replaced Vinny boy with a more competent, someone who knows football and has a proven record, to provide him with good football decisions, we'll see a change. Even Joe Gibbs was his puppet and not providing him with good advice. Gibbs was too nice of a coach and president the second time around.

Posted by: sheppard1 | December 26, 2009 3:57 AM
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I hope to GOD that the Redskins don't squander a high first round draft pick on Colt McCoy. They already have a Colt. His last name is Brennan. Have they forgotten Heath Shuler. The skins need an offensive line and Safeties that can actually cover somebody.

Posted by: mv0237 | December 25, 2009 11:18 AM
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"People. Wilbon's right on this one. As a life-long Skins fan and Washingtonian, I've come to realize that most fans are delusional. They're, in fact, "fanatics".

Sports are the only area in which we'll continue to patron a business that constantly presents a bad product. If you went to a restaurant and the service and/or food was horrible, you wouldn't go back until ownership changed. Why do you all continue to go to games and put money in Danny boy's pockets? I do believe that Wilbon has the answer to this question, even if you don't like it."

Your point is well taken. So what do I do about it? I've never been able to afford Skins tickets anyway. My parents never could either. I get a shirt or a hat every now and then.

Great idea, we should all be steelers fans- until some other team wins the superbowl, then we will become fans of that team. I guess if we were all bandwagon fans, the Redskins would be a perennial Superbowl contender.

Posted by: jboogie1 | December 23, 2009 3:25 PM
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According to ESPN.com:

" Chris Mortensen recently has reported, Snyder hired Bruce Allen to be the General Manager because Shanahan wanted Snyder to hire Bruce Allen to be the General Manager."

So apparently he wasn't hired just because of his name.

So we haven't won a Superbowl in 10 years. Does that mean Washingtons management style is somehow more flawed than every other team (including the Bears) that hasn't done so? We at least won a playoff game in the last 5 years. There are at least a handful of teams in the NFL that wish they could say that.

Posted by: jboogie1 | December 23, 2009 3:13 PM
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WOW! What a brilliant analysis from Wilbon... let me summarize it: if the organization hires a guy to change the way it operates, but the organization doesn't change the way it operates then it will continue to have the same results as before.

Posted by: b1rd | December 23, 2009 2:01 PM
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Come on, Mike. Jim Zorn was not celebrity football. Bruce Allen's history with the Redskins made it an easy deal to close, but you said it yourself, his track record speaks for itself. Snyder has gone out on a limb many times and failed (Spurrier, Zorn). That doesn't mean it won't work this time simply because it appears to fit some pattern of behavior. Let's give it a chance.

Posted by: hessola | December 23, 2009 1:58 AM
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People. Wilbon's right on this one. As a life-long Skins fan and Washingtonian, I've come to realize that most fans are delusional. They're, in fact, "fanatics".

Sports are the only area in which we'll continue to patron a business that constantly presents a bad product. If you went to a restaurant and the service and/or food was horrible, you wouldn't go back until ownership changed. Why do you all continue to go to games and put money in Danny boy's pockets? I do believe that Wilbon has the answer to this question, even if you don't like it.

Posted by: gr8day4it | December 22, 2009 4:51 PM
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Mr. Wilbon, your criticism of Washington football fans makes me think you have forgotten your place in the real world. Sports are not the most important thing in peoples lives, they are a recreational escape from the things that are.

I have always admired the way Washingtonians embrace the Redskins, and their history (good and bad). The nearly 20 years it has taken fans to forget about the championships Joe Gibbs won is not to be ridiculed. Enthusiasm for the Redskins, however irrational, is something that brings millions of Washingtonians together across racial, social, economic, and political boundaries. You seem to view such enthusiasm as a hindrance to a franchise.

Posted by: jboogie1 | December 22, 2009 12:54 PM
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Chi-Child-Mike!!!!!

YOU SAID IT SO RIGHT!!!!!!!!

AS LONG AS DANO HAS HIS HANDS INTO THE PUDDING - IT WILL BE A NASTY, PUTRID STEW.

p.s. as my friend, Sonny once said, "if Dano would just leave the country during football season, they might have a chance."

Posted by: duru44 | December 21, 2009 1:29 PM
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For those who dramatically declare that Wilbon is stupid for saying Snyder doesn't hire nobodies because "what about Zorn?!", please feel free to get real. Zorn has been a total placeholder, expendable coach who was hired precisely BECAUSE Snyder could not land a Name and wanted somebody with little clout and a low probability of success so he could let them go whenever he could find his next Name to overpay to work for him so Snyder could get a fresh fix of temporary reflected glory.

It is not even remotely "negative" for anyone to point this out. Real fans deal with reality and don't tar others who speak basic truth regardless of who the speaker's favorite team is.

Posted by: jake177 | December 21, 2009 7:08 AM
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Michael what do you mean Dan doesn't hire nobodies? Jim Zorn was a nobody and he hired him? Or are you as amnesiatic about the last two years as I am.

Posted by: DCDave11 | December 21, 2009 3:00 AM
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One down, one to go- Snyder that is. It's about friggin' time Cerrato got canned. God I wish I was in DC right now to hold up "so long" signs. This is actually a good thing that happened here Mike Wilbon. Everyone knows that you are a negative columnist. Even if the Redskins become as successful as the Patriots, you will still something negative to write about. So screw you!! And let us enjoy this moment.

Posted by: vic1173 | December 21, 2009 1:35 AM
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Mike is soooo right. Does anyone in their right mind think that the problem is not Synder? Does hiring a new manager change any of that? How much hype has this team generated during its decade long binge of overpriced signings and coaches and other smoke screens to juice the fan base.

Mike needs to stay on Snyder's case because Snyder does not care about anything but making money. All you suckers who spend a dime on anything Reskins-related are buying into a myth that Snyder cultivates so well. Wake up and stop being manipulated by this marketing hump -- until The Dan sees the writing on the wall (that people will not endlessly pay for a crappy product), he will not give up the team (or operations). Anything Wilbon does to expedite that process is golden.

Posted by: buster5 | December 20, 2009 3:29 PM
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Mike blew it with this one. The comment about going back to Chicago is appropriate. It is strange to see a Post columnist who continues to root for the home team...for Chicago. I hear the Tribune is a fine paper, Mike. You don't need to root for the Skins - in fact, I'm glad the media was so hard on them this year - but your columns should show smarts and reasoning, not a knee jerk negative attitude.

Posted by: dp3328 | December 20, 2009 11:31 AM
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The premise of this article does not make sense. With Allen's experience I don't think he'd step into a career ending situation. He had to be assured he'd be able to call the shots or he would not have come.

Posted by: utilitiesprocessing | December 20, 2009 9:10 AM
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George Allen's son - a celebrity??? Come on, that is ridiculous. I want to know why Wilbon is still writing for the Post? He's never been a fan of any of Washington teams, and worse he ridicules their fans. I don't want a brownnoser, but I don't want the opposite either. Come on Post, get wise. Wilbon has few fans in this area.

Posted by: golfhokie | December 19, 2009 10:19 PM
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The fans are excited because there is a little hope. This management team has been such a disaster. The skins have way to much talent to have such a bad record.
I hope Jason Campbell does get the heck out of Washington. He is not good enough to be a starter in the NFL.

Posted by: thegoodings2 | December 19, 2009 6:46 PM
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Hey wilbon Redskins Nation is excited that we finally got rid of cerrato and now have a GM. Its pretty neat that he happens to be the son of George Allen.

Move back to Chicago and shut your face.

Regards,

Will R.
Head of Fan Development
Washington Redskins

Posted by: willyr65 | December 19, 2009 1:49 PM
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I agree with the basic premise : if Allen truly has final say on football matters (and Snyder is distanced from football decisions) then this is not only a good thing, but maybe even a crucial turning point , it would mean Snyder has finally come to terms with the fact he (with Ceratto's enabling) is the core problem .. If not, if Allen is just a new Vinny, well then nothing changes ... But I can't help but think / hope that Allen has enough going for him that he wouldn't lower himself to that ,it's not like he had no other prospects -- so fingers crossed ....

Posted by: RoidRage | December 19, 2009 11:43 AM
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Mike, I typically don't have a problem with your arguments, EXCEPT the ones that are centered around the fans and fan sentiment. I think it dilutes the common sense portions of what you're trying to say, even though granted, what you write is OPINION, so I guess it's your right to go there. Maybe I'm mistaken, but most people were celebrating and planning parties with Vinny's resignation...nobody even KNEW who was going to replace him until some time later. So, to suggest that the fans are going wild mainly because of our new GM's last name is just...weird and out of place. I have noticed a tendency to smirk and roll eyes at Skins' fans and their often overdone passion in your comments. But I really don't think it makes sense to bring it up EVERY time the fans are happy, especially when plenty of SENSIBLE people (Skins' fans and others who don't care, alike) are cautiously applauding the move as well.

A fan is a fan is a fan and to characterize ANY team's fans with one sweeping generalization is, without a doubt, incomplete. Not that every piece you write should say, "Skins fans are stupid...well except for the ones that aren't," or some other similar disclaimer. But a little bit of balance would be nice. We fans who are loyal and care but aren't frothing at the mouth with delirium always seem to be lumped in with the masses, but when other teams are praised for their "intelligent fans", their dummies don't get any mention. Seems a bit lopsided. But, other than that, your points are legit and usually pretty sensible. I enjoy your columns and chats. They're more thought provoking than most.

Posted by: DieHardLady | December 19, 2009 10:54 AM
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"Snyder doesn't do nobodies; he'd never hire a 39-yard-old assistant named Joe Gibbs. Never. Not famous enough." Uhhhh. Zorn who????

Posted by: maew | December 19, 2009 9:50 AM
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I am definitely not sticking up for Snyder ... but to say he'd never hire an unknown like when Gibbs was hired his first time around with the team ... is just inaccurate. Jim Zorn was not a celebrity hire ... no even close. He wasn't necessarily a good hire, but that is another story.

Posted by: MMDCA | December 19, 2009 9:48 AM
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TRYUMPFANT-

Spot on! Russ Grimm is the best hire. Period!

Posted by: tony11 | December 18, 2009 3:03 PM
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Dan needed to pump up holiday merchandise sales...this is a $$$ move in the short and long term...change brings optimism...Dan only sees $$$ and that is all he had to tell Vinny..."it's not working for the business, look at sales this year vs last couple of years"

Posted by: Ilikecougars | December 18, 2009 2:39 PM
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Wilbon's right on this one. Like John Madden said years ago-you just can't have too many big bodies in there; 4 or 5 good O linemen will make many a so-so QB look great. Look at it this way- if the current Skin's had Brady or Peyton Manning, how would they play? Not worth a tinker's damn-instead of 7-10 seconds in the pocket, they would be continually slammed to earth-til their shoulder's trashed. Snyder also needs to keep his schnoz out of player personnel matters.

Posted by: rlmayville | December 18, 2009 2:37 PM
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Someone here made the comment that the current bucs roster was not the fault of Gruden or Allen, then who was responsible for the players on this team. He also made the comment that Allen was the architect for the 2002 superbowl team, this is flat out false!!!! It was Rich McKay and Tony Dungy not Allen that assembled that team. Gruden got a gift the first words out of his mouth in his first post superbowl interview he said "This was Tony's team" and Richs team not Allen. It is true that Allen was the George Young executive of the year in 2002 for the Raiders but not Tampa. He was hired in 2004 and the first year as GM the team went 5-11 then in 2005 they went 11-5 and went to the playoffs. They were 4-12 in 2006 and 9-7 in 2007 and 2008 and he and Gruden were fired last year. Although the current bucs staff does not have a lot of experience they do not have any talent as well and YES ALLEN is responsible to this years Roster. Even if Allen and Gruden were still in tampa..and they had this same roster they would still finish last in the NFC South!!! So Allen and Gruden are party responsible for the current mess in Tampa.. Its very convienent that Mike left that info out. And if you look at the raiders the year after the superbowl the team that Allen built went (2003)4-12, 5-11 (2004) and 4-12 in 2005. So he does have a very mediocre track record as a GM. HE is a GM nevertheless and is an upgrade when compared to Vinny!!

Posted by: 70chiponwhite | December 18, 2009 1:11 PM
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Have they given up on Colt Brennan? Why is there talk about drafting a QB? Colt been waiting 2 years to get a chance to start, give him a chance or let him go to another team. I think you might be surprised on what he can do because he did good in preseason and the team seemed to rally around him. John Madden even noticed it when he did a Redskin pre season. I think the Redskins should try to get O-linemen and Alabama running back Mark Ingram.

Posted by: kvanname0610 | December 18, 2009 12:58 PM
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WILBON's a schmuck!!!!

it is a wait and see approach, so before you make your final judgment, Wait and see!

no one cares about your opinion, you're a Bear's Fan go suck up to Jay "I throw INT" Cutler

Posted by: datruth21 | December 18, 2009 12:46 PM
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As a life-long Redskins fan, I would like to say that all of you guys slamming Wilbon prove why the Redskins have become a second-rate team. While I don't agree with him on many occassions, nothing in this article is "mean" or arrogant...he is simply stating the fact that Dan Snyder has almost single-handedly destroyed one of the best sports franchises in history only to satisfy his own ego and fantasy-football approach...and all you fans yelling about Wilbon are the dummies that let it happen...because a REAL fan would face the unfortunate truth that in order to save this franchise we all have to BOYCOTT DAN SNYDER...don't go to games, don't buy his stuff...make him realize that the town is MAD and he can't get away with the crap he has gotten away with up until now. Yelling at a sports writer is the LAST thing anyone should be doing!!

Posted by: thompsond1 | December 18, 2009 12:39 PM
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Two things in this column are extremely laughable:
1. The claim that Snyder doesn't do nobodys.
2. The claim that the Bears are a franchise to be emulated. I mean HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Posted by: WhoSays | December 18, 2009 12:29 PM
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Mike,

Why do you continue to report on the Redskins? Your columns are worthless. I live near Chicago and I happen to think you fit right in with all the people from Chicago. You are an arrogant, pessimistic, tarnished, old and tired columnist. I hope we beat your Bears 45-0 next year with our lame GM and "too good to be true" head coach.

Posted by: randyhaze | December 18, 2009 12:15 PM
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You Mr Wilbon are so biased and ignorant
about the Redskins you cannot make an
objective comment. You should put all
your energy writng for a Chicago newspaper
and get out of DC. I for one am tired of
your negatvity so please get lost

Posted by: bobs426 | December 18, 2009 12:03 PM
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I think Synder was genuinely embarrassed by the team this year. I think he realized that the way the team was being run was not productive. He's not an idiot.

As for you Mike, you just want to keep on bad mouthing the Skins and Synder. I prefer Jenkins, Wise and the others for news and I have no further use for your opinions. Goodbye forever.

Posted by: tmunroe | December 18, 2009 11:58 AM
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There's nothing wrong with Wilbon's logic and opinions, as usual; also as usual, there's a mean-spirited, hard-edged viciousness and cruelty evident in the writing that few competent sports writers would ever approach.

As if it were a virtue, Wilbon always demonstrates his hatred of the Redskins and Washington area fans, so this is just another example of typically rotten Wilbon, who, because he's a friend of Tony's, has managed ride those coat tails and to pass himself off as somehow credible in the mainstream, when in fact he's really just an opinionated jerk.

Indeed; go back to Chicago, where you belong, and where perhaps they admire such consistent rampantly demonstrated pure hatred (engendered by obviously deep-seated and well placed self-loathing).

What I mean, Mike, is that you hate yourself, and it often bleeds through in your rather weak, but almost always nasty, writing.

Posted by: Tedskins1 | December 18, 2009 11:55 AM
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Vinny and his relationship with Snyder have been an obstacle to hiring an "A-list" coach. That is the reason we wound up with Zorn. No coach worth a darn would touch the Redskins with such a dysfunctional management team. Getting rid of Vinny and hiring a respected GM is a signal to the Shanahans, Grudens, and others that things have changed. It's a door opener, but the Danny has to follow through and leave the football decisions to football people. He has to show that he has changed too.

Posted by: allknowingguy | December 18, 2009 11:53 AM
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Mike, you carp for years that Synder needs a GM. He hires a good one, then you keep throwing rocks at Synder. You suck.

Posted by: tmunroe | December 18, 2009 11:44 AM
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It's time for you to go back to Chicago, You hate on the skins so much lately, why are you still in D.C.? I can' wait until next year when we beat your sorry team, with our messed up team,Maybe then you can report about lovie and his bears and what that teams needs to do to be a champion,give your negetive insights to that team.Have a Merry Christmas
MR. GRINCH (aka the redskin hater) bye bye

Posted by: cranford23 | December 18, 2009 11:44 AM
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Thanks Wilbon. Fans always get excited at change, and the presumption as that it is for the better. I have high hopes for Allen and that Snyder will get comfortable taking a back seat, as Steinbrenner eventually did. But until that happens, i'm preparing for more of the same.

Posted by: SKINS831 | December 18, 2009 11:24 AM
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Aw C'mon Wilbon, for cryin' out loud!
The Redskins finally do something worthy of change and you have to be a wet blanket about it!

Can't you just shut that big pessemistic pie hole of yours for the Christmas Holidays?

What a L-O-S-E-R!!!!!!!

Posted by: burro2 | December 18, 2009 10:40 AM
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I agree with Mike. There is no question that Dan Snyder has hired Allen as publicity stunt. Just in time for Redskin fans to buy next years season tickets. Bruce Allen has the title of Vice President, so who is the President? Supposedly Mike Shanahan will be President of Football Operations but what gives him the credentials to have that position? Two Super Bowls ten years ago with John Elway? Poor decisions. *fingers crossed* Hire Russ Grimm

Posted by: tryumpfant | December 18, 2009 10:23 AM
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look, he worked with al davis in oakland and helped bring the raiders to the super bowl...that counts for something.

more importantly, he's the first actual general manager in synder's entire tenure.

finally...you must be joking when you say synder doesn't do "nobodies." who, then, is coaching this organization? maybe he does like to make a splash, but i bet, with every last dollar, snyder would just love to pick up some nobody, hire him and have him go down as the best coach in 'skins history...

Posted by: bacaje | December 18, 2009 10:11 AM
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I've always liked Mike Wilbon, even though he is not a Skins fan. He is for everything Chicago. I lived in Chicago for 30 years, so I am with him on some of that. But my loyalty to the Skins goes back farther. For most of some 70 years. I watched Sammy Baugh in his latter years, when he could still toss 'em. So I give Wilbon some slack. And I can understand his skepticism. We should all be skeptics after living through what we have with Snyder. But I prefer to think that Snyder has finally gotten the message and hired a true general manager, a proven one, and given him all the usual power and privilige that goes along with it. As to a coach, I would prefer Cowher, but I guess that's not in the cards. I do like Shanahan over Gruden. However, there is one comment in all the coverage about these changes that puzzles me. It said that Shanahan would be hired and given all the power of a coach and GM. How is that going to work? It sounds ridiculous to me. If there is any truth to it, all that it would set up is a power struggle at the top that would overshadow any potential gains the Skins could make. That whole thing has to be cleared up. Otherwise, I am totally on board. Mike, I hope we can win you over after all.

Posted by: scribebob | December 18, 2009 10:07 AM
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Wilbon is right.

1) If Snyder is still playing puppet master thinking that he'll be able to improve the team then tell the fans how wrong they were we're doomed to more losing

2) If choosing Bruce Allen was done for the same reason he backed out of the Fassel deal (Fan reaction), then he doesn't really want Allen and we'll end up with Snyder consulting with Cerrato behind the scenes... and more losing.

3) Everyone loves thinking back to the good old days, but I don't want to pay $2000 a year for nosebleed season tickets so I can watch reruns of the glory years on the jumbotron. I want to see good athletes being well coached on the field.

Posted by: ProfessorWrightBSU | December 18, 2009 9:07 AM
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Oh do shutup Wilbon. All of us "little people" are so stupid as to be happy with a tie to the skins. No you moron we're happy that we actually have a GM. No one cares about his last name.

If you actually weren't so busy grandstanding you'd see his name is more associated with his brother these days and it's had negative consequences...

Posted by: Gweez | December 18, 2009 8:12 AM
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Yeah! And another thing, Wilbon, you bald-headed Chicago carpet-bagging jack azz! We don't need you pisssin on our Glory Day either!

George Allen single handitly bilt the Raiders into the team they are today, and he did the egzact same with those Bucks too. So we know he going do it to those Redskins in a hurry, say haey now.

I love sally jimkins and Bozwill and Wise, like the other people says and you are no good because of your ingknorance.

unlike me 'cause I is smart, like all us Redskins fans is.

-sincerely, your typical venomous Redskin fan clone who deserves whatever he continues to shovel into his mouth from that which is dished out to him, albeit at exorbitant prices.

Posted by: Thinker_ | December 18, 2009 7:53 AM
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Looking back? Skins fans will always look back, huh?? I guess I don't have to look back as far as you would, Mr. Wilbon. So much for the pot calling the kettle black, bear fan.

Posted by: tony11 | December 18, 2009 2:54 AM
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Allen was voted executive of the year in 2002 and built the Raiders into a Super Bowl team.

Allen also rescued the Bucs from the salery cap hell that Rich McKay placed the team in.

Although the Bucs are 1-12 this year, it is not with Allen and Grudens team as one poster suggested. Gone from last year's Bucs are Derrick Brooks, Cato June, Warrick Dunn, Joey Galloway, Ike Hiliard amoung others. Gruden has been replaced by a 34 year old coach with no head coaching OR coodinator experiance and the offensive coodinator and defensive coodinator have been let go during the season. Don't blame Allen for that mess.

Allen will be good hire as long as he is allowed to do his job.

Posted by: danespo | December 18, 2009 1:39 AM
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Mike, you nailed it. Thanks for saying it. If Danny is still running things behind the scenes and Allen is but a proxy, this is all for naught. It is a PR move because of his heritage. Every move Snyder makes is splashy and this has his signature. But the player favoritism vented through the owner filtering down to the coach has got to stop. If, indeed this is Dan washing his hands of the entire era of owner interference, its a good thing if we hired Ethan Allen or Woody Allen. If not, you are right, its just PR to get the fans to renew season tickets. The only point I would add is that the recent weeks showed we have finally gelled. If we had a kicker we'd have two more wins and two less losses...and maybe be in the hunt for the post season. There's something to be said for continuity...while I am cool with blowing up a busted franchise...it's always darkest before the dawn. And the beginning of this season was dark. But we have young stars stepping up, finally. Part of me wants to see where this line up could go. Two field goals (Dallas and the Saints) and this would be a decent year after all. But we're probably going to lose the centerpiece in the off season. And I don't blame the centerpiece for splitting.

Posted by: 20yrskinfan | December 17, 2009 11:37 PM
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Wilbon,

You had me until, "it's amazing how easy Redskins fans have become."

I used to find your columns insightful, however, it's clear you take glee in the team failing and will find any reason to criticize the organization. I'm all for honest, critical reporting of the team's management, but you're crossing the line into being bombastic for the sake of sensationalism. I respect your right to have an opinion, but insulting the fan base as being fickle: as Ochocinco would say, "child, please."

Posted by: lazor456 | December 17, 2009 11:20 PM
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JUST WIN BABY!!!

Posted by: Mdotty | December 17, 2009 11:12 PM
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Mike,
Like anything you say I sift threw it for what I call "pertinent points". What you fail to point out is that the Buccaneers are at this very moment 1-12 and the majority of the current roster was assembled by Allen and Gruden.

What is pertinent is Allens does have strong ties to the DC area and the fact that his father was George Allen, however, no matter how true your statement about redskins fans infatuation with past player and coaches..... Synder is still a "Marketeer" and this is a "Marketing Stunt". This is Synders feeble and deceptive attempt at Transparency. He needs the fan faith to be restored, he needs their money to meet his credit obligations. Remember the saying " A tangle web we weave when one practices to deceive".

Posted by: 70chiponwhite | December 17, 2009 10:32 PM
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Sorry, Wilbon, usually a fan but this is not a good thesis. Snyder doesn't hire nobodies? Uh... Zorn and Cerrato?

Posted by: rob23 | December 17, 2009 10:25 PM
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Ever notice that the more illiterate/inarticulate the commenter is, the more hostile he is?

The fact that there is a forum -- a forum! -- for these anonymous ravings is beyond me. If you take issue with what somebody says, that's fine. Craft a thoughtful argument and post it. If you can't do that, if you can't summon the words to rebut someone without name-calling and vile, juvenile personal attack, then you don't belong on here. And the Post ought to do something to stop this hate-filled spew. Ravings like this are akin to shouting fire in a public space. They are an abuse -- an abuse against civility and language and discourse.

Please, Washingtonpost.com, for once and for all please insist that posters can no longer hide behind handles and have to provide their real names for all to see (just as Wilbon has done) along with their email addresses to, should one of us be tempted to respond personally (just as Wilbon has done).

A real man doesn't hide behind cover of anonymity and attack another man with crass personal insults.

Posted by: DentonTK | December 17, 2009 10:15 PM
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Wilbon, I'm one of your biggest supporters, but what's with the snipe at Skins fans for wanting to return to the glory days? That's a bit condescending and also dates you, since many of today's fans wouldn't recognize an obvious photo of George Allen. Give it a rest - it's insulting.

As for Cerrato, Chris Mortensen (aka Rumor Control Guy) seems fairly certain the Skins are jonesin' over Shanahan AND that they want to give him personnel control. If this happens, the euphoria of this morning was completely misplaced. Shanahan is a tool and if he's got personnel control, I give up.

Posted by: messykat | December 17, 2009 10:06 PM
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It is undeniable the biggest story is getting rid of Cerrato, football-wise or fan-base-wise. The guy is a doof, and though he did bring in more good players in the past few years, he left us too vulnerable at some positions, which everyone knows. We now project to have a an NFL franchise organizational structure like the 31 other teams, which is good, because like the shape of a boat hull, the design is no accident. We actually have a chance of competing on a level playing field with other teams, finally.

To say that "nothing has changed at all with unless Snyder has changed" is like saying "Wilbon sports articles will continue to be mediocre unless he stops moderately sucking"... its rather self-evident, especially to the readers of this paper.

Analysis of Allen's time in Oakland and Tampa Bay (other than those teams won... and that Tony Dungy did everything and Gruden got lucky, a mild load) would have been more useful, since you are a sports writer that was covering that sort of thing as it happened at the time, right? Show you have special insight with your access, not that you are generally opinionated about headline sports stories. Thanks Stephen A.

Posted by: Redskinnerton | December 17, 2009 9:51 PM
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Wilbon's comments are totally spot on (although Snyder did hire a 55 year old nobody). But this isn't a complicated situation to analyze. Everything Wilbon said is self-evident and true as tomorrow to anyone following the Redskins since before and after the arrival of "Mr. Synder." By the way, when will people stop calling him "Mr." I can't get over that. THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES! When people start telling that to Snyder's face, and stop calling him "Mr.", the situtation might start to improve. Here's to truly hoping that Allen can use his Skins pedigree to tell Snyder to sit down, smile, be patient, and enjoy the ride. As Wilbon says, if not, the Allen hire means nothing. Snyder scouting Colt McCoy!!! What a JOKE, JOKE, JOKE.

Posted by: Mdotty | December 17, 2009 9:38 PM
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This is Danny's pick, if there had been thirty other highly qualified picks Danny would have picked Allen because of the history. Its a PR move, Danny BOY STILL RULES.....just keep paying the big bucks Danny ....people will come.

DANNY BOY RULES

DING DONG the WICKED WITCH IS DEAD !!!

Posted by: dannyboyrules | December 17, 2009 9:20 PM
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Wilbon- you are to sports media what Cerrato was to the redskins. A complete idiot. I can't stand to here you and I wish you would get the axe so my espn radio would be ok again. PTI. Your a joke. You are like the crappy athlete that likes to look good and lose. Not that you look good. You just look good to yourself. And I bet you love to listen to yourself. But you and your redheaded billy goat friend are so annoying on air that I can't help but wonder why sports radio can't find someone else. Maybe even ceratto. You suck. You are not qualified to speak on the redskins behalf. And you sound like some other media person piling on. Even when you were in DC with the post you followed the loser bears and made it clear. I tuned out to you then. Maybe you are still with the post. but i don't really care. When I hear your voice I turn the channel. When I see your words I think what a pompass A$$. But I read them to confirm to myself that you truly do suck. Why don't you follow Vinny..

Posted by: robjway1 | December 17, 2009 9:01 PM
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The last two posters have it exactly right. Wilbon misses the point, almost willfully, nowadays. And while he need not be a cheerleader, he finds the cloud in every silver lining. I'd say the main reason folks are pleased someone named Allen is coming in as GM, aside from meaning it's anyone but Cerrato, is that it means there are still reputable football men willing to take a chance on the Redskins. Maybe it takes an Allen. It means he respects what this team had been many times over the past 25 years and will respect the tradition. One that is now faded and tarnished, admittedly. But that's not living in the past, it's hoping for restored glory. Someone who truly understood DC sports, as opposed to Chicago after all these years, would know that.

Posted by: swhite21 | December 17, 2009 8:59 PM
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wilbon...what's up with u? why r u so bitter about this?

Posted by: curseoflesboulez | December 17, 2009 8:55 PM
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Wilbon, your message is very accurate. The people who whine, "Mr. Wilbon is raining on my sunny parade", are nothing more than "Marching Morons" and compose the essence of a failed and ignorant fan base.

Posted by: fm7319 | December 17, 2009 8:53 PM
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MW man you would take the sunshine and look for rain on it. All those columns on the Redskins need a GM who knew Football has now happened and you say I hope he's not another puppet for the puppet master come on Wilbon I don't think Bruce Allen is that stupid to sign his name on the dotted line for that. Also in all the stories you wrote you never said anything about if they hire a real gm he's just going to be a puppet. Why that comment now?? You must not want the Redskins to turn the corner you are critical on everything even when Sean Taylor died you were critical and took a beating after you article Dying Young While Black. I just read everyone jump on you on the live chat and you had no sympathy what so ever

Posted by: donaldtaylor | December 17, 2009 8:44 PM
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Where Wilbon loses the plot is with the tangential rant on how Skins fans relate Allen as a connection the "glory years".

Really? We do?

You missed it, Wilbon. The story is more about Ceratto leaving rather than who is replacing him.

Posted by: agentbonddc | December 17, 2009 8:29 PM
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Mike no - you're not getting the part about the fan euphoria at all ...

Allen today - Gruden tomorrow.

Game on.

Posted by: slc57 | December 17, 2009 8:22 PM
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Wilbon, please stop railling on the Redskins fans for wanting the best for their team! We are not so overjoyed with the new GM! We are overjoyed by the firing of the idiot Vinny! IMO that was the best move ever! Thank you MR. Dan Snyder for doing the right thing!

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | December 17, 2009 8:10 PM
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Wilbon is nothing more than a windbag who attempts to make people think he knows what he is talking about. He started this article out saying that Allen is a proven GM, but on PTI today that bald head jerk said he didn't think things would work out with bringing Allen in and gave the move a "C"+. What a two faced horses rump.I'm glad I live in Texas (Skins fan)and not close to the DC area where that stinky, bald headed Wilbon is so I don't have to smell him.

Posted by: rmilton | December 17, 2009 8:09 PM
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Wilbon! Wilbon! Wilbon! Wilbon is the MAN!

Posted by: mirf59 | December 17, 2009 7:50 PM
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Wilbon!! Go back to Chicago and leave us Skins fans alone!!! You are not going to ruin this day you carpet bagger!!!

Posted by: egrib | December 17, 2009 7:48 PM
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. Snyder wouldn't hire an unknown? Who was Zorn? A quarterback-cum-quarterback coach from the nether-regions of football nowhere (Seattle)? Sure, an odd gamble but, a gamble. Snyder loves this team and wants to win. He could've jumped on board with cheaper teams with less offensive names and logos if it were true that he was just looking to turn a buck. He wants this team to win, and, who could blame him, wants to be a part of it. This is a smart move. With three games to go, the GM can evaluate talent, coaching, and scouting (which, reportedly, is good but not trusted by higher-ups). As far as the title of VP instead of President, the only title they should be concerned with is Lombardi.

Posted by: 247def | December 17, 2009 7:12 PM
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Thinking positively, Allen hires Gruden, who benefits from a West Coast offense installed by Jim Zorn, an offense starting to function, just as Zorn said it would, in the second half of the second year. That's how long it took with Ken Anderson in Cincinnati, Joe Montana in San Francisco, and Brett Favre in Green Bay. Three years, it's graven in stone. So we'll see.

Posted by: larryhojo | December 17, 2009 7:08 PM
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Wilbon is right about one thing: draft two offensive lineman. Russ Grimm & Mark May,
look at the foundation they provided this team. Lesson #1 in football: everything, offense & defense, starts with the lines.

Posted by: Sirius2 | December 17, 2009 6:58 PM
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Kanye West Wilbon, is a horsesass.

Ive been done with Wilbon ever since he threw Sean Taylor(R.I.P) under the bus, with his ever assuming, misinformed rantings.

Go back to Chi-Town,,,Hack

Posted by: dashriprock | December 17, 2009 6:48 PM
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Danny is the problem, Vinnie was just the puppet. Didn't do a very good job football wise, but he did a great job making Danny think he was a football genius. Here's hoping Danny has accepted that he is a very successful businessman, but a lousy judge of football talent and a terrible leader/manager (you can't show favorites to Prince Clinton P or anyone!) Hopefully Bruce Allen has a clause in his contract that says Danny will stick to the $$ end and let him make the personnel decisions. I'm keeping my money in my pocket til I see proof.

Posted by: humbleandfree | December 17, 2009 6:00 PM
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Good article, Mike. I will take a wait and see attitude, but glad Cerrato is gone. For all of you saying Zorn wasn't a celebrity, remember that Zorn was hired as an assistant, and given the head job when no one else could come to an agreement with Snyder and Cerrato.

Mike, you mentioned Shottenheimer. He was a name. He went 8-8 in his first year. I had hopes with him before Snyder went ga-ga for the "ole ball coach." I think Marty may have gotten the worst treatment of anyone from Snyder.

Posted by: kirk8 | December 17, 2009 5:30 PM
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I am thrilled that Vinny is gone, but he more a symbol of the overall toxic management of the Redskins. Problems start at the top which means ownership and then trickles down through management. I'm of the opinion that Snyder has seen enough criticism and derision from both the fans and the national media that he realizes changing his ways is a necessity to ever fielding a competitive team. Bruce Allen's track record is strong and he has proven capable of working for difficult owners such as Al Davis.

If Snyder truly believes that change is needed, he'll put his huge ego aside and let Allen make all football decisions. That includes the front office, coaches, and choosing the players. If this is a symbolic gesture, we'll be in for another 2-3 years of the same cycle.

Posted by: wizfan89 | December 17, 2009 5:26 PM
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Bruce Allen is worthy, but ... he's white.

Why not for once write about the event and let time tell.

Posted by: hessone | December 17, 2009 5:21 PM
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The problem is Snyder. All he cares about is the bottom line (read: $). So all you suckers who support the "home team" can keep reupping on those overpriced tickets for a mediocre product and buying all the Redskins gear. Your money goes to Danny and he doesn't care about you or this team.

Posted by: buster5 | December 17, 2009 5:20 PM
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For all of you willing to slam Mr. Wilbon for not being a DC native take a look at what he has written. Mr. Boswell has written much of the same. Nothing will change until Dan realizes he is not the next great NFL GM himself. Dan is full of himself and still believes that he can pick the talent and the coaches he hires should be able to win with that talent. It does not work that way in the NFL. You have to make the right choices with the money and draft picks available. This is not MLB where you can buy a great team. A great GM that can spot diamonds in the rough so to speak at draft time is what can give you an edge in such a competitive league.

Mr. Wilbon is right and as a DC area native that grew up with Larry Brown, Charlie Harraway and Sonny Jurgensen posters in my room I will not become a fan again until the current owner is willing to check his ego at the locker room entrance. The only personnel decisions that Jack Kent Cooke was involved in were management positions that is what Danny boy should stick to.

Posted by: rbbeach | December 17, 2009 5:18 PM
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News flash for Mike: The Bears suck and are just as bad as the Skins.

This is much needed move that will hopefully end the countless bad moves over the last decade.

Posted by: skinsFan74 | December 17, 2009 4:59 PM
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I agree snyder doesn't usually hire nobody's, but who was Jim Zorn before he was the head coach? that went against most Snyder purchases, though he may have had an alternative motive for it, but hopefully this guy grabs gruden and keeps what we have and builds on that. Don't tear us apart to build us back up, you won't be around long enough to follow through.

Posted by: madmanstat3 | December 17, 2009 4:57 PM
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Ok, here is my thinking. If Danny was going to continue to micro-manage the GM, then why didn't he keep Vinny? Would he bring in Bruce Allen, just to micro-manage him too? It makes no sense. He already HAD that w Vinny. I HAVE to believe (for my skins sanity) that he brought in Bruce because he has finally, after way too long, realized that he needs an actual football man to run things...

oh, i hope.

Posted by: gs12 | December 17, 2009 4:55 PM
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Ok just shut up Mike a.k.a Chicago native I live in Phoenix your opinion is worthless just like Sally NY Jenkins why don't you guys do something more constructive! Hey this is start for the Danny he just can't make sweeping changes the NFL has policies they must follow...and remember before you can walk you must crawl...or have you idiot WP writers forgotten that?

Posted by: papaskynz | December 17, 2009 4:53 PM
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Wilpon is an idiot. in the same paragraph he said Allen souldn't go on scouting trips to check out new young talent followed by he should spend big money on free agents!!! Well what's left keep what they have?? Snyder didn't need Allen for that. Look Allen and the new HC.. maybe Gruden but whoever will want to build THEIR TEAM!!! Start by dumping Campbell and Portis.. Skins never won with them. I hope they give Colt Brennan a shot.. but the QB position is were most new GM's and HC's start.. and the Skins need a new one...

Posted by: sovine08 | December 17, 2009 4:52 PM
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Snyder would never hire a noname assistant? What do you call Jim Zorn? You are truly dumb Wilbon.

Posted by: wewbank1 | December 17, 2009 4:49 PM
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Geez, that's a lot of words to say that this team won't succeed until Snyder stops meddling, which has been already said by pretty much anyone who knows a thing about the Redskins. Does MW ever sit down and think about things before he writes?

Posted by: mike8 | December 17, 2009 4:49 PM
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i don't like ANY of the WaPo Skins writers but Wilbon is the one I least dislike. Best article written about the Skins in weeks. Bravo Mike.

True, if the Danny is still making the deci$ion$ at the end of the day, the team is doomed.

i agree, tell JC to get away as far as he can go, he deserves better - and so do the Skins! i've had enough of that LOSER.

Posted by: dc1020008 | December 17, 2009 4:48 PM
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At times, Wilbon is as mysterious and cocky as both Dan Snyder and Tony Korn combined. That is a deadly combination for a "tough" Bears fan compared to "easy" redskins fans. As Chad Ochocinco would say, "Child, please."

Posted by: KarK | December 17, 2009 4:47 PM
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Mike Wilbon, you are out of touch with the fans and with this city. Why don't you just leave your supercilious comments to yourself and take your carpet bag and move back to Chicago and write about Da Bears. We do not need or want your off based negativity!

No one cares about Allen's liniage, but you! You brought that up in your stupid column and it is a stupid column

Posted by: skaterdizzy1 | December 17, 2009 4:43 PM
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As usual, Right On Mr. Wilbon!

Not sure where you were heading re: the "back-up long snapper." but two of the three missed field goals by the now discarded kicker were high snaps that if were on target might have been good FGs.

That action may be regretted. Ironic that it may have been Vinny's last action.

Posted by: 15of18 | December 17, 2009 4:42 PM
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Hey Wilbon! You are so uccustomed to repeating the same crap that you're slipping. Yes, Snyder likes to make "celebrity" hires; we all know that (we don't need you to tell us over and over and over again)...but to say "Snyder doesn't do nobodies..." is just plain lazy reporting. Correct me if I'm wrong, but last I checked Zorn was a "nobody" assistant before coming to the Redskins. Lazy Wilbon. Just lazy.

Posted by: 86Cerrato | December 17, 2009 4:41 PM
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Whaddaya mean Snyder would never hire a 39-yard-old assistant named Joe Gibbs? Wasn't his last head coaching hire a mostly-unknown QB coach?

Posted by: smshadowman | December 17, 2009 4:38 PM
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In most cases Wilbon is just like you and I. He is just posting what he thinks. Just because he gets paid to do this doesn't mean he has a higher or lower football IQ than me or you. Wilbon is also the same guy who said Zorn was a good hire. Go back and check his article on that. Everyone in the sports media world has an opinion, whether they can validate it with facts or not. As far as reaching back in the past, I agree with a previous comment that the only ones doing this are media types like Wilbon. Truthfully, I like Michael Wilbon and I think that he is an intelligent guy, but he can't speak for me. If I thought that the Redskins were reaching back in the past at the George Allen era, I would say that's a big mistake. Who needs another over the hill gang? I say let's begin the Bruce Allen era with a Hail Redskins, but if he does what Vinny has done (be a yes a man) then we ask for his head as well.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | December 17, 2009 4:34 PM
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Right on.

People are glad-handing Snyder? That's Ignorance with a capital G. If Snyder doesn't take his shades and schnozz totally out of the football operation, all he did was just hire another stooge with a Skins last name. ("The Gibbs Years," when I say it, ended in 1992.)

All Snyder has done here is give a very likely fake hint that he's changing his ways. NOT holding my breath on this. Especially if he hires Latest Hot Shots Oh Yeah Fired From Previous Coaching Jobs Shanahan or Gruden.

Posted by: poorskins | December 17, 2009 4:32 PM
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Best article I have read in a long time. Plus, I agree....

Posted by: dlfumuc | December 17, 2009 4:32 PM
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Mr. Wilbon is the shit. I mean that as a compliment.

Posted by: mtruslow | December 17, 2009 4:30 PM
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I notice Wilbon and several other writers always using the "what with" idiom (it's literally in almost every Wilbon column these days) -- as in, "If I was advising Campbell, a restricted free agent, I'd do my best to convince him to get the hell away from the Redskins, even if Gruden is coach, WHAT WITH the way he falls in and out of love, weekly, with quarterbacks." I think they do it to draw attention to themselves ("look at me! look how cool I can write!"). Personally I find it an extremely annoying and vain literary habit. Yes Mike, we all know you can write.


Posted by: davis4 | December 17, 2009 4:25 PM
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Cerrato & Zorn, Allen & Gruden, Me & Bailey (my dog)....... it doesn't matter. The guys on the field make the plays - not the Owner, GM or coach. I am so sick of this s***. What the Redskins need to do is create some continuity with their system, especially on offense. Drafting for the O line and a young stud RB with fresh legs wouldn’t hurt either.

Here are some stats for you. 7-1/4 games with Portis – 287 yds/game offense, 13 Pts/game. 7-1/4 games withOUT Portis – 377 yds/game offense, 24 Pts/game. This team changed dramatically in the 2nd quarter of the Atlanta game when Portis went down. No longer did opposing teams know there was a 75% probability that Portis was running the ball off left takle on 1st and 2nd downs. And Portis’ ankles and knees aren’t what they used to be. Seeing Quiton Ganther make a few cuts will tell you that.

Here’s what you do – Get Gruden, or keep Zorn, or get Shanahan (with Allen – no way!) or get Gruden and keep Zorn as Jason Campbell’s backup – I DON’T CARE, BUT KEEP JC. He is better than anyone that will be available and there is no way a rookie will come in and produce. Oh yeah, his QB rating is better than Sanchez, Orton, Cutler, Palmer, Hasselbeck, Ryan, Cassel, or Stafford and I bet the Skins would stupidly take any of those humps over JC. Dump Randel El and Portis (hopefully an uncapped year) and trade Cooley and Moss for two 2nd rounders and maybe a 4th and a 5th. Trade the 2nd round picks you have to get positioned in the first round to get two of the top three OTs in the draft. Draft a couple big, young, fast, RBs that don’t fumble in the middle rounds and hope that one of them and Thomas, Kelly, Davis, and Mitchell pan out. Done.

Posted by: Jon_Hillis | December 17, 2009 4:15 PM
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We will all have to wait and see. I honestly believe that it is a waste of time to rub any of your GM's magical crystal balls and predict the future. My suggestion....let's all shut up, and wait and see!

Posted by: geraldhaywood | December 17, 2009 4:14 PM
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You had me until you said Snyder would never hire a nobody like Gibbs. Gibbs was the hotshot flavor-of-the-month when he was hired; not exactly a nobody. A true nobody would be a buried and forgotten assistant coach who is on nobody's list of all-time great players---say someone like Jim Zorn perhaps. Snyder's hired the famous and unfamous, but you're right, the real problem is how much control Snyder exerts regardless of who's coach.

Posted by: ShovelPlease | December 17, 2009 4:13 PM
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"Wilbon's World" is the perfect name for your column. I try to like you, but most of what you came up with here is ridiculous. You truly are in your own little world.

Posted by: Club33 | December 17, 2009 4:13 PM
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Mike - thanks so much for the incisive analysis and your amazing feel for fan sentiment.

Oh, and keep talking hockey please, you blathering idiot.

Posted by: wtf_is_going_on | December 17, 2009 4:11 PM
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always amused by people who profess hatred for wilbon (or other columists) work, yet continue to read him. if you dont like his writing, dont read him. and if you do read him, dont be surprised if you dont like his point of view.

in this case, he is correct. means nothing if danny is still involved. i'm happy about the hire. i think it is important to bring in someone who has a history with this organization. not at the expense of competence, but i've not read anywhere that allen is not a good gm. he needs to set a tone. he needs to hire good football people and set the organiztion on the right path.

hopefully he is smart enough to know how to build a successful franchise and wont be dannys stooge. we wont know that for a while. and on that point, wilbon is exactly right.

but wilbon is wrong to classify redskins fans as "easy". we are giddy about vinny leaving as it signals that perhaps danny is doing what we all (including wilbon) hoped he would do. for sure. however, we know this just step one in the process. dont confuse our excitement over today's events for complete happines with everything that is going on in ashburn.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | December 17, 2009 4:11 PM
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While I would tend to agree with a ranting angry male just for the sake of peace, I do believe that for a long time now both you(Mike) and Mr. Tony have long since distanced yourselves from the true pulse of the washington D.C. area sports fan. Your passion or lack there of is tied into dollar signs and not what truley matters in this area...viable, competent teams.

Posted by: geraldhaywood | December 17, 2009 4:09 PM
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Mr. Wilbon, if these fools in Washington want you out, please, PLEASE come to Minneapolis, where we are in deperate need of a decent sports commentator.

Posted by: minnesotacharm | December 17, 2009 4:05 PM
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Wilbon has more insight and has forgotten more about football than many of the yahoos posting here will ever know. This harkening back to names from the past to lead into the future is just crap. Was any OTHER team pursuing Allen ? Was his name on ANYBODY's lips? Any buzz about him? No, The Danny wants things to be like when he was a little boy and the Redskins were both good and respected. Let's wait to see how Danny acts /changes and how Allen performs before everyone gets giddy about "the Change" The ONLY thing that has changed for the better so far is that the low class, no talent yes man is gone. That's it, nothing more than that. Wilbon is far from perfect, as is everyone else posting here, (see Tiger columns), but he has far greater and far less subjective views on the Redskins than you other dopes.Sheeesh.

Posted by: jmsbh | December 17, 2009 4:01 PM
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You know, if some of you really dislike Wilbon and really want to see him gone from the Post, you'd be better off avoiding his posts altogether instead of ranting on them.

As the business goes, nobody cares whether you agree with him, disagree with him, think he's a genius or think he's an idiot. All that matters are the clicks.

Posted by: js_edit | December 17, 2009 4:00 PM
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Typical snide, arrogant, misinformed, "stick in the eye" Wilbon style.....

No one cares about the Allen connection except for you and your media buddies who have to fill airtime.

Why don't you get back to your roots and write an article about how you're conviced the Redskins subverted the Rooney rule?

Posted by: yampaco | December 17, 2009 3:57 PM
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Wilbon,

What you continually do is miss the point. The reason why the Skins Fans continue to have hope when a change like today is made.... The point is pal, these damn fans, myself included LOVE their team.
Yet, you obviously dont care about that FACT enough to understand that when you dis-credit these fans and their LOVE, the same fans that for almost 30 YEARS have followed your every written word, and help put you and your beautiful family in the position you are in today, you are dis-owning YOUR base pal.

I agree with the other commenters; take your show to Chi town, or New York or wherever it is you want to go. Just leave.

We are tired of your schtick.

Get. Out.

Posted by: gipped1984 | December 17, 2009 3:55 PM
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It is just another column of what has sadly become typical Wilbon - drive by opinon making while on his way to a TV gig or dinner with one of his player buddies. A totally shallow analysis larded with cheap shots at Washington fans. Sad, I used to respect him.

Posted by: David90 | December 17, 2009 3:54 PM
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Well done.
I completely agree with all Wilbon's points.
Let's focus on talent that yields results and stop the control-freak owner from micro-managing the team.

Posted by: BallstonianFromBirth | December 17, 2009 3:53 PM
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First point - Marty would've been successful if he had another year or two here. Secondly - Snyder actually said it best in the press conference by saying Allen's link to the Skins tradition is merely "a bonus." Look at the resume. Allen is clearly an upgrade over Vinny. Anything is an upgrade. And so what if we bring in Gruden or Shanahan? Super Bowl coaches are also clearly an upgrade over Zorn. Zorn isn't going to grow into a Gibbs. Remember Gibbs at least had experience as a coordinator before becoming a head coach.

Posted by: JS12 | December 17, 2009 3:52 PM
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"he'd never hire a 39-yard-old assistant" - Wilbon

Well, Zorn isn't 39 but he was an assistant and as you can see, that didn't work. Hopefully Snyder doesn't make that mistake again. I'd rather go after someone with a pretty good track record than try another 2-3 experiment on a young unproven assistant!

Posted by: mburns134 | December 17, 2009 3:51 PM
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Let us enjoy a small bit of joy for the holiday season Wilbon! As I'm sure you've done, even for a minute, when YOUR Bears make changes that appear to be going in the right direction (ie: Cutler, the QB of the future). No football fan base is perfect.

Posted by: JBuss | December 17, 2009 3:50 PM
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Maybe the media vacuum that Wilbon lives in is driving this angle? This isn't PTI Mike....get real!

I haven't heard one Skins fan talking about how great it is to have a link to the past. I have heard Skins fans rejoicing that Cerrato is gone and a professional GM has been hired.

Posted by: jahs4fun | December 17, 2009 3:48 PM
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Anybody care to look at the current state of Tampa Bay? I believe this is an Allen/Gruden creation.

Wilbon, must you subject us to your on-the-job training to become a fictional novel writer, similar to the path taken by so many of your writing buddies?

Posted by: ARCstats | December 17, 2009 3:44 PM
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Great insight, as always. With Snyder as the owner, the proof has to be in the pudding, not in the headlines. I'm tired of the Redskins "winning" the offseason only be be miserable to watch on the football field.

Posted by: DCTom1 | December 17, 2009 3:44 PM
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Use every opportunity to take a swipe at the fans in this area. PLEASE LEAVE TOWN. I'm sick of your arrogance. ....

Posted by: BelleHaven | December 17, 2009 1:56 PM
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* * * * *

I though Wilbon lived in AZ.

Posted by: Cossackathon | December 17, 2009 3:43 PM
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Wilbon,

Aren't you the same guy who basically opinionated immediately after the death of Sean Taylor that it was a symptom of his "thug" image and lifestyle? And when it came to light that it was nothing of the sort, aren't you the same guy who never retracted such foolishness as you wrote; nor openly apologized to the Taylor family?

And yet you want us to take what you have to say seriously?

Yeah, okay.

Posted by: Tymmel44 | December 17, 2009 3:43 PM
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Wilbon....I hope you read the comments...Please do us a favor and SHUT-UP!!!! Us Redskins fans don't care about your opinion! This is a great day, Vinny is gone and we have brought in someone in Mr. Allen who understands our Redskins history! I really wish you would go cover your Bears and worry about fixing their team.....but you won't say anything bad about Lovie Smith at all...I wonder why????....I bet I know why.....

Posted by: jcrabbe1 | December 17, 2009 3:43 PM
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Amen Wilbon. If Snyder continues his meddling ways the hiring of Allen is nothing more than meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Posted by: kmp1 | December 17, 2009 3:41 PM
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"Snyder making business decisions is golden; look at his bottom line."

Really? I'm not sure he's pulled off a big deal since he managed to buy the Redskins basically with a sub-prime mortgage. Remember his grand plans to create a media-entertainment empire that would rival Disney? Last I heard Six Flags (a linchpin in this scheme) were selling for pennies. And the longer the Deadskins stink up the place, the more stories there are going to be on the dismal fan experience at FedEx Field.

Posted by: Cossackathon | December 17, 2009 3:40 PM
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"Snyder doesn't hire nobody's?" --> Jim Zorn

Posted by: jtheisman | December 17, 2009 3:38 PM
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Mikee needs to go with Vinny. The Post should have kept Angus and flushed Wilbon....what a bad decision.

Posted by: GMorg11 | December 17, 2009 3:38 PM
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Wilbon is correct in that the proof of the pudding is in the eating. We will only know what Allen's role truly is a year from now after free agency and the next draft and on into the summer.

At the same time his Chicago bias is always on display.

He mentions the Bears and Seahawks as franchises with more success than Washington.

Chicago? OK, in the past 20 years they have made it to ONE Super Bowl and lost it by 12 points to the Colts.

How are they now? Jay Cutler has a worse quarterback rating than Jason Campbell and Matt Forte looks as slow as Clinton Portis despite being just 24.

Chicago is a dog team right now. And has been for much of the time since the '80s squad was broken up.

Yet, in Chicago that 1985 team carries more parallels for fans in comparisons than Redskins fans make to Allen and Gibbs.

I guess Wilbon deep down is insecure because his team, the Bears, are a one trick pony in re the Super Bowl.

Posted by: leopard09 | December 17, 2009 3:37 PM
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when will wilbon resign? that would bring happiness to the readers. perhaps he can join his narcissistic buddy kornheiser on the radio. they have done enough to make television unwatchable.

Posted by: jwzephyr | December 17, 2009 3:36 PM
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Wilbon you get worse and worse with each passing column. You suck worse now than ever. You take every opportunity to turn a positive in to a negative while simultaneously taking a swipe and whomever you choose for each particular article.

Go away. And if you don't go away, have another heart attack like you did a few years back.

Posted by: jive_turkey | December 17, 2009 3:36 PM
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Wow, I posted that without even reading the other comments. lol. Wilbon makes something up in his head then slams people as if it's reality.

Posted by: themantoyou | December 17, 2009 3:30 PM
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No one cares he is George Allen's son but the media. I love how they declare what people think, then label the people "easy" for thinking it.

Posted by: themantoyou | December 17, 2009 3:27 PM
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Snyder may fall in and out of love with QBs quickly, but this year, when JC was struggling every game, he remained the starter. Pulled briefly for one game. I'm surprised Snyder didn't demand that Collins start. That's what I would have expected. (Not trying to defend DS, but it's a point worth making.)

Posted by: fan-o-matic | December 17, 2009 3:16 PM
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Wilbon please shut up already Nobody cares about your opinion.

Posted by: peterkapt | December 17, 2009 3:15 PM
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Wilbon you suck! Shut up already

Posted by: peterkapt | December 17, 2009 3:12 PM
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I was elated to see Vinny gone, but at the same time, I was hesitant because no one said "Allen makes all the football decisions." Now it seems Snyder said that when introducing Allen, but again, I have to see to believe. Snyder's perfectly able to make suggestions to Allen, as long as Allen is perfectly able to ignore them.

Yeah, I was on the "Gibbs is back, we're saved!" bandwagon, but after Snyder helped neuter what he could do, I'm wary until I see it for sure. Want to prove the sincerity? Draft a lineman in the first round, OR trade down to get more picks and draft multiple linemen. Address team needs, even if Thomas and Davis have looked good (Orakpo was a need and a good pick, can't fault Vinny there, but after him we needed O-line help).

Posted by: kmcandrew | December 17, 2009 3:10 PM
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Come one Wilbon! No one I have talked to that is a Redskins fan is applauding the fact that Bruce is George Allen's son. We could care less. Everyone I've talked to is happy for the change, but we're holding off on judgment until around this time next season. Talk to a couple fans in the area before you say things like "Allen is the son of former Redskins Coach George Allen, the first coach to take the team to the Super Bowl, and folks are getting all hot-chocolate-by-the-fireplace." We can care less about that. If we did we'd watch re-runs of the "glory days" instead of suffering through the games this year. Give me a break!

Posted by: Burg_gold_blood | December 17, 2009 3:02 PM
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Mike, you continue to loose credibility in D.C. with your needless shots at the Redskin Fans. Why make such generalizations about what 'skins fans must be feeling? This all just happened today, so of course everyone is happy about purging ourselves from the demon Cerrato. C'mon man.

Posted by: ralston21 | December 17, 2009 2:49 PM
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Wilbon's got a great point. I remember getting all giddy over Joe Gibbs 2.0. I won't be wasting similar sentiment on this hire. But I'm going to sit back and see how it all shakes out.

Yes, Allen is a huge upgrade from Vinny, but if Snyder refuses to keep his nose out of the personnel decisions, then there's not much Allen or anyone else can do to improve the team.

It's a good start, but it's just a start. We'll see where it goes.

Posted by: js_edit | December 17, 2009 2:49 PM
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Can Vinny work for cowboys?..
team destroyer.!

Posted by: skwak2 | December 17, 2009 2:46 PM
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wilbon,

i agree with everyone here, the DC hate has gone far enough. you're really going to look down your nose at this city from your lofty national perch when this is where you got your start? for the record, i dont think anyone here is stupid enough to think we will win because it is an "allen". we think we will win because our organization HOPEFULLY will now function like a real one should. so we have HOPE.

guess you're just too good for us now.

oh and i was watching PTI last night - if youre going to talk hockey, please learn aboyt the sport first. boarding, spearing, and all of that nonsense you spoke of that is illegal in the Olympics...yea, thats illegal in the NHL too. but maybe you were talking about checking and just dont quite know what that is. who knows.

just stop writing here. you used us as your springboard, now go have fun on the national stage where you can write like a snob and look down on the dc area. we're fine with our writers now.

Posted by: dkitsou | December 17, 2009 2:36 PM
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Leave it to Mike Wilbon to slam DC fans over pure speculation.

Wilbon, your Bears are the second most laughable franchise in the league, second only to the Redskins. When will you fall off your high horse Mike?

I liked you so much better when you were relatable. You would have to be a millionaire to relate to you now. We don't know your world Mike. We don't care who you have to please and who you care less about because of your social and greedy ties.

Everyone sees right through you. From your Advert for AI to your slamming of the Redskins fans. You are a man of personal vendettas and can easily be bought with some access to a nice interview or court side seats.

Posted by: WhoSays | December 17, 2009 2:35 PM
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It doesn't make a rat's anal orifice to me wheter he's George Allen's son or Woody Allen's son - he's a proven NFL front office GM.

I think you're making much ado about nothing by accusing Redskins fans of looking back to the past and being excited because Bruce Allen is George Allen's son. It's merely a fact of the story, not the meat of the story.

Posted by: SkinsKen | December 17, 2009 2:34 PM
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"It's amazing how easy Redskins fans have become"

Stop speaking as if all Redskins fans are facile thinkers just because some you've encountered are. Generalizations are for simpletons, and its not the first time I've noticed you belittle the football acumen of the Redskins fan base. You can really be arrogant. How the hell do you know what a thinking fan thinks?

Posted by: DironTalbert | December 17, 2009 2:30 PM
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so racist Wilbon is at it again. Whats the matter? Mad at the redskins for not taking a black GM? I mean really?

Posted by: barrysmith1 | December 17, 2009 2:29 PM
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As Chad Ochocinco would say, "Child, please."
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Wilbon, You lose all credibilty with me if you're quoting Oucho Psycho for any reason other than to re-enforce the ridiculous nature of his diluded personna.

Posted by: SkinsKen | December 17, 2009 2:28 PM
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To MSBMSB

When referring to Spurrier, Hindsight is always 50/50!!!

Posted by: nwdodson | December 17, 2009 2:25 PM
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Mike,

A small nit to pick... you keep saying Snyder would never pick a guy like Gibbs was in 1980 - a "nobody" coordinator. That he only like stars.

While I generally agree, wasn't Zorn basically that guy? A young, unproven, but highly regarded coordinator?

While Snyder may not have made all the best decisions over the years, it's pretty clear to me that he's willing to learn - and change to some extent.

When he was being accused of being too hands-on with Norv, he hired Marty and let him run the show. When that didn't work out, he went and got the guy that everybody wanted but couldn't get: The old ball coach. But he got him. It didn't work out that well... but hindsight is 20/20.

When Spurrier quit, Snyder got the another "ungettable" coach... Gibbs! Again, you can criticize his decisions, but you can't criticize his desire. Personally, I loved every coaching hire he made *at the time*.

It's hard to criticize the Allen hire. Isn't this basically what everybody (including myself) has been telling him to do? Get rid of Vinny and hire a real "football" guy? A legit GM? Isn't that what Allen is?

Posted by: MSBMSB | December 17, 2009 2:21 PM
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Wilbon,

You have checked out of Washington! We are okay with that. I could care less that he is George Allen's son other than the fact that he has some insight to the fans' heartache over the last 20+ years. Vinny didn't care! Danny?
Whomever the coach is going to be and whomever is making the calls on players will determine the franchise. At least for now we have HOPE! Yesterday there was none.

Posted by: nwdodson | December 17, 2009 2:17 PM
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I can never tell exactly where Wilbon falls in the blue end of the spectrum of realists, pessimists, cynics, or just plain haters. The Skins have to take some of the blame for routinely punishing optimists. We'll see what Allen brings (and cuts loose!) from the Redskins, though. Fellow fans, beware of the hype monster, but also rejoice! Cerrato is gone!

Posted by: seth_malaguerra | December 17, 2009 2:13 PM
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always brings up chicago despite the fact they blow every bit as bad as the skins. but hey, they lost a super bowl a few years back and got a franchise qb who throws 4 picks per game.

Posted by: tug79boat | December 17, 2009 2:12 PM
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Zorn wasn't famous, and Snyder hired him.

Wilbon, you'd criticize Mother Teresa for not doing enough. OF COURSE we have to wait and see what happens, no kidding, Scoop. But wouldn't you say the odds that things will change are better now with a new GM than they were with Vinny? As OchoCinco might say, "Child, please." I don't know if Allen is the best choice -- I'd prefer Holmgren -- but I'll take it.

Posted by: RIP-21 | December 17, 2009 2:06 PM
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Mike is right and here's why:

Allen: VP of operations and GM

I noticed that immediately. Why not "President?"

That alone tells me Snyder is going to make all of the final decisions. I hope what Mike says is true and Allen has final say in things.

Couldn't be any worse however, Cerrato is a weasle and nothing more. Not only is he bad GM but he is a despicable human being.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | December 17, 2009 2:03 PM
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Use every opportunity to take a swipe at the fans in this area. PLEASE LEAVE TOWN. I'm sick of your arrogance.

Hate when we look back and admire? Stop looking at other towns and admiring. Steelers fans at a Denver MNF game would never happen, right?

Please pick up and leave. We're better off with Boswell, Jenkins, and Wise.

Posted by: BelleHaven | December 17, 2009 1:56 PM
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I am just happy that Vinny is gone. Yes all is not yet fixed - but there has to be a first step.

Posted by: BrokenClipboard | December 17, 2009 1:53 PM
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